New Jumps at Bury Metro
 

has anyone tryed the new jumps yet?
just been down for a practice, found the big jump alot better now..big improvement..the other obstacles are very tricky!

is there any pics of the new jumps

yeah, the big jump is alot better than it was. alot of people though are finding it hard to get it right:confused: but i just find it great. ive tried the triple, which is okay, but not the best.

is any1 at bury on sunday??

Me, Vermin, Tom and i think Ben are going.

It's ok, but im not the biggest fan. I prefer obstacles that dont cause random behaviour to the car. If you are a club memeber and race there week in week out then you will inevitably master it, for the others then they will just get frustrated.

The first jump isnt as bad as it was, but still a little random every now and then. The tripple is a tricky little bugger. Standing on ground level near the jump you can see the line to take, but even then it gets a little random at times.

Overall its a great track, but i think you might hear a few moans and groans about the new features come the national

I have to aggree Wayne, it does need practice, I suspect there will be some moans.

I went down there a couple of weeks ago on a friday afternoon and just ran over, and over, and over the jumps, for me personally it's now fine.

I'd not have liked to have turned up for the national without being able to practice berfore however, I think I'd have been one of the moaners.

I'll be hovering around the new areas this summer with the camera, should get some good crash pictures. :)

i'll be there on sunday, im looking forward to it.

what are people running 2/4?

I'm not sure what to run yet, maybe 4WD?

2, but maybe have a lil go with the 4.

wayne. i ran my car less than a meeting, maybe 2 races and i had mastered it. its strange cos so many people have different views. it made a huge difference where i was standing on the rostrum though, lol. what do others think about it??

ill be running 2wd.

i dont think lil ben is going as he cant get a lift. unless you lot are takin him neil??

2wd with a odd 4wd run may be

What I find amazing is that some people go to Bury Metro during the week, I know now how my fence is getting damaged. It is really easy if you all ask me or Dad to come down as we live 2 mins away with a key so no body damages my fence.
Regards the jumps, I was told to change due to a certain person went to the BRCA and put a conplaint in regarding that you could jump the fence if you really wanted to. Big question to him, what about the bank at the end of the straight, the big banked corner????
What about other tracks? Kiddy etc.
My club has spent alot of time and effort keeping this track going, where is the respect. Should of come to the club first and made your coments aired there.
Thats it rant over. Please Please when you go down to the track ask first and we can get a key to you.

I think the jump at the back is really good now Stu, it can be taken fast as a proper double or slower (ie like me), landing on the 'table-top' and hopping down. I'm not saying there are non but I have not spoken to a local driver who does not think it's now sorted.

The safety issue, well, you are right - we've seen cars jump the fence at the end of the straight next to the ex-jym, it's potentially a faster and more dangerous spot than the start of the back straight, allthough it's not a place that people generally stand to spectate.

The fence - point taken on board.
It has to be said though that I can jump (thats me with legs, not car) over it with tranny in hand, I suspect it's the scrotes with BMX's and paint cans that do the damage.

Can someone take some pictures of the newly sculputured additions and post them on here please.
Thanks

Pictures will not help much Brian, you'll see the differernce when you run a car over it.

The up-slope is more consistant and the second hump is now a broad table top, so it's not do-or-die.

There are also three small jumps just before the astro banking, they are well spaced to make it a single & double, or it can be three singles.

I will be running the 2wd to see if the setup from sunday at southport will work.:)

Well the only way not to get random behaviour is by racing on a flat track with wooden boards as ramps. Batley has random behaviour, as does Kidderminster and Southport certainly does more than most but this doesn't make them bad tracks, far from it infact.... you are aware this is off-road right? :D

Don't have to be a club member to come regular ;) , but it doesn't take weeks to learn the features - shouldn't take more than a few practice laps really.... If you feel an advantage is to be had by practicing, you are correct, but same goes for any track does it not? Wayne - come and practice! ;)

I have run only about 3 packs of cells around Bury with the new features, and find all the features great fun to get right, do-able with some effort (easy is boring afterall) and do-able accross the broad section where the racing line should be - also off-line too, but if off-line then chances are its for a reason (mistake) and so shouldn't be carrying any speed to launch off a ramp into randomness anyway.

As for safety... well, like Woody said... there are mountains and there are mole hills, lets not confuse them.

I'll be at Bury on Sunday, looking like I'll be racing ..... well, I can't make my mind up, Ive just changed it 3 times while typing this!!!! One thing for sure is that it won't be both cars.

Woody, are you doing 2wd? if so I'll do the same.

The new jumps have added fresh interest to an already excellent track. The club has spent considerable money, time and effort in an attempt to freshen things up, and my advice is come up and try the new features for yourselves.

The double / table top after the block paved horse-shoe is much more driver friendly now, although it can still catch you out. The triple at the end of the back straight is a challenge - the quick line over them will vary depending on which track layout is chosen immediately after them (obviously :rolleyes: ). Danny McGee was making them look very easy at the last meeting.

forecast rain on sunday, gay.

I know, I heard that too, but I am refusing to beleive it.... I may still go anyway, who's to say the national is going to be a scorcher like in 2005.

The new jumps make the track interesting. I Personally like them. Yes im a newbie driver and i get them wrong more than i get them right, but when i get them right it feels good and lap times are good.

The good drivers like Danny McGee, WoOdy and Chris Long are AWESOME over the jumps, and make them look a doddle.

i raced at southport on sunday for the first time and the back straight was very erratic, give me a decent double any day. But the rest of the track was consitant and a very good track for "racing" rather than Krypton factor obstacle course.

Each tracks has its good and bad points and thats what makes them different and keeps the sport interesting.

i think all english people moan about jumps!!!!

you moan when you dont have them....and wen you do have them you moan also!!!

this annoys me with my track.

people have begged and pleeded over al lthe forums, we want jumps, this that etc!!

finally you get what you ask for and then moan about it....

a flat grass track is about as boring as it gets, one pants wooden jump wont change that!

everyone i kno at racing wants to race in america....why?????

for the JUMPS!

people find my track an obstacle course, or so they say...my track has the most consistent jumps ever, you will struggle to find a more consistent track, and yet people still like to have a moan.

Woody, ignore it...its stupid...build the track how you want...you will never make everyone happy...fact of life.

the rest of you who dont like it...a little advice................

if you cant do it...............dont! until you have time to practice and get it right...when you can do it, u will start to appreciate what has been done..theres nothing better than someone with good car control, whether it be airborn or not....

rant over.

bloody well said lee and woody couldnt agree more. wana race on safe tracks go race bouring cars,

people seem to be getting angry!! :o

At the end of the day, the new feature is difficult. People are expressing their opinions. Some will like it, some wont. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

I hope most people will judge for themselves, and not be influenced by other people.

And what we mustned forget, Bury is a good track, a very good track run by good people.

If you like jumps come to sweden =)
http://forum.skarpnack.nu/viewtopic.php?id=1669
http://forum.skarpnack.nu/viewtopic.php?id=1553

Our new out door track will have som good ones to!

Just remember Mike,

You'll do better over 5 mins if you don't go-for-gold each time. If you crash on 1 lap you may well loose more time than if you take it steady on all the laps.

The back section at Southport is a good comaprison, if you are too fast for yourself if does get erratic, all you have to do is lay off the spuds a bit and it's fine.

I'm taking Vermin with me i'd guess Tom will give him a lift.

As for the tracks, i've raced at Southport just the once, and i love it, the back section is awesome a real challenge. I really like racing at Bury as well and i'm looking forward to trying the new sections out and making a real hash of them.

We should give our thanks and support to all the people who build and maintain the tracks we race on because without them we'd be screwed.

gimme somewhere to stay and i will!

remeber wtaching a video of this and i love it!

that is awsome... paul we want that for the next indoor gp!!!

well we ran on the new OBSTACLES this weekend the double on the fare side of the track is ace now well done guys, love it.
But and its a big but, the triple is a right royal pain, now i love offroad and obstacles. but it so random and hard to get right even at a crawl it beaches the car, it really needs smoothing out so its bigger and has a nice approach ramp, its just to steep and to small and the same goes fore the landing step/ ramp.
sorry if it seems like a bit of a rant but, it really needs working on badly

have to agree.. the gaps in between the jumps are too big to double because there isnt enough speed for take-off..unless 4wd.
saw a good few snappages today.

i have to completely dissagree with yoo carl, i thought they were good. they took a bit of getting used to, but they werent as hard as last time.

the double/table top on the top left is ACE, i love it. but the tripples a little need work to be 100% spot on, in the wet it was hit or miss if you could clear them or not.. ussually not, but in the dry they were do-able.

They just need smoothing out, and the second one along moving closer, or the first one moving away.

great day today, it was enjoyable non the less.

Strangley enough when I went last time I didn't crash once on the tripples..... wonder why...... :confused:

G

Any photos of the jumps/track?

I think it would be far more constructive IF the views on the new track features came ONLY from racers, and not fathers or mechanics, only then can the club gauge whether or not work needs to be done.
After experiencing this first hand, spending nearly 2 days getting the ground ready, laying a track out for a regional, only for a few fathers/mechanics to do nothing but critasise the hard work, you and the rest of the host club, put towards trying to create a good track and meeting.

Ye I agree Brian.

true Brian, but that is the view of the driver and the mechanic and about 10 other drivers that were there,
they do need work and could become fantastic, with very little effort and time
they are just a little to short and sharp,