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jimmy 25-11-2009 09:24 AM

FOR SALE SECTION FEEDBACK
 
Hey guys - we changed the way the FOR SALE section works a while back to stop people replying (and therefore bumping) to threads, keeping things to PM only. This makes it a whole load easier for us and stops bumping and other issues like arguments or irrelevent posts.

I've had many many emails asking why people have been banned etc - when in fact they didn't realise the change had happened and that's the reason they can't post.

So, what do people think of the way the FOR SALE section is now - not being able to bump / reply. Does it work or does it need changing back....?

Have a vote :thumbsup:

bigred5765 25-11-2009 11:02 AM

keep it as it is now, so uncluttered looks way better,

rcracer 25-11-2009 11:14 AM

I would like to see the wanted section the same.

Body Paint 25-11-2009 11:27 AM

I can see the pros and cons both ways, may I suggest try it for a few weeks and then have another vote?

David Church 25-11-2009 11:31 AM

This new way works well!!!:thumbsup:

super__dan 25-11-2009 12:08 PM

It's miles better!

Jamie.T 25-11-2009 12:10 PM

The new system works well i think as it stops people spamming on the thread.

Only 1 point is that people need to update their for sale thread when items are sold. I only say this as ive contacted sellers only to be told its been sold and they havent updated the thread.

Jamie.....

Jamie B4 25-11-2009 12:39 PM

Agree
 
Totally agree with previous comment - very frustrating.

Keep getting contacted as i can not update my items forsale - preferred when we could add comments, drop prices etc

dave g 25-11-2009 12:41 PM

pretty sure you can edit your post tho..

burgie 25-11-2009 12:50 PM

Keep it as it is - but automatically delete all posts older than 30 days......

Dazzler 25-11-2009 12:59 PM

As is, but with the additional pre-requisite, that a photograph of the item being sold is added.

Can the trade part of the forum work slightly different to the main part, i.e, reply posts do not bump the initial post?

Big G 25-11-2009 01:13 PM

mandatory prices! not "offers" when you want top money for things.

rcracer 25-11-2009 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazzler (Post 314513)
As is, but with the additional pre-requisite, that a photograph of the item being sold is added.

Can the trade part of the forum work slightly different to the main part, i.e, reply posts do not bump the initial post?

you would get people dropping prices by a £1 or saying "oh i forgot it as a extra wheel with it" just to bump it up :lol:

Dazzler 25-11-2009 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcracer (Post 314521)
you would get people dropping prices by a £1 or saying "oh i forgot it as a extra wheel with it" just to bump it up :lol:


I think you're misunderstanding - Once the original post is made, the point at which it goes on the list is where it stays, it doesn't bump regardles of further posts or ammendments.

As you suggest, I could if I wished, post, then create a new post with an amendment an hour or so later to effectively bump my add. That is not what I was suggesting...

jimmy 25-11-2009 01:49 PM

I can set the default view of that forum to show latest threads - instead of, as it does now, threads with the newest posts. Though people would still be able to change it if they wanted to on their options.

Mike Hudson 25-11-2009 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 314541)
I can set the default view of that forum to show latest threads - instead of, as it does now, threads with the newest posts. Though people would still be able to change it if they wanted to on their options.

That sounds like best idea in my opinion, best of both worlds :thumbsup:

Dazzler 25-11-2009 02:07 PM

Jimmy seems to have come good with the correct terminology.... That's exactly what I was suggesting :thumbsup: Obviously it won't stop people posting irrelevant stuff, but would be a good compromise in my opinion.

Jamie.T 25-11-2009 02:07 PM

Ye, awesome idea. Im all for that.

Jamie.....

rcracer 25-11-2009 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazzler (Post 314538)
I think you're misunderstanding - Once the original post is made, the point at which it goes on the list is where it stays, it doesn't bump regardles of further posts or ammendments.

As you suggest, I could if I wished, post, then create a new post with an amendment an hour or so later to effectively bump my add. That is not what I was suggesting...

oh yeah sorry fella i wasnt reading it properly (stampy moment) :blush:

bigred5765 25-11-2009 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcracer (Post 314558)
oh yeah sorry fella i wasnt reading it properly (stampy moment) :blush:

lol and there in coining a new word (doin a stampy):thumbsup:

Big G 25-11-2009 04:59 PM

I don't mind how it is now with the no replies, but it is annoying to PM about something when it sold ages ago.

Sellers please update your adverts once a deal has been made :thumbsup:

stox217 25-11-2009 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big G (Post 314604)
I don't mind how it is now with the no replies, but it is annoying to PM about something when it sold ages ago.

Sellers please update your adverts once a deal has been made :thumbsup:

Had the same problem.
Got a few come back as to "its been sold ages ago"
But still its advertised as if its still for sale.

Chequered Flag Racing 25-11-2009 05:55 PM

Keep it as is - no replies to threads

and do the following.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 314541)
I can set the default view of that forum to show latest threads - instead of, as it does now, threads with the newest posts. Though people would still be able to change it if they wanted to on their options.

also look into deleting posts after 30 days as mentioned in this thread somewhere

tymill 25-11-2009 06:53 PM

I really liked having the replies visible, as many would shed additional light on the items for sale. e.g. someone might ask a specific question about it, and the answer would be posted there for everyone to see.

As it is now, that question might be sent to the seller in a PM, but the reply would only be known to the PMer in a PM reply. However, that question is likely to be something that lots of people want to know...

Sure, people can theoretically edit their posts, but I'm not sure eveyrone knows how to do that (as evidenced by all the items "for sale" that are actually long since sold), and besides, it's much more interesting to see what questions people have actually posted.

That's my two cents....

So yeah - I think Jimmy's suggestion is the best way to go. Stops the bumpage, but still allows questions to be answered publicly.:thumbsup:

welsh man 29-12-2009 12:27 PM

i can see the advantages and disadvantages keep it how it is

dibble34 29-12-2009 03:25 PM

I think i liked the old way best. As someone already mentioned questions may already be answered in the thread. Also sometimes the more experienced people point things out that are wrong to stop people like me getting ripped off!. I expect this is mentioned elsewhere, but i do think traders should be made to state they are traders in every new thread they put in the for sale section, as your rights as a consumer are different

Garry 01-05-2010 11:49 AM

Grrr, was looking at the sales section just now and I think I've snapped. Why do sme people think that selling a car is like playing a game of Guess Who?

For example, here's a typical advert that could have come from the past year on here (details changed to protect the innoccent...or stupid):

Quote:

For Sale

Associated B4

good condition

ask for pics

thanx
fred.

Can anyone point out what was wrong with that advert? I was under the impression that if you're trying to sell something, you've got to make it as attractive as possible to get someone to bite the hook?

For a start, put more details in. Is the car stock? If not, what upgrades does it have? How old is it? etc etc.

Then, putting ''good condition'' means nothing if there's no pics. I've seen stuff described as good, someone's bought it, and its turned out to be an absolute dog. Something that could have been avoided with an honest description, and images. And why put ''ask for pics'' or ''pics on request''? Who on Earth has ever bought something without seeing it? If you have pics, get off your lazy 4rse, plug the camera cable in, and upload to Photobucket!!!

Finally, its not ebay, its not Cluedo, or Guess Who. Put a price up FFS! You know exactly what its worth, so why play games? Why beat around the bush?

To me, anyone who can't be bothered to list something properly, do research to get a price, or even take a photograph of the items....aren't going to get my business. And thats mainly because I don't want to get ripped off by someone else.

I know this sounds like a rant, but I'd hate to see others get ripped off either by shoddy adverts. RC Car Racing isn't a cheap hobby, £100 is a lot of money to lose if things are mis-sold or just badly put up. You're just wasting peoples time with cr4p adverts.

Consider this, when you're looking for your next road car, would you enquire if it said something along the lines of this?:

Quote:


Ford Focus

silver

get in touch

Mike
......and relax.... :thumbsup:

Jamie.T 01-05-2010 01:59 PM

Totally agree with the above statement. To quote Family guy's own Peter griffin "It grinds my gears".lol

Im also finding it annoying that now, instead of bumping people are simply creating a new for sale advert again. Now before anybody points out, yes i am subject to doing it myself whilst selling my x-6. Simply because "If you cant beat em, join em", and the fact that i put the car back to standard and dropped the car by £40.

I think id like to change my mind and say that id prefer the for sale section the way it was.

Jamie........

Rich D 01-05-2010 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thomj316 (Post 372677)
Totally agree with the above statement. To quote Family guy's own Peter griffin "It grinds my gears".lol

Im also finding it annoying that now, instead of bumping people are simply creating a new for sale advert again. Now before anybody points out, yes i am subject to doing it myself whilst selling my x-6. Simply because "If you cant beat em, join em", and the fact that i put the car back to standard and dropped the car by £40.

I think id like to change my mind and say that id prefer the for sale section the way it was.

Jamie........


Agree with what Garry has written.

You are supposed to create a new for sale thread after one week if your items havent sold. Thats how it works. It was changed as some people were bumping their for sale items three times a day.

Garry 28-05-2010 02:02 PM

*sigh*, its still happening.

''PM for pics'' or ''Pics on request''.

What are they trying to hide? Smells of big scammers.

stoff 28-05-2010 02:29 PM

It works very well. One suggestion however to the Feedback section; once a user has a poll created make the thread a sticky to make it easier to find and possibly put the threads in alphabetical order.

Chequered Flag Racing 28-05-2010 04:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by stoff (Post 381278)
possibly put the threads in alphabetical order.

you can do this yourself

click on thread in red circle to sort A to B

you'll then have to go through the pages to find who you are looking for or follow the video guide which is a sticky in the section
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=39285

Garry 03-08-2010 12:34 PM

http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=50935

No pics, no prices, no effort. The know what they stuff is worth (apparently), but they must want to play a guessing game.

Please make pics complusory, at the very least, Mr oOple.

dave g 03-08-2010 12:59 PM

no price or picture=deleted advert..simples :)

make me a mod of the sale section and i will happily press the delete button :)

Chequered Flag Racing 03-08-2010 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dave g (Post 400588)
no price or picture=deleted advert..simples :)

Do fellow o0plers want us to go that way?



Quote:

Originally Posted by dave g (Post 400588)
I will happily press the delete button :)

I can do that now :thumbsup:

I won't be popular if I do. Nothing new there then :lol:

dave g 03-08-2010 01:31 PM

lol

it wont bother me to delete the adverts lol.

just give people a warning saying that from such and such a date all adverts without prices and pictures will be removed.

its done on maxbashing and seems to work very well.

DCM 03-08-2010 01:38 PM

I must admit, someone posted about making it obligatory to post up a pic on every advert, and I wouldn't even mind seeing a date stamp or a piece of paper with the date in the pic, so we actually know the seller 'owns' the item, or has it to sell.

peetbee 03-08-2010 01:47 PM

Other forums insist on pictures and prices,
I'd be very happy for oople to go the same way :thumbsup:

Jamie.T 03-08-2010 04:34 PM

As Pete said, some forums insist on pictures and prices, and i personally think it works very well.

There seems to be far too many adverts on here lately where the seller wants you to play a guessing game. Highly annoying.

I say give the seller 20mins to add a picture and/or price or the advert gets deleted. Simples.

Col 03-08-2010 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing (Post 400598)
Do fellow o0plers want us to go that way?

Yes.

And a ban for all those like this poster who use oOple as a way of selling a quite frankly obscene amount of stuff and nothing else - ie oonly use the forsale section.


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