Red Racing- X-Ray 009 conversion
 

This is my X Ray conversion. Shame they've got the T3 out now as I'll have to modify it but oh well. Let me know what you think.

I dont race tourers bit this looks cool :thumbsup:

One thing i would say, Where your speedo overhangs the chassis, id be tempted to make a carbon fibre "C" shape thats bigger than the speedo so that takes any impacts rather than the speedo...

Good work though!!

how do the cells fit in, and do you reckon you could make one, for a TRF416 drivetrain?? As I think that looks sweet!

There's some tidy work in there bud. Looks a bit old school with the high belt mid motor, but there's nothing wrong with that! How have you gotten on with it?

I agree about the speedo. It was designed with the tekin in mind. V2 would have either speedo protection or an offset battery leaving all the electrics down one side.

Once I have decided that the principle works then I see no reason why this wouldn't work on a 416.

It is definitely a compromise to have a high layshaft. There is also a small amount of increased drag in the front belt. The trick is weather the pay offs out way the compromises. I am hoping to get some testing done very soon at Maritime Raceway. I have done 4 runs so far a few months ago(until I bent a steering part and had to get it made stronger!). It seemed very good but nothing conclusive yet.

Oh and the batteries on the prototype are pretty much built into the car. Only possible because of being able to use one set of lipos all night! I have looked at and designed a tray for the batteries to come in from the bottom(like TM E4). But I think offsetting them to the side is an easier option for the future.

the way I see it, setup might need to be a little different, but your not having to balance the car up, left to right, so weight should be less.

It was within 5g of perfect left to right and 1300g ready to run. 50g up front brought the balance to 49:51 front to back.

that sounds ideal to me, how much tighter does the front belt run, and is it possible to get a slightly longer main belt?

It's not that the belt is too tight it's just that it has to go round an extra bearing. The belt is already quite a lot longer than standard. 6 teeth I think.

ah, I see now, but then the Losi thing isn't exactly slow, not the TM, so the only issue I could see, is the belt flapping about a bit to much. Be interested to see some better pics.

Sorry about the quality.

It Still looks awesome Adam!:thumbsup:

Where did you source the longer front belt from? So far the longest belts I've found on any tourer are from the TC5 64/172 if memory serves... Working on a high layshaft project of my own but with saddles, the first incarnation worked quite well but there was far too much weight in the arse 46/54 which gave it alot of front end on corner entry.

I can't remember off hand. I'm away for a few days. I will look when I get home.

nice work!! it makes me want a pro3 again!!!! the good old days!!!!

Version 3 just about done.

What's the latest on this?

I haven't run it yet in the latest version. But I am hoping to lend it to a top driver to use at the STTC at Eastbourne next weekend.

Version 4 nearly ready.

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The project looks to have come on a long way, version 3 looks very tidy!

I was thinking about a TC design similar to this, but i don't have the ability to get any of it on to a computer and all my crayolas have all gone missing...anyway...

To keep the weight as central as possible have you thought about using LiPo saddle packs? You could butt these up together under the top deck right in front of the motor. If you place them west to east (as opposed to north to south - does that make sense??) on the chassis you would save a little room and should be able to get your electronics in.

This is what i would have loved to do, but time, money and capability are sadly all lacking :(

Did the STCC test go ahead? How did it go if you don't ind me asking?

Look forward to seeing more...

You mean a bit like this?

I decided that as the batteries weigh so little the speedo and servo on the opposite side would ballance just about as well. Coupled with the fact that TC boys are allergic to saddles!:)

Version 3 never got tested. But I am happier with V4 anyway. It will have more even flex. With the added ability to adjust back and front flex separately.

Kind of like that mate, but i would keep the motor where you have it on the current versions, but place the cells (in the orientation you have them on that screen shot) and place them right in front of the motor and under the top deck/belt.

The cells are a hell of a lot lighter than NiMh granted, but still weigh in at 280grams plus, if you could keep them central i think that would save you having to use ballast to balance the car on the electronics side - it could then be used to tune the car as the driver needed...and forget being allergic to saddles, if it works better the TC boys will soon convert :D

Thats just my opinion though mate, if you have it working well for you though thats all that counts!

How close are you to settling on a version for use? Are you looking to sell a conversion kit or is this just a project for yourself?

I figured if I was going to use saddle I would take advantage of being able to get the motor exactly in the middle of the car. As it is because the battery is right under the top deck it will get within 5-10g of left to right balance with no weight.

I would be happy to do a kit if people were interested. I need to see if it works first. So far I really like using it. Although I haven't been to the track for ages.

I will have this version ready for testing in a week or so.

Like this?

Sorry Adam,

I looked at your V3 picture harder and noticed that the cell was moved much more to the centre line of the car hence you only having to add 5 -10g to the leccy side.

Stick packs are predominatly used in TC so if you did go the conversion kit route it would make sense to stick to them.

Any more pictures ? looks good adam :thumbsup:

This looks really cool, any more progress with it?