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ch!3f 17-11-2009 10:35 PM

help choosing 1st 1/8th brushless buggy
 
hi guys im looking in to buying a rtr version and wanting a bit of help.

there are 2 cars in my price range a kyosho inferno ve or a caster fusion ex-1 and cant decide between them.

i know that kyosho have been round yours but they look around similar quality.

i wouldnt mind 1 some1 has converted from nitro but wanting in good condition and a good chassis too.

my budget is £380 can push another £70 for batts n charger so what do you guys recon?

thanks for having a look and hope some1 can point me in th right direction.:thumbsup:

BRS 18-11-2009 09:20 AM

I'm new to electric 1/8th having just bought a Caster truggy for my son for christmas.

I'd say if you only have £70 for batteries and a charger you might need to think again.

I've ordered from Hong Kong (cheapest place on net) £89 delivered for 2 x 7.4v lipos to power the Caster. Same cells are like double that price in the UK then add a decent charger £30 - £80 I'd say roughly..

ch!3f 18-11-2009 01:47 PM

cheers for the info ive decided to stick with what i know and go with a nitro for now as the club i want to goto runs both.prob end up converting it next your when got abit of money saved up.

JonyNitro 18-11-2009 02:15 PM

Hi am new too I would buy a second hand losi 2.0/ or Xray any model/ Hong Nor Cr, and convert any of these to leccy with the conversion kits, you will have enough money left over for a lipo, it will work out cheaper, thats my view, I bought the Losi 2.0 £170, conversion kit £55, work the rest out.cheers jon

ch!3f 18-11-2009 05:05 PM

might do guna get nitro 1st ive got a hong nor x1 cr all ready if no1 buys it considering converting that

JonyNitro 18-11-2009 08:53 PM

well it works out cheaper, so it only benefits your pocket, plus what set up combo you using and what lipo?

ch!3f 18-11-2009 09:47 PM

im not at minute will be sorting it out next year now

footey 19-11-2009 10:12 AM

just a word of warning the lipos from hong kong might not run the 8th cars as my dad bought some of them and they was rubbish really :(

Marvin 19-11-2009 04:43 PM

It does depend on what you buy! Sure, if you're only willing to spend peanuts on what should be ~1/3 of the value of the total car, then they aren't going to be any good. If you spend a 1/3 of your budget on batteries, the that'll serve you in the long run.

BRS 20-11-2009 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footey (Post 312252)
just a word of warning the lipos from hong kong might not run the 8th cars as my dad bought some of them and they was rubbish really :(


When I say I've ordered from HK I dont mean I ordered snide cells they are Intellect 7.4v 5000mah 40c just cost half the price than they do here. Seems to good to be true, we'll see if they ever arrive lol

Brooks 26-11-2009 12:09 PM

I bought the Intellect lipos form Hong Kong too. The 5000 mah 40C

They are awsome man in the Cat Sx.
Balanced first time
Half the price, well worth it

Take a few weeks but worth the wait :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

BRS 27-11-2009 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brooks (Post 314825)
I bought the Intellect lipos form Hong Kong too. The 5000 mah 40C

They are awsome man in the Cat Sx.
Balanced first time
Half the price, well worth it

Take a few weeks but worth the wait :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

The ones I ordered came in about 2 weeks from order not been used in anger yet as they're for a christmas present. Its criminal how much cheaper they were though, the profit on those should be going in a till in the UK....

Marvin 27-11-2009 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brooks (Post 314825)

Balanced first time

What do you mean balanced first time? They're going to balance if you have a balance charger aren't they!

lambchops 27-11-2009 03:22 PM

I also have bought a set of the zippy 5000 40C lipo's to try. Seems to be mixed feelings on them but for the money its worth a punt.. famous last words as MMM goes pop

Marvin 27-11-2009 03:25 PM

If they are looked after properly, 40C Zippys will be good. Very occassionally you get a duff cell from the factory, but considering the tiny amount you pay vs other 40C LiPos, it is worth it.

James 27-11-2009 03:25 PM

I have a Hot Bodies Ve8 and an X1CR converted with the RCProduct Designs Kit.

The Ve8 is a much better car to race, but the Hong Nor is really strong, its also very cheap and you can pick up second hand ones pretty cheap now.

Brooks 27-11-2009 04:26 PM

Great battery the Intellect :p

What i ment was by balanced was when i stuck the battery on the Core charger and balanced it. Both the cells balanced at 4.2v perfect for the first charge and still are.

Just saying there very good cells for the money :p

Marvin 27-11-2009 06:46 PM

Well, of course they will! The Core balances the pack as it is charged, and then finishes the process at the end of charging. If they aren't coming off at 4.2V/cell then your charger isn't doing its job correctly.

offroadrc 27-11-2009 09:58 PM

i only use zippys they are very good and cheap, in 1/10 and 1/8.
i just put 3 hardcase 2s 4000mAh 25c in serie on my ezrun 150A medusa 36-70 1600kv motor in my rc8te and it's working great. note, the esc is running without the fan and it stayed cool

jasonwipf 05-12-2009 05:32 AM

Same here, the zippies are 1/2 to a 1/4 th the price of some packs in the U.S. and they run fine on our cars. the cells go bad about as often as the higher price packs but for the price I can bust up 3 of them for every one of the fancy name brand packs and so far im still ahead money wise.

jasonwipf 05-12-2009 05:35 AM

Oh as for caster vs. kyosho. Kyosho is good but expensive and caster is cheap but parts get loose quick and all the caster team drivers in our ara who where given casters to run have quit using them due to losing too many races once they switched to them. OUCH. If you want a good Ebuggy for the money the Hyper 9E rocks and is a tad cheaper than many of the big boys, yet run neck and neck with them. Cheap parts too and way cool chassis design.

Marvin 05-12-2009 07:14 PM

It's not that cheap though compared with the Caster/Kyosho. My main issue with Kyosho is that they refuse to bring out any RTR car on a new chassis - just use a 7.5 all the time. It's dead, outdated!

steelie600 05-12-2009 07:55 PM

rc8e or rc8te for me im afraid, Hyper in its current form is too fragile, kyosho and caster are just cack, you get what you pay for. Buy right buy once imo.

My setup would be (will be for next year)

RC8be (RC8b with the Rc8 conversion kit), MMM and Neu motor, electro clutch and real brakes, Savox servo, and the Reedy 40c 5000mah battery.

Yes its high end kit but the quality is there and the potential to win races is there straight out of the box

offroadrc 05-12-2009 10:00 PM

i have a rc8t factory team with an e conversion kit, 6s lipo zippy hardcase, medusa 36-70 v2 1600kV afterburner motor, a ezrun 150 esc and a servo from hobbycity that i also use in my durango it pulls 16kg and it's fast for 28 Euro this is going great.

jasonwipf 10-12-2009 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by offroadrc (Post 318411)
i have a rc8t factory team with an e conversion kit, 6s lipo zippy hardcase, medusa 36-70 v2 1600kV afterburner motor, a ezrun 150 esc and a servo from hobbycity that i also use in my durango it pulls 16kg and it's fast for 28 Euro this is going great.

Is that hobbycity esc any good. the shape sorta looks like a castle clone with sensor ability. Does it get hot?

frogger 10-12-2009 10:04 AM

Zippy's are brilliant batteries. I use them in all my heli's and have bought a bunch of them for my other cars too. Very punchy and last many many cycles with good cell construction.

Marvin 10-12-2009 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonwipf (Post 319777)
Is that hobbycity esc any good. the shape sorta looks like a castle clone with sensor ability. Does it get hot?

Read my guide.

Can we get that stickied?

mobile chicane 25-12-2009 09:00 PM

it seems apex are doing the caster rtr for £240, I know there are better buggys out there but as it will be my basher car with ocational outings to swindons out door track it will be ideal for me.

I know they work loose quickly but if you strip and rebuild the rtr when new using a decent thread lock and replacing normal nuts with nylock where necessary I dont think it should be a problem

adrictan 26-12-2009 03:50 AM

I do'nt know abt losing parts. I run the EX1 Pro for training and the F8T Pro for races. I've not encountered problems as stated. As per any car, check, tighten, threadlock. I race against X2 CRTs, Losi 8Ts and have managed to hold my own.

offroadrc 20-01-2010 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonwipf (Post 319777)
Is that hobbycity esc any good. the shape sorta looks like a castle clone with sensor ability. Does it get hot?

it's a very good esc and it's not a clone, speedpassion has the same esc but the 80A 4s version. i have the 150A and it's great.

Marvin 21-01-2010 12:17 AM

He only said 'looks like'.

As stated though, Hobbywing own Speed Passion, and the Speed Passion Silver Arrow ESC is just a Hobbywing 80A with a lovely bent piece of metal on there. The new Hobbywing 80A/150A ESCs look much better.

Main disadvantage is that they're huge ESCs - even compared to the Castle!


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