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GSXR1000 09-11-2009 09:06 PM

Ally X-6²
 
Seeing that everybody is sticking weights on their car, I thought I might as well put the weight to use (+ the fact I can't resist tinkering on my cars)

chassis has exactly the same dimensions as the original; made from 8mm ally; seperate kick-up which slots into the chassis; rear arms axels now attached 501x/durango style; made on a conventional mill

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...0092009244.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...0092009247.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...9112009269.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...9112009272.jpg

all commentary welcome

jhammond 09-11-2009 09:17 PM

Wow...

Some impressive work there.

Mike Hudson 09-11-2009 09:28 PM

I like it nice work :thumbsup: Let us know how it performs when you get it on the track! You doing your own shell or how are you mounting the standard one?

Alex H 09-11-2009 09:33 PM

Hey man! Great work. Nice touch with saddle pack configuration. Think saddles are going to be more popular with car manufactures in the future. Slimmer chassis with better weight distribution. Think all the coming cars will be "lipo ready" with no need to fit old cells at all.

Impressed with your work. Got the same idea for a RB5. Keep them pics coming and good luck;)

Alex

MRD 09-11-2009 10:55 PM

Wowey Wow Wow. Thats some excelent machining.

stampede vxlboy 09-11-2009 11:44 PM

wow wow that is a nice car and i like your chassis

petemid8 10-11-2009 12:46 AM

I think this is the way Team Associated are gonna go with the next RC10. Seems to make sense, low down weight bringing the weight back up to the limit, car design going full circle it seems!

GSXR1000 10-11-2009 08:34 AM

Thanks for the comments.
Shell will be my first attempt at a coke bottle body.:cry:
For the moment, I'm looking for a starting set-up for ae shocks - not so easy to find seeing most people are running Losi shocks on an X6 - any help is appreciated

Btw: chassis is 136 gr heavier than a X6 - not miles of what most seem to add in extra weight

Alex H 10-11-2009 12:50 PM

By looking at the work you have done so far I am convinced your coke shell will be just as good:thumbsup:

raine 10-11-2009 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXR1000 (Post 308222)
Shell will be my first attempt at a coke bottle body.:cry:

hi i see that the most of you here try to make their bodys with coke bottles.
I have a little company here in germany and we make unique custom moulds for confectionerys and restaurants.
and we make body and wide body kits for 1/10 rc drift cars ( at the moment we make a "carnage" style body kit ), and next year we will make some shells mainly for the b4.
for making our custom moulds we use VIVAC ( sry dont know the english word ) and a vacuum thermoformin unit , i know not everyone can spend the money for such tools but there a many easy ways to get a near 100 % result especially for offroad shells.
for example


we did our first moulds like this, u need a lot of fine tuning with the temperature but if u got it , it will work very well.

@the ae shocks

don t know why everyone uses losi shocks if u build them correctly u will have no problems with leaky shocks
http://users.telenet.be/elvo/12/8/1.html

sorry for my english, hope it helps

pm if u need some more details

Conrad 10-11-2009 05:04 PM

Very nice machine work there sir ;)

GSXR1000 10-11-2009 07:42 PM

@ raine : looks simple enough in the vid, but I suppose in reality it's a little more complicated

I built my shocks à la Elvo yesterday, as it happens; I was just having trouble finding an X6 set up for asso shocks, thats all.

Any pics of the wide body kits? Just out of intrest - used to be into drifting in a big way, you see :D

raine 10-11-2009 08:27 PM

hey

sorry we have only some prototypes , i will show them if we have them ready for sale ;)
i know its easy to make wide body kits , but for that u have to buy another body and thats a bit expensive , so we make it cheaper.
and we have the oppurtunity to make porsche wide body parts fit on an citroen ax ^^
but i can take some photos from some of the carnage parts for my soarer.

@ vacuum thermoforming , a year ago we found a very very good guide how to build such a forming box on youtube , but i can t find it ;(

Rebelrc 10-11-2009 09:09 PM

Very nice!:thumbsup:
Just a thought....next time leave a little rib in the middle between cells
have you got the bug now....i love milling out new designs...
well done

GSXR1000 10-11-2009 09:28 PM

@ raine : If you can remember where to find the vid, I would be very interested

@ rebel : why the rib ? for longtitudinal stiffness ?
As for being bitten by the bug : that happened a long time ago:lol:. Until recently only bigscale stuff. Been admiring your stuff for some time here ; in fact it was that what made me start on this one

Rebelrc 10-11-2009 09:58 PM

cheers Mate
Rib= not so much for stiffness but to stop it bending in a massive shunt..and losing all that hard work.....i suppose it depends on how thick the bottom plate is.......on my B4 it was only 0.3 mm thick ( or thin shall we say )
i just felt my way with the dimentions being experienced with the tried and tested Durango
If it was ok for Gerd it was ok for me....lol

Rebelrc 10-11-2009 10:00 PM

did you machine the front kick up or bend it?

jhammond 10-11-2009 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebelrc (Post 308492)
did you machine the front kick up or bend it?

Teehee... Maybe he tweaked it.


Obvious joke.

Rebelrc 10-11-2009 10:09 PM

hammond you know everything :thumbsup:
:thumbdown:shame its all wrong...LOL
GSXR1000 if you pm me your phone number and a convenient time i will phone you and tell you exactly (leymans terms) how to make a good pop bottle body easily.

GSXR1000 10-11-2009 10:14 PM

chassis sides are 8mm, I left 3mm on the bottom and 4mm under the tranny and the motor - kickup is milled as I don't have acces to bending tools : 4mm thick where it kicks up and then sort of slotted

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...0092009243.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...0092009246.jpg


Sorry 'bout the poor quality pics

Rebelrc 10-11-2009 10:19 PM

Good man!
mine was machined also
much stronger and accurate:drool:

Rebelrc 10-11-2009 11:23 PM

At those dimensions no need for a centre rib
my old b4 cause it was ali every one thought it must be heavy...in fact it was with large radio gear and lipos over 400 grams under weight
a bit too much realy...should have left it hanging underneath like you have,
mine only took two panic strichened evenings though
but will try harder next time:thumbsup:

p.s did you see my carbon yokomo ( Rebel cc4 )

GSXR1000 10-11-2009 11:33 PM

Saw the B4 - shame it didn't survive - machining was nicer than mine

Saw the carbon carbon yok too : loved the "bio" shape :thumbsup:

Rebelrc 10-11-2009 11:41 PM

It did survive...i have just stripped its radio gear for my latest durango....( new one , washed out version of the proper 2005 prototype ):thumbdown:
but hey ho!:lol:
my problem is that i am so full of ideas that as soon as i start one i want to do something else more extreme....any one that is mates with me will deffo vouch for that....they do get p!**ed off with hearing my new ideas......:blush:

GSXR1000 11-11-2009 09:37 AM

Same here, drives the missus up the wall :D

New Durango might be a washed-out version, but still nice (enjoyed building mine and a blast to drive on carpet-looking forward to driving it outdoors)

Not something for this, forum, but still proud of it : the remains of my most ambitious project so far

5th scaler designed and build from the ground up

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...1112009274.jpg

Rebelrc 11-11-2009 12:04 PM

Wow....speechless for once:D

jono83 11-11-2009 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXR1000 (Post 308587)
Same here, drives the missus up the wall :D

New Durango might be a washed-out version, but still nice (enjoyed building mine and a blast to drive on carpet-looking forward to driving it outdoors)

Not something for this, forum, but still proud of it : the remains of my most ambitious project so far

5th scaler designed and build from the ground up

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...1112009274.jpg


hydraulic disc brakes?

raine 11-11-2009 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXR1000 (Post 308475)
@ raine : If you can remember where to find the vid, I would be very interested


http://www.myvideo.de/watch/4129718/..._Kabinenhauben

have fun , if u have any questions ask me ;)

GSXR1000 11-11-2009 07:52 PM

@Raine : helpfull video - would be ideal, if I find the courage to make the vacuum box etc, i'll keep you posted - thanks for your research :thumbsup:

Yep, the 1/5th scaler had hydro's front and rear-sold them on-driveline was also scavenged for another project

Garry Driffill 19-11-2009 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by petemid8 (Post 308204)
I think this is the way Team Associated are gonna go with the next RC10. Seems to make sense, low down weight bringing the weight back up to the limit, car design going full circle it seems!

It seems to be working really well over here, but the thing is there cars always seemed to be bread around there clay style tracks and rear engined cars...

Although it would be nice to see one from them i think it would be highly unlikely :(

GSXR1000 21-11-2009 08:13 PM

Managed to make a halfway decent coke bottle body (I won't pretend I succeeded on my first attempt :)) and get it painted

Just need to save up now for an 7.5t and a low profile servo to get it running

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...1112009276.jpg

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p...12009277-1.jpg

sparrow.2 21-11-2009 08:23 PM

WOW!

Best Coke bottle body I've seen up to now! Really like the shape and the paint job really sets it off!

The car itseld looks insane too!

Let us know how it goes once you have it running!

GSXR1000 21-11-2009 08:29 PM

Cheers :)

Tom3012 22-11-2009 12:22 AM

Awesome bodyshell!! What did you make the mould for it out of??

Mike Hudson 22-11-2009 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GSXR1000 (Post 313138)
Managed to make a halfway decent coke bottle body (I won't pretend I succeeded on my first attempt :)) and get it painted

Just need to save up now for an 7.5t and a low profile servo to get it running

Good luck with it buddy, looking good so far!

GSXR1000 22-11-2009 10:01 AM

Tom, the mould is made out of balsa wood - very easy to shape + I made a jig (like the tutorial) to be able to form the side-pods

The balsa is very easily damaged, however; if I ever do another one, I'd make it out of something more durable

GSXR1000 22-11-2009 10:25 AM

Btw: anyone know if someone makes +1 degree b4 rear hubs - the car now has 3 degree toe in - and from what I've been reading , it would be nice to have a 4 degree option available (and I'm too lazy at the moment to make a four degree toe-block :))
tnx

Gayo 22-11-2009 01:07 PM

Yokomo, Racer's Edge and Trinity make 1° hubs.

Oh, great job BTW :thumbsup:


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