1/8 indoors at bury
 

I don't know about you lot but I think the 1/8 buggys are awesome powerful and great fun. But I don't think they should be used at the indoor venue. The 1/8 cars are going to either rip the floor covering or really hurt someone. Also drivers waiting for the next heat are in danger I must have counted at least 5 buggys come over the table top and jump into the drivers waiting in that area also restricting the view for the racers coming round the bottom carpeted hair pin. I think this area should be no waiting due to the danger. People not racing the current heat should remain in the pit area until the last car has finished

regards

buds

I agree 100%. Also when the race is over all none racers leave that area asap. The number of times I put my car down, got onto the rostrum then couldn't see my car for all the people hanging round that bottom corner, which is pants when you only have like 20 seconds to line up on the grid.

I could not agree more mark. I to had the exact problem at one point someone just stopped himself standing on my car. It just felt like chaos for about 30 secs before each race

buds

I found afew times when i was finishing my race that i was getting hussled on the rostrum from the next heat drivers getting there spot, which was annoying but i do understand that it was quite rushed between heats. Defineatly struggled seeing at times though , i`m not moaning just think Dave has a point

Andy

1/8
 

I don't fancy one of them big 1/8 swine smacking me in the head or anywhere else I'll take my chance with a Durga as I have before but one of those big dogs is going to kill or break you leg what do they weigh? It must be around 4kg that's some psi if it hits you

buds

it was bit of a crush round that point and yes could not always see car when racing because of amount of people in one space,also when racing all it needed was the person next to you to lean slightly forward and you could not see the corner either end of track,just need to remember when next planning track leave a couple of meter in front of rostrum not put track right up to it.or taper track away from rostrum at a slight angle either end keeping full depth in the middle.

My personal opinion is the 1/8th should stick to 1/8th tracks. There are 3 top tracks near Bury, NNRC in Preston, PRCC in Blackpool, and Pdmcc in Nelson. If a track is designed for 1/10th which Bury clearly will be the 8th's are just too big/fast.

So if any of the 1/8th contingent want to race on REAL 8th tracks come over to the above tracks and we promise not to beat you by much.

I agree with that Rob, I struggled a couple of times with that too:(

I couldn't see past Pauls belly :p.

I was the marshal on the scene when one of the 1/8ths smashed apart the jump just before the straight. Considering how heavy those ramps are (I carried them out of storage) there was a lot of force in that impact. Certainly had me thinking our current level of bystander protection wasn't up to dealing with that sort of mass at that speed.

In truth though the 2 we had were well driven and under decent control. The problem is this - available from the model shop in the Trafford centre for £300 and even less at Modelsport. Thats true RTR - even with lipos making it an exceptionally cheap car. That means potentially we could have complete novices (or worse still me!) driving cars only a little slower and just as heavy as those on Sunday. That is a very worrying concept.

scarey
 

dont worry boys i wont be investing in 1/8th your safe. i dangerous enough wi 10th:)

It was that broken ramp that I got caught up in in my final. Now I dislike 8th more than ever :cry:.

Sorry - My fault for not fixing it properly!

It needed taping down again but clearly that couldn't be done mid race, and with so little time between heats I did what I could, then had to stop. I should have fixed it between the heats and finals but forgot :blush:

Don't worry about it, its my excuse for not winning ;).

Tape
 

we all know what a fetish you have for tape and glitter you should change your name to " the oople gimp" .:thumbsup:

Thats not why you didn't win:p

Ho, ho ho. You do make me laugh Mr Wilkinson :rolleyes:

As do you..... With your driving antics:p:woot:

Would that be my 'scrappy' driving?

You know it BABY:woot:

lmao, i take it u 2 are sharing a room at Worksop with all this flirting going on!!

There's always room for three :wub.

What you 2 and Paul... Keep the noise down. I will need my racing sleep!:woot:

Point taken
 

I agree Rob.
........................'ang on, I thought you helped build the track.

I agree Rob`s fault :p

I was one of the only two 1/8th racers at bury this weekend and I am struggling to see your issue with safety.

I have raced 1/8th RallyX for over 5 years and have never see any broken legs nor have I seen anyone killed by a 1/8th Buggy, Believe it or not I have seen more broken bones from 1/10th cars in my early years of 1/10 racing, I also see more accidents from safety issues with the track (people tripping whilst marshalling) or falling rostrums.

If the track is set out correctly and drivers are warned at the drivers briefing not to gather around the rostrum then there will be less chance of an accident.

Also with the issue of the 1/8'ths ripping the flooring up off the jumps, add a little more carpet to that landing area to protect.

I think what the Bury club have done to allow 1/8 to race is a very good thing and would hate to see them get banned because of an issue with safety.

1/8
 

Neil I'm not saying your not very capable driver becouse I know you are . What about the young lad racing one he took my car out before the race even started . He does not have the control you have and my mates just bought one I wouldn't like to see one in his hands he strugled keeping his lazer on the track so what's he going to be like?

buds

I agree. The issue isn't with the 1/8th cars - it's just with keeping people away from the track.

Rather than going to the extremes of netting the whole track, just some safety tape in the busier areas (where drivers are waiting and reading the time sheets) would be sufficient. That would keep the view clear for the corners as well. You could always net just the near corner if any issues were evident.

The last thing I would want to see is any class being excluded unnecessarily. I know that Bury have always been very open to running other classes and I think that this is good for the hobby.

Dave
Roundabout Toys

The 1/8th looked good going round. They were loads faster than the trucks though. Its a shame there arnt enough to make their own heat. The younger driver did seem to be struggling with his car. Thats not his fault as we all need to start somewhere. It was a little hard work trying to get round and keep out of the way too. Those 1/8th cars can really push the trucks around. But I believe that 1/8th electric will catch on and I hope will see more of them:thumbsup:

I wasn't suggesting 1/8th are in any way unsafe, just that I felt the safety measures we had put in place were inadequate to cope with them. I've been to nitro races before and agree that on a correctly set out track they are effectively safer than 1/10th (because we often skip safety issues) but that is at a proper 1/8th track.
Essentially we are left with a choice - build the track with the 1/8ths in mind, or not allow them. Its possible to increase spectator safety fairly easily (there were more benches to make barriers) but marshal safety is a lot harder. Several marshals got hit by 1/10ths especially marshalling the jump. A hit from an 1/8th in full flight would have you in hospital.

The only things I can think of to increase marshal safety are...

1/ Give advice in the drivers briefing, especially for new drivers, as to what to be aware of when marshalling. Also advise drivers regarding slowing down when a marshal is in certain areas of the track.

2/ High visibility vests for marshals.

3/ Moving the marshalling points to make some areas easier to marshal. I think that having the larger gap suggested by someone earlier between the rostrum and track would make the tabletop easier to marshall.

Maybe these would help. These are just things I've thought of quickly, so criticism is welcome.

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There's always room for three :wub.

What you 2 and Paul... Keep the noise down. I will need my racing sleep!:woot:


You 2 have just given me the chills!

These things, and im sure Birdy will correct me if im wrong, have been in place at NNRC since its inception and surely they are just common sense??

Yes - for a nitro track! But they are much less common in electric 10th as at times they are arguably not needed.
This is what I mean - its not that the 1/8th themselves are the problem, they just need more care to be taken.

But surely Si, nitro leccy 10th 8th or largescale its just common sense. end of the day no matter what the size of the cars, the inertia is what does the damage, so with the 10ths being just as fast if not faster than the 8ths its more reason to implement above ideas??

As Si said, they aren't common in 10th.

But you are right, they are common sense. But common sense doesn't always prevail.

It's usually after an accident that the safety measures get implemented. :eh?:

And there is a problem with common sense.......










.....it's not common enough!

G

This is the thing, prevention is better than cure!

So if Bury comittee get their collective brains together im sure they can come up with a viable solution, and in doing so prevent accidents.

Not sure if that came out right but you know what i mean, and nothing is meant in malice.

wow hold on:eh?:,it cant be all my fault! i was only following orders from other people who i presumed new what they were doing,so next time il speak up,people should put pen to paper for track ideas to speed up building on the saturday aswell.

Ill blame you too Rob!! Thats how come you beat me! LOL:D