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CODMAN 19-10-2009 02:33 PM

New B-max4 kit? Is it possible?
 
Hi all, would anybody have any insight into the possibility of Yokomo coming out with a new kit for the B-max4? With the Japans national kit having had such success, and the new Big bores and carbon battery strap out now, I was thinking they might bring out a new kit including these hop-ups...

Anybody have an oppinion on this? Sponsored racers, any inside info about this? Yay/Nay?

I might be buying myself a B-max4 this winter, but would definetly hold out if they will be coming out with a new kit... Cheaper than buying the hop-ups afterwards...

Cheers for any input on this!:thumbsup:

sebus 19-10-2009 03:30 PM

i see one picture in the yokomo stand to the tokyo exhibition of one bmax4 factory team with all option......

mes 19-10-2009 05:12 PM

Yes, that's the one I'm waiting for, too! :thumbsup:
I wanted to get a DEX410 first, but with no Durango team driver to support me in my club, what's a hobby driver to do... Well, could have been worse!

CODMAN 19-10-2009 06:21 PM

Do you guys have links to this? Pics?

I can't find anything on the Yokomo site...

Thanks!

BadgersOnAcid 19-10-2009 08:18 PM

Had a quick look on the yokomo web site and found this
B-max 4 Factory Team 41800 yen http://www.teamyokomo.com/jpn/event/...hobbyshow.html

Craig

CODMAN 19-10-2009 10:42 PM

Nice! I hope it has more than just the Bigbores onboard! I guess we,ll see! That will definetly be the one I get if I can go through with it. Now how to hide it from the misses...:woot:

:lol:

4times 19-10-2009 10:52 PM

pic for the thread
 
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Here is the pic from yokomo for the thread....

DaveG28 19-10-2009 11:35 PM

Looks like it has the option front suspension block too, so hopefully it's bling all over!

Who's esc's/motors are they rebadging for their brushless?

Seems to be a trend over there, Tamiya have just rebadged the SXX TC too!

pedro72 20-10-2009 07:02 AM

Is it just me or does that look like a new body with a bigger air vent on the side?

Peter

CODMAN 20-10-2009 08:59 PM

I wonder if it will have the Ti screw kit... or at least a hex screw kit...:drool:

ottoswe 21-10-2009 12:15 AM

Looks like the same body, with a large hole to fit the heat sink from the alu motor mount.

mes 27-10-2009 05:00 PM

Good information in bad English:

http://www.rceasy.com/2009/10/27/yok...4-factory-kit/

:thumbsup:

mes 15-11-2009 05:30 AM

Manual download:

http://www.teamyokomo.com/jpn/downlo...x4f_manual.pdf

:D

mark79 15-11-2009 04:54 PM

New kit (factory spec) is the same as the 09 spec champ kit (loads of alloy) with the addition of big bores as seen here: http://yokomo.blogspot.com/

Its in stock here: http://www.rc-race-and-drift-japan.c...oducts_id=1800

mes 17-11-2009 05:33 PM

It doeas also contain the new carbon fiber battery mounts! An additional pair of springs (orange, soft) seems to be included, too :thumbsup:, but unfortunately the front wheel hexes seem to be missing...:thumbdown:

CODMAN 17-11-2009 06:08 PM

Wow, the hexes are not on the exploded view...:woot: It's either a mistake, or they really did omit them...:confused:

As for the springs, I think it comes with black front (medium) orange rear (soft)... Not a full set, with means ordering more for tuning...:confused:



Quote:

Originally Posted by mes (Post 311532)
It doeas also contain the new carbon fiber battery mounts! An additional pair of springs (orange, soft) seems to be included, too :thumbsup:, but unfortunately the front wheel hexes seem to be missing...:thumbdown:


Kifogrande 17-11-2009 06:10 PM

I really want one of these! Screw everyone else this christmas! Got to get priorities right, new car first!:thumbsup:

CODMAN 18-11-2009 03:26 AM

It's been confirmed, the kit does not contain the hexes...:thumbdown::thumbdown: Major bummer....

Quote:

Originally Posted by mes (Post 311532)
It doeas also contain the new carbon fiber battery mounts! An additional pair of springs (orange, soft) seems to be included, too :thumbsup:, but unfortunately the front wheel hexes seem to be missing...:thumbdown:


johan neyens 18-11-2009 10:38 AM

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My factory kit just arrived today!! Hope to run it soon!! The big bore shocks are very nice looking!!:thumbsup:

CODMAN 18-11-2009 12:56 PM

Hey Johan, can you confirm that the only shock springs included with the kit are the black fronts and orange rears? And it's the 87T spur that's included?

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by johan neyens (Post 311783)
My factory kit just arrived today!! Hope to run it soon!! The big bore shocks are very nice looking!!:thumbsup:


jhammond 18-11-2009 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johan neyens (Post 311783)
My factory kit just arrived today!! Hope to run it soon!! The big bore shocks are very nice looking!!:thumbsup:



I have to say, even though those big-bore shocks are likely to have no performance gains what-so-ever; they do look AMAZING!

:thumbsup:


I think Yokomo have created a really nice package in the new B-Max4 FT kit.


Julius.

mes 18-11-2009 05:45 PM

As it seems some customers have been lucky and received wrongly packaged kits including BOTH spring types for the rear... Well, its quite unlikely that I will be that fortunate when my dealer will finally get the kits.
Whatever, I'm really looking forward to it, two sets of tires are already prepared (Goosebumps and Double Dee's on Rulux rims), the Womoog body is painted, Ryan's carbon fibre shock towers are waiting...

fastinfastout 02-12-2009 01:47 PM

big bore shock seals
 
does anyone know if the shock seals are the same part number as the normal ones?

I dont know whether the shock pistons rods are larger in diameter or not?:cry:

Yardeeee 02-12-2009 02:08 PM

Hi,

The shock seals in the big bores are identical to those in the standard size shocks. The bottom seal cartridge is exactly the same, so all the seals and spacers comply.

The rods are also the same as in the standard shocks. :thumbsup:

fastinfastout 02-12-2009 02:10 PM

excellent, thanks for your quick reply.

do you have one?:drool:

Yardeeee 02-12-2009 02:15 PM

I have a factory team B-Max yeah.

fastinfastout 02-12-2009 02:20 PM

does the 'factory team' version come with self tapping screws, or hex screws?

Yardeeee 02-12-2009 02:24 PM

I'll be honest... I don't actually know the answer to that. My car has been upgraded to Factory Team spec and I have been running the big bore shocks since the euros in august... I haven't had a factory team one in kit form yet.

I would suspect that the FT kit has hex screws, I personally use a titanium screw kit in mine.

Sorry I can't be more certain...

fastinfastout 02-12-2009 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yardeeee (Post 317148)
I'll be honest... I don't actually know the answer to that. My car has been upgraded to Factory Team spec and I have been running the big bore shocks since the euros in august... I haven't had a factory team one in kit form yet.

I would suspect that the FT kit has hex screws, I personally use a titanium screw kit in mine.

Sorry I can't be more certain...

no worries, the manual which someone had a link to earlier looked like it doesnt come with hex's.

I personally have used hex's in all my cars but the bmax, and to be honest I dont mind the tapping screws. Seems with less threads, that there is less work to undo screws:thumbsup:

is the titanium screw kit your using, the yokomo one?
I thought I saw a picture of them but they didnt have a fine metric thread, but instead looked like self tapping screws with a hex head. Maybe I'm wrong, but thats what I thought I saw!

Yardeeee 02-12-2009 02:35 PM

It is a Yokomo set of screws yeah. They have a regular metric thread on them...

fastinfastout 02-12-2009 02:40 PM

yes metric thread sounds right!

I dont know where I got the hex screws with self tapping thread from lol

CODMAN 02-12-2009 03:29 PM

I just got news there is a package waiting at home for me...:thumbsup: Hopefully it,s the B-max and spares I ordered!:woot::woot:

Yardee, thanks so much for taking the time to answer questions on this forum. Feedback from a sponsored racer is priceless. Especially since I'll surely be the only person in my area who will have a B-max!:p

Can I ask you a question? I also got the Titanium screw kit (just for the hex heads). Do you put anti-seize on the screws that will be going into AL parts? Titanium is notorious for Galvanic corosion with AL and can litteraly weld itself together.

Oh, and may I ask what your target weight is for your buggy? I don't have weight limits where I race, but I definetly want to get it high enough so it performs well.

Any insight on this would be welcome! Thanks again for sharing!:thumbsup:

Yardeeee 02-12-2009 06:59 PM

Hi Codman,

No problem about answering questions... I don't do it as often as maybe I should, I will try and come on a bit more often...

We use no substances on the screws at all, we have never had any problems with seizing at all... I have had the full aluminium range on my car for about 5 months now and there has been no issues. There arn't that many screws that actually go into aluminium...

Throughout the summer season here in the UK I had been running my car with LiPo batteries and no additional weight, so the car was coming in at around 1730g. However, the car was of course designed around NiMh battery weight being sat at the rear of the car, so over the last few weeks I have been doing more testing with weight fitted back in the car. I now have 2 led strips sat underneath each lipo saddle, adding up to around 160g to give the ballast of NiMh batteries whilst running LiPo. So my car now sits at about 1890g! I know it sounds a lot, but I really am of the belief that this is the best thing to do, particularly with the big bore shocks on as these are naturally a little stiffer than the standard shocks (the rear BB orange spring, although the softest, is still relatively stiff) my car feels very balanced.

For the record, as I don't think it has been posted on here yet, my starting point for my Big Bore shocks is like this:

Front- BB purple spring (hardest), Black piston, AE 30wt oil. Middle hole on tower, inner hole on wishbone. No limiters...

Rear- BB orange spring (softest), white piston, AE 25wt oil. Middle hole on tower, inner hole on wishbone. No limiters...

Tom

CODMAN 02-12-2009 07:28 PM

Thanks Tom! I was also think of putting some weights under the Lipos, especially since I'm running 4200mah, which are quite light.

Wow, you jump a full spring stiffness between the front and the back! Well, there is nothing like trying! :thumbsup: And after that, it's to each hi own preference!

Cheers!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yardeeee (Post 317251)
Hi Codman,

No problem about answering questions... I don't do it as often as maybe I should, I will try and come on a bit more often...

We use no substances on the screws at all, we have never had any problems with seizing at all... I have had the full aluminium range on my car for about 5 months now and there has been no issues. There arn't that many screws that actually go into aluminium...

Throughout the summer season here in the UK I had been running my car with LiPo batteries and no additional weight, so the car was coming in at around 1730g. However, the car was of course designed around NiMh battery weight being sat at the rear of the car, so over the last few weeks I have been doing more testing with weight fitted back in the car. I now have 2 led strips sat underneath each lipo saddle, adding up to around 160g to give the ballast of NiMh batteries whilst running LiPo. So my car now sits at about 1890g! I know it sounds a lot, but I really am of the belief that this is the best thing to do, particularly with the big bore shocks on as these are naturally a little stiffer than the standard shocks (the rear BB orange spring, although the softest, is still relatively stiff) my car feels very balanced.

For the record, as I don't think it has been posted on here yet, my starting point for my Big Bore shocks is like this:

Front- BB purple spring (hardest), Black piston, AE 30wt oil. Middle hole on tower, inner hole on wishbone. No limiters...

Rear- BB orange spring (softest), white piston, AE 25wt oil. Middle hole on tower, inner hole on wishbone. No limiters...

Tom


CODMAN 03-12-2009 02:08 AM

Just got the Factory team B-max!!!:woot::woot: Ooh yeah....

Man I feel so silly getting excited over a toy car...:lol:

And of course the look of disaprooval on my girlfriends face...:confused:

Can't wait to start the build! I'll surely be around asking questions shortly...

grapejuice 30-12-2009 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yardeeee (Post 317139)
Hi,

The shock seals in the big bores are identical to those in the standard size shocks. The bottom seal cartridge is exactly the same, so all the seals and spacers comply.

The rods are also the same as in the standard shocks. :thumbsup:

So...would say AE shock o-rings work?

CODMAN 30-12-2009 07:55 PM

Even if they did Grape, I wouldn't use them. They are the biggest gripe racers have with AE shocks! problems leaking, and such... The Yokomo o-rings are nice and people rarely complain about them. Just stock up a bit they are cheap) and you will save yourself a lot of trouble...

Just my 0.02$

Quote:

Originally Posted by grapejuice (Post 325326)
So...would say AE shock o-rings work?


grapejuice 30-12-2009 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CODMAN (Post 325458)
Even if they did Grape, I wouldn't use them. They are the biggest gripe racers have with AE shocks! problems leaking, and such... The Yokomo o-rings are nice and people rarely complain about them. Just stock up a bit they are cheap) and you will save yourself a lot of trouble...

Just my 0.02$

I was just trying to get an idea if the size of the o-rings are the same since I can get them at my LHS, I use them in my Losi shocks and never have a problem, o-rings aren't the problem with AE shocks, it's the overall design of them. But I was planning on ordering extra yokomo o-rings, just got to find a car now...


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