The VeloC2
 

Its here.

I hope to release this soon, if the reception is good.

Heres the spec of the prototype:
- Twin Deck, 3mm delrin, slim chassis.
- Laydown front shock absorbers
- Delrin front turnbuckle mount, Rear shock tower, shock-rockers.
- Uses B4 and GT2 parts.
- 3 x 3 saddle pack cells
- Cool carbon battery mount

For the release version, I plan:
- Carbon moulded chassis- Hybrid mix to product stronger and lighter chassis, secret formula.
- Carbon parts
- More blue bits ;)

View the pics at

http://www.tyrc-racing.com/veloc2

sorry for the darkness, I will take some more after and during its first test-run ;)

Also sorry for the terrible mess, the soft picture (My D50 was on its last legs battery wise) and the yellow pages haha :D

yes my workroom is a tip, but I know where everything is :D:D

It looks very long, what is the wheelbase compare to other cars in the same class, it might just be an optical illusion:D

Hope it works for you mate, but i think you should reduce the toe out up front;) .

haha, yeah the toe-out is due to me waiting for GT2 steering parts haha.

Wheel base wise, it is longer, in fact about 5cm longer, but still well under the BRCA length limit ;)

5cm longer than a b4??
it will handle like a truck
but well done on the work,looks like u put in some hours

it looks like you pot alot of time an efoort in to the car. let us all know how it handles!

Thanks for the comments.

i will let you all know how it goes soon as I get a shell made, a 4t brushless strapped in, and batley is attacked haha.

Yes it may be possibly less responsive than a B4, but I have the option to reduce the length as much as I want as its made of delrin, which is fantastic for prototyping.

Its taken about 50 hours to get to this stage, and 3 years planning haha.

you need shorter turnbuckles on your rocker links for the inboard shocks.

how come? Shocks work perfect at the moment, theres around 5 cm of travel, I will be putting bigger pistons in and 30wt oil too when I run it.

I always wondered who nicked me nans tights!!!!!!!!!

can someone tell me the benefits of doing this?

god that's long! will be great over bumps and sweepers, but i wouldn't want to drive it round a hairpin!

3 point turn anyone?!!!

You could always cut it in half and make in into one off those bendy buses!!

There are no benefits of nicking Daz's nans tights;)

Because it got more droop than Daz's Nans granny knickers dude

I'm not sure about that: daz'z nan is a "pocket nan" (she's really small) so there's not too much droop there...

hahaha.

Yeah, I will try the chassis at this length, and see if it will turn, although testing it on the workroom floor leaves me to think it inst so much larger (turning circle wise) than the B4. I will make a custom steering link thats wider, to give it more steering, and more aggressive handling, I will try a shorter chassis though, before I mould the carbon one up, just to be sure its right.

I think the skinniness adds to the illusion of it been a mile long.


Think how it can phsc out your competition. You qualified first, but you stretch the whole grid, and your already into the first corner before the race starts ahaha.

The 'nans knickers' are actually 'shock socks' they keep dirt off the shock shaft and threads so they function properly, and receive little extra wear, caused by nasty grit and muck.

oh DCM, I also shortened the turnbuckles, using TC4 one after I took this picture

Set a date for track test

29th April. D DAy. :D


Protect your windows, else they could betaken out when I do a jump at batley haha.

I think the turnbuckles are too long. 5mm more than the standard B4 is a fair bit so may be a bit awkward in turns and looks rather boxy even though it is a prototype. Seems good though. Although Velo does mean bicycle in french so maybe a rename

How about calling it Waylong?

I suppose if it doesn't work you could always wrap some cloth round it and use it as a draught excluder ;)

Only kidding - I like to see people prepared to try new stuff.

TC2K - he said 5cm NOT 5mm............

lol, thanks for your input, I think a 5cm reduction may be called for, but I will drive it first.

Have you considered drag racing?

Dude, I wish I had your wit!!:D :D

I wrote a freaking long reply to this yesterday that seems to have got lost in the eather (sp?). So the compacted version is this.

Ben, the front seems wrong to me. The puch rods, rocker bearings and shock inc picovts need to be in the same plane, like on the pred.

Your appears from the photos to have rocker bearings attatched vertically, this means they will only work correctly in the 'plan view'. The pushrods are working mostly vertically which is a completely different plane, so the forces will be acting as a massive twist force on the rocker and bearings. This will lead to unpredicatble responce I think.

Also the static (or slow speed) turning circle is meaningless to the dynamic one of when the car is on track. So trying the turning circle in your workroom floor means nothing.

Don't take this as me knocking you, more constuctive critisism.

And anyway I might have read the pics wrong ;)

Dan

thanks for comments and critiscm everyone (it helps me improove, keep it coming)

Why are you using GT2 steering? The ackerman is different to the B4.

G

I am using it for testing purposes, until I have time to get parts machined so I can fit a B4 topplate (or a custom made one) ;)

Gonna give it test this saturday , provided I get the parts and time.....

Good luck with it, but personally i think you should just stick to trying things yourself and seeing how you find them before talking and planning to release it.

I don't want to be rude, but have you actually thought about what the changes you've made will do to the car, or have you just thought up what it would look like in your head and had a go at it?

I'm not knocking you at all as i think it's impressive someone your age is so interested in the hobby and willing to get the tools out to make things.

I just can't help but think you seem dead set on making / releasing a product when to be honest if you're in it to enjoy racing and improve your driving you would be far better just getting a B4 and racing it - they don't need improving (yet).

What i'm trying to say is that the best way to really gain an understanding of what does and doesn't work on these cars is to race them, and get good at it! Fair enough try different set-ups and Tyres etc, (believe me, this alone can throw you miles off or even on the pace) and then once you think you really understand the way a car works have a go at changing things but they have to be done with reason. You wouldn't get any old person re-designing the current Ferrari F1 car just by thinking of different things to try - there has to be logic to this sort of thing.

Good on you keep going with our project just keep an open mind, the world needs people like you.
Do'nt ever give up ever.
All young designers have to start somwhere and you will learn from your experience, on materials and the engineering side of things, even the sorcing of parts ect

Phill T

wow thats a serious comment lol;)

who let that old man in!!?? ;)

lol :D

lol!

lol!!!:D

I have been Creeed

More like De-Creed!

Would he be wearing his nans tights to do that?

lol, thanks for the comments. 'People like me' hahaha.


I will be racing and testing this personally, so I may be making some appearances at Batley, and spending many hours there just driving.

I personally, don't have the 'skills' to sell this car, or to release it 'publicly', I guess I just want a cool car, made by myself. When I do 'release' it, I mean in a sense, I have released my serious (and freakish) want to build a car, I have wanted this for 4 years. It will all be gone, and i hope to have a nice runner at the end of it.

I will be receiving, anonymous, help from a certain person who is well into RC.

Of course, anyone who happens to want a 'final' version of the car, I will sure cater for them ;)

Thanks for your nice, and 'realistic' comments (which I have vowed to listen to now, due to tyrc's previous mistakes and doodads;))

so, have you run it yet?

Whatever happened to this guy? His posts used to crack me up.