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stampede vxlboy 10-10-2009 01:16 AM

spur b4
 
does the spur gear make a noise b4 or should it be smooth ? any help plz . or do all buggy make noise from the spur gear ? :lol:

chris_trcc 10-10-2009 07:51 AM

all goes off dp size, but on a b4 should be quiet, sounds to me you havnt got enough clearance between the pinion and spur. or slightly too much (is it stripping the teeth?)

bodgit 10-10-2009 11:33 AM

You should also check the gap is consistant by rotating the spur one full rotation, and checking the gap. Not all spur gears are perfectly round so what may seem enough on one side may be tight on the other.
I use a bit of paper or insulation tape between the teeth when I set mine so it cant be too tight.

chris_trcc 10-10-2009 02:08 PM

i seen a few people that done that in the past but never actually tried it. does it work on 64 dp gears or just the 48dp

rc_dan 10-10-2009 03:32 PM

i use the paper trick. works every time with 48dp's

should work on 64 dp to, try it ? try a Rizla if not

bodgit 10-10-2009 03:49 PM

If you find paper too thick for the finer 64dp use tissue paper folded.

stampede vxlboy 10-10-2009 05:44 PM

WHAT SPUR GEARS ARE THEY 48DP OR 64DP :woot:

gerbil 10-10-2009 05:46 PM

b4 's are 48dp mate

stampede vxlboy 10-10-2009 05:52 PM

THANKS GIRBIL

jim76 10-10-2009 07:13 PM

i think you should fit the madrat spur and pads on it, that will make it run a bit quieter

rc_dan 10-10-2009 09:24 PM

madrat spur is socking !

stampede vxlboy 11-10-2009 11:09 AM

are you joking jim 76 the spur gears for the madrat are pants

stampede vxlboy 11-10-2009 11:14 AM

sorted the spur gear out. but when i hit the brakes it slow at the brakes coming on . using ezrun 5.5 could it be coz of the power of the motor .i need it to stop dead . i use the same set up in my son madrat and the brakes on that are fine but that a ezrun 9turn

Battle_axe 11-10-2009 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stampede vxlboy (Post 297065)
sorted the spur gear out. but when i hit the brakes it slow at the brakes coming on . using ezrun 5.5 could it be coz of the power of the motor .i need it to stop dead . i use the same set up in my son madrat and the brakes on that are fine but that a ezrun 9turn

you should be able to change the brakes with the setup card for the ezrun speed contol

stampede vxlboy 11-10-2009 11:46 AM

i have but it will not set like the madrat brakes the well fast . but is that because the motor been faster or not . 5.5turn b4 and the madrat 9turner

Battle_axe 11-10-2009 03:21 PM

it could just be that you are going allot faster than the 9 turner and u need further to stop

stampede vxlboy 11-10-2009 04:53 PM

it does not seem it was making a buzzing tune and rev up on its own with out me touch the handset

stampede vxlboy 11-10-2009 07:57 PM

no the motor works fine in my son madrat the brakes are fast as hell . but in the b4 its like it takes 10 seconds to stop a little bit. but just rolls in the b4 like it does not want to stop . but the madrat rat as the same esc in a stop fast as hell in madrat but not the b4 . does anybody know why it would do this :confused::confused::(

stampede vxlboy 11-10-2009 08:56 PM

any help would be good

i4n 12-10-2009 08:05 AM

Are the rear wheel locking and the buggy just skidding to a stop? If so, that will explain why the B4 takes longer to stop (tyres have maximum braking traction just before they lock up and when they lock up they have less)

stampede vxlboy 12-10-2009 10:24 AM

when i hit the brakes it just carry on then stops about 10seconds after me putting the brakes on :confused::confused:

i4n 12-10-2009 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stampede vxlboy (Post 297352)
when i hit the brakes it just carry on then stops about 10seconds after me putting the brakes on :confused::confused:

Simon, we know that - you've written it about 10 times in this thread and countless other times in the other thread you've started about the EZ run, but what you're asking can be interpreted in several different ways - do you actually mean it comes to a stop 10 seconds after you hit the brakes? Do you mean, it coasts for 10 seconds and then comes to a stop or do you mean it keeps accelerating and 10 seconds later it starts to brake and comes to a stop? Explain everything fully mate and we can help you as we know EXACTLY what is going on.

Anyhow, back to what I asked, are the rear wheels locking? Do they physically stop rotating but the buggy keeps going (like the skids you used to do on a bike when you were 12?).

If you answer the questions asked, it helps people rule out every cause of you problem. By doing this people will want to help you, rather than just getting annoyed with you asking the same thing over, and over, and over, and over.... For example, I'm using my own personal experience here by asking you that question as on my 2WD drive car, if the brakes are set too hard/high, the rear wheels lock up and it doesn't appear to stop.

stampede vxlboy 12-10-2009 11:15 AM

did you get my pm when you hit the brakes it just carry on

i4n 12-10-2009 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stampede vxlboy (Post 297362)
did you get my pm when you hit the brakes it just carry on

Yep, and replied to both of them.

stampede vxlboy 12-10-2009 03:56 PM

i have re set the diff and its still the same i put it down to the handset and esc that why the brakes come on a little bit and not full brakes ,

bigred5765 12-10-2009 04:02 PM

but didnt you say you had used the same hand set and esc on both cars and it works better in one car than the other??

stampede vxlboy 12-10-2009 04:05 PM

i have got a ezrun in the madrat 9t combo and a traxxas handset and in my b4 ezrun 5.5t and a traxxas handset set . and yes the both work better in the madrat :confused:

stampede vxlboy 12-10-2009 04:07 PM

it stop but no faster another plus brakes are set to 100%

bigred5765 12-10-2009 04:13 PM

if one is a 9t and the other a 5.5 its probabaly going faster so will take longer to stop

stampede vxlboy 12-10-2009 04:17 PM

i understand that but it like the brakes are crap on it
no because the 5.5 t work fine in the madrat brakes are very good

i4n 12-10-2009 04:29 PM

If you've done all I've recommended in the PM then it can only be the electronics, but as you say they work better in the Rat than the B4 I'm still thinking something is wrong with the car - it's the basics of fault finding, if you substitute equipment and the problem remains it is what hasn't changed at fault, in this case your B4. As others have said, it would be a lot easier if we could get our hands on the car so I'm afraid I'm all out of ideas Simon, I'd suggest taking it to a local model shop (with your radio gear etc), telling them what is happening and the let them sort it out.

For your future reference, here is a link to the .pdf version of the manual (2 seconds on Google looking for "Associated B4 Manual" found it) http://aedownloads.com/downloads/man...tb4_manual.pdf download it, print it out and keep a copy with the car as it will answer loads of your questions.

stampede vxlboy 12-10-2009 04:45 PM

thanks i am going to set my 2.4ghz and see if that better . if not i will take it to the modelshop

stampede vxlboy 12-10-2009 06:32 PM

cannot get the back wheels to lock up at all . its does it in reverse

Ashley 12-10-2009 08:01 PM

Hi does your sons madrat stop all of a sudden?

Try drag brake on your b4 you will need to set that through the programming card though.

stampede vxlboy 12-10-2009 08:09 PM

the madrat stop dead and the b4 stop but know were as good as the madrat . and the spur are hard to set it right b4

stampede vxlboy 12-10-2009 08:24 PM

drag brakes on 20% and 100% brakes

tony6187 12-10-2009 09:04 PM

could it be the slipper being loose/worn pads?:confused:

bigred5765 12-10-2009 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stampede vxlboy (Post 297579)
cannot get the back wheels to lock up at all . its does it in reverse

so if it locks the wheels in reverse and not in forward driving,might it be the case Ur actually driving the car with revers as forwards and forwards as revers and u just revered your tranny to make it right, i read that some were if you change any two wires on the ezrun it reverses the direction of the motor???PS don't think any speedo has breaks in revers mode ??

stampede vxlboy 12-10-2009 10:09 PM

i set it all but the brakes are like that because of the power i have tryed turning the wires around and when you go forward on the handset it goes in reverse and when you go in reverse in forwards

stampede vxlboy 12-10-2009 10:11 PM

thanks for all the help guys hope to see you at a track soon


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