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B4 Sloth 30-09-2009 09:07 AM

Release date of 410R
 
Does anyone know when the less expensive version will be made available. I have seen the full fat version and can see why it costs what it does. I just have not got the funds:(
The durango is fantastic on every level.

Apologies if this is posted elsewhere.

4times 07-11-2009 03:28 PM

Any update on this budget version?

one 07-11-2009 11:31 PM

I guess it is pretty lame to say this as a reply, and may not be welcome but...

Skip a couple of weekends of going out drinking, or save money elsewhere sell stuff on feebay, then pick up the current kit. It is worth every penny :thumbsup: You wont regret it, why wait :drool:

4times 08-11-2009 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by one (Post 307392)
I guess it is pretty lame to say this as a reply, and may not be welcome but...

Skip a couple of weekends of going out drinking, or save money elsewhere sell stuff on feebay, then pick up the current kit. It is worth every penny :thumbsup: You wont regret it, why wait :drool:

I wasn't asking because of the costs. I'm more interested in a molded chassis rather than the aluminum and ball diffs instead of metal gears. I'm sure a budget version with molded chassis and ball diffs will still be on the high side compared to most.

Also, I think a molded chassis and ball diffs will make the buggy more forgiving and easier to drive because of the added flex. I've read about a lot guys having problems getting the car to settle down and drive smoothly.

I have enough rc gear to start a hobby shop, so yes, I could sell some stuff and get the current version or just buy it. But that wasn't the intent of the query.

mark christopher 08-11-2009 03:35 AM

in my opinion going to ball diffs is a backward step

4times 08-11-2009 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 307416)
in my opinion going to ball diffs is a backward step

In certain applications and on some tracks, it's my opinion that a molded chassis with more flex might make the car better. And, in some circumstances, lighter ball diffs may have a considerable advantage over the heavier metal gears. So, I have to respectfully disagree with your generalization.

Anyway, I'm not trying to argue with anyone on this or take anything away from the current version, I was just wondering if anyone knew about a release date or time frame for the budget version. Tough crowd in this thread :confused:

one 08-11-2009 07:40 AM

Well you could buy the current kit and then buy the ball diffs and plastic chassis as tuning tools when they come out. :thumbsup:

DCM 08-11-2009 08:04 AM

I actually agree with 4times on this one. Geared diffs isn't the b all and end all of the car. In some circumstances they can be a hindrance than a help.

mark christopher 08-11-2009 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4times (Post 307420)
In certain applications and on some tracks, it's my opinion that a molded chassis with more flex might make the car better. And, in some circumstances, lighter ball diffs may have a considerable advantage over the heavier metal gears. So, I have to respectfully disagree with your generalization.

Anyway, I'm not trying to argue with anyone on this or take anything away from the current version, I was just wondering if anyone knew about a release date or time frame for the budget version. Tough crowd in this thread :confused:

respectfully i never made comment about the chassis!!
but see below
Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 307423)
I actually agree with 4times on this one. Geared diffs isn't the b all and end all of the car. In some circumstances they can be a hindrance than a help.

so you have run the car with gear diffs to come to that conclusion?

mine is more consistant, reguires no maintanence of diffs, and they work as the car is getting good results, of road is not a restricted power class, a soft chassis can also hide a poor set up.......... thats my conclusion and a proven facts!

mw02veg 08-11-2009 03:01 PM

u just got big trouble when u tweek the chassis :woot: and its not the easiest thing to find out if u have. i know of more than a few that have done this :p

Rebelrc 08-11-2009 10:04 PM

Last comment makes no sense?

bigred5765 08-11-2009 10:07 PM

how does it not??
i can read and under stand exactly what he is on about,makes perfect sence to me,

Rebelrc 08-11-2009 10:11 PM

What chasis (Plastic or ali) ?

bigred5765 08-11-2009 10:13 PM

well being as there is no plastic chassis for the durango,

Rebelrc 08-11-2009 10:14 PM

Well as you cannot tweak ali:yawn:

jhammond 08-11-2009 10:14 PM

I'm pretty sure it can! (At least: Show the effects of a tweaked chassis.)

bigred5765 08-11-2009 10:16 PM

why what make you say that,you can tweak ali, adam did one at the euros,

Rebelrc 08-11-2009 10:17 PM

Thats called bending

offroadrc 08-11-2009 10:17 PM

i don't now why they must bring out a cheaper version if you like this car, buy it, gear diffs with sillicon oil are the best, they last the longest i have a rc8te and this car has this kind of diffs to, it's a great thing that you can change the diffoil, it makes a lot of differents when tuning to different tracks

bigred5765 08-11-2009 10:18 PM

duh and then what happens to the car its tweeked,any curve bend in a chassis is a tweek,

Rebelrc 08-11-2009 10:24 PM

my understanding is that a tweaked chassis is a chassis that does not flex evenly or in a linear motion for eg (more bendy on the left cornering) but can still apear straight when unstressed when held against a straight edge
A bend in it is called broken ( polite )

bigred5765 08-11-2009 10:27 PM

nahh, a tweeked chassis is a chassis that gives uneven shock movements or droop, caused buy a twist or bend,resulting in the car handling like a bag of doo doo,

jhammond 08-11-2009 10:28 PM

Oh... You have to laugh.
:D

bigred5765 08-11-2009 10:30 PM

any way not so important in offroad, i went all tc there had to wash my mouth out then,

Rebelrc 08-11-2009 10:35 PM

What do you mean NAH!....I have just told you the correct answer Bigred and whats all this DUH about????? What your talking about is the characteristics displayed by exactly what i was on about.
OH and you spell it TWEAKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
not commenting any more on pretend chassis weirdness.

offroadrc 08-11-2009 10:36 PM

it's a good thing that those noizie balldiffs aren't in the durango, cose lots of cars make strange noizes when braking or accelerating. :D

Rebelrc 08-11-2009 10:39 PM

I remember my first Beer!:)

offroadrc 08-11-2009 10:42 PM

beer?

Rebelrc 08-11-2009 10:52 PM

I dont know about ali fatigue ive got oople fatigue on this thread
back on topic
i personally need the balldiffs to be released cause the gear diffs are far too heavy for stock racing I do in a hall just bigger than a badminton court....i need bags of aggressive punch
so instead i might have too fire up my original prototype durango 2005 balldiffed animal:)

stox217 08-11-2009 10:54 PM

tweek is another word for bent when the alui baseplate has moved from the original shape. (mardave term)

Rebelrc 08-11-2009 10:59 PM

Surely that is bent
Oh well Mardave are right and the aviation industry must be wrong

COCK A DOO DAL DOO!!!!!!!!!

offroadrc 08-11-2009 11:02 PM

mokaay

stox217 08-11-2009 11:05 PM

tweek = no stressmarks (but the baseplate has been reshaped)
bend = stressmarks (white cracks in the aluminium on the bend)

Rebelrc 08-11-2009 11:13 PM

Get a life stox
you can bend ali with out (white stress marks ) cracks
so the new durango must have the front and rear kick up tweaked into it ...lol...&....lol
we are speaking on two very different levels
but anyway you can win this argument because i cant be bothered to type any more
LOL:)

bigred5765 08-11-2009 11:19 PM

sorry about the spelling mistake,
tweak,tweek.bend,stress marks, what ever,does it really matter what term is used,only matters in 2d racing, were talking 3d, lol

Rebelrc 08-11-2009 11:23 PM

OH well Lots of fun...toy cars mate ....just toy cars...see ya soon
bed time i think

mark christopher 09-11-2009 01:18 AM

an alloy chassis can cause tweek, by taking an impact the chassis bends/flexes/etc and often by releasing points mounted to it it will spring back flat, this is common in ic on road ( which i do) indeed you can slack a top deck, twist the chassis, retighten and have a tweeked car.
when alloy flex's its not bent where it is throw away, infact on sever occasions a big hammer can be used.

by the same token a plastic or carbon chassis can tweek weather flexi or stiff.

mark christopher 09-11-2009 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebelrc (Post 307766)
I dont know about ali fatigue ive got oople fatigue on this thread
back on topic
i personally need the balldiffs to be released cause the gear diffs are far too heavy for stock racing I do in a hall just bigger than a badminton court....i need bags of aggressive punch
so instead i might have too fire up my original prototype durango 2005 balldiffed animal:)

so you think they should produce a ball diff for you as you race a limited motor class?
why not change your class to run mens motors?:p

Rebelrc 09-11-2009 08:20 AM

Hello Mark:)
the club is Faversham
and has been running for nearly thirty years
the hall is very small but the racing is extremely competative, it often has 50 drivers attend weekly.......:thumbsup:
shame to change that
Mens motors...LOL......theres nothing manly about any toy cars or sides of the sport....lol
i mean its hardly a chat up line is it i race (play) with toy cars
:)

DCM 09-11-2009 09:13 AM

Mark, mark, mark, the world does not revolve around large tracks, there are lots of places that need to run a milder motor, for instance. And as much as it is a 'radical departure' from the norm, the selling point of the Durango, is the 'no compromise' layout, finishing touches like the CVD boots etc. Diffs are just a tuning aide, some people will like the edgy feel of a geared diff, some will prefer the feel a ball diff will give.

Some.... might just think that the price is too much, no matter how much they like the kit. Just got to accept, because you run that car, it may not appeal to everyone, or, dare I say.... agree with you.


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