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Big G 29-08-2009 10:40 PM

Removing the tyres off wheels that have been superglued on
 
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So with my B44 I got a box full of knackered old tyres that had been superglued on 360 degrees around the wheel. great...

most of them were bald as they come, but the wheels were in pretty good nick. I'd previously managed to superglue my SC10 wheels to my jeans so I googled removing superglue and found it's weakness is Acertone. Naturally as with most chemicals it's not on the shelf in asda (other supermarkets are available), but what is also said was acertone is the common ingredient in nail varnish remover. so off to the supermarket I went and straight to the missus's favourite isle. 77p a bottle for 250ml. 5 bottles later. Oh, btw. They also do a Acertone free version for fake nails the missus tells me. don't buy that one. I'm assuming it won't work + it's like 4 times the price.
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I didn't expect the tyres to magically fall off once they came in contact with the NVR as I'd tried that with a drop between cells before. so I filled up a pot I found in the kitchen and popped them in. The fronts I was trialling had been sliced down the middle and the foams removed from them by the previous owner. stacked on top of eachother with a weight on the top they were ready to be submerged in NVR.

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It's actually clear when you put them in. I guess all the glue and dirt made it go this colour.

I tried pulling the tyres off a few days later and they sort of started to come off so I aided it with a screw driver and ripped the tyre. I gave up then and popped them back in the NVR. It's important to seal the tub as the NVR evaporates really fast.

So 2 weeks passed and I'd completely forgotten about the wheels until tonight. so I fished them out of the tub and pulled the tyre much to my surprise it just pulled clean off the wheel. jackpot! Same with the other. 2 weeks of stewing in NVR worked.

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The tub I used holds 2 front wheels nicely, but rears we all know are wider so I had to upgrade the tub.

If you want to save the foams cut the tyre and remove them. this also lets the NVR get at both sides of the superglue which I can only guess helps it work better.

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In they go. And they float. So I pinched some stones off the drive to keep them submerged.

http://i937.photobucket.com/albums/a...t/IMG_3593.jpg

And there we go. 2 weeks I'm sure I'll be able to just pull the tyres off the wheels :D

DCM 29-08-2009 10:51 PM

here's a little tip, they don't need to be imersed, just use a tub that is air tight sealed, put 10mm in the bottom, drop wheels and tyres in, 24 hours later, tyres should come off the rims. Chuck rims in with the laundry, and super clean wheels too!.

Rich D 29-08-2009 11:00 PM

Nice write up dude - if you just buy some acetone from Ebay - place the tyres and Acetone in an old biscuit container overnight, they pull straight off the rims the next morning.

As said above - you dont need to submerge the rims and you can use the same Acetone many times. No need to cut the tyres - you can even re use them if you wish.

Most of the guys on here have been using Acetone for years. :thumbsup:

Big G 29-08-2009 11:14 PM

I found after 2 days of then in there the tyres wouldn't come off. maybe my NVR isn't very strong. pure acertone will probably work a lot better.

wow never thought about ebay. it's quite cheap off there. I'll give it a shot with that stuff. cheers

DCM 29-08-2009 11:21 PM

it works better, with the vapour attacking the glue rather than the liquid.

tymill 30-08-2009 01:01 AM

I usually just boil the rims to remove tyres - works perfectly and you've got de-tyred rims in 30 minutes.

I've found the best container to boil them in is an old 9" aluminium pie tin - they're nice and wide so you can easily fit 6 or 8 rims in at once. (and you're unlikely to annoy anyone by using nice cooking pots)

Basically, cut away as much of the tyre as you can and salvage the foams (unless you've used schumacher blue foams which inevitably disintegrate into a fine powder!:bored:).

Next put about 2cms of water in the pie tin and boil the rims for 15 minutes.

Turn the rims over and boil for another 15 minutes.

The tire remains will pop right off and any superglue residue will become a brittle yellow crust that you can easily flake off with a hobby knife.

Done!:thumbsup:

NB - some types of plastics do not handle the heat well - I've experienced cracking around the inner rims with yellow Tamiya rims and Ballistic Buggy rims.

I've boiled Associated, Losi, Proline, and JC Racing Fastraxx rims with no problems at all.

I agree that acetone is a good way to go - but for instant gratification boiling works for me.

Cheers,
Ty

Marvin 30-08-2009 08:17 AM

I've used the cooking method of tyre removal. Put the oven on to 200C, put the wheels/tyres in there for ~5-10 minutes then turn the oven off. Leave the wheels/tyres in. After another 10 minutes remove the wheels/tyres, and the tyres should pull right off the rims.

Chequered Flag Racing 30-08-2009 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marvin (Post 280007)
I've used the cooking method of tyre removal. Put the oven on to 200C, put the wheels/tyres in there for ~5-10 minutes then turn the oven off. Leave the wheels/tyres in. After another 10 minutes remove the wheels/tyres, and the tyres should pull right off the rims.

Works for me also. But use about 125c.

Just make sure the misses is out as the smell isn't as nice as a joint of beef cooking:lol:

Paulmay79 04-09-2009 01:58 PM

I did mine yesterday. It took 3 hours to get rid of the tyre remains acetone is deffo the way to do it.

Big G 04-09-2009 03:26 PM

I tried boiling some and it worked well on 2 wheels and didn't work at all on the other 2 :bored:

popped them into the NVR to finish them off.

Rich D 04-09-2009 04:28 PM

Just try some pure Acetone - you'll never bother with the oven or NVR again. I use an old washing up brush to scrub the remnants of the glue from the rims - they come out like new every time.

Oscar 10-09-2009 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich D (Post 279976)
. No need to cut the tyres - you can even re use them if you wish.

Just be aware a few types of tyre don't like Acetone, Schumacher greens for example go all hard and plasticky (if plasticky is actually a word ??:blush: :confused: )

Big G 10-09-2009 10:53 AM

usually they're at the point where the tyres will never be used again. but thanks for the tip.

Rich D 10-09-2009 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oscar (Post 284895)
Just be aware a few types of tyre don't like Acetone, Schumacher greens for example go all hard and plasticky (if plasticky is actually a word ??:blush: :confused: )


Ok cheers - ive never used Schuey greens. Im mainly removing Shuey yellow compound :)

Dazzler 10-09-2009 05:20 PM

I found cutting them down the middle, removing the inserts and boiling them, followed by a quick spin in the washing machine spot on.. Cutting them down the middle not only salvaged the inserts, but also gave me something to grab hold of when they were still hot (maybe a little impatient) :woot:

Chris-S 10-09-2009 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazzler (Post 285082)
I found cutting them down the middle, removing the inserts and boiling them, followed by a quick spin in the washing machine spot on.. Cutting them down the middle not only salvaged the inserts, but also gave me something to grab hold of when they were still hot (maybe a little impatient) :woot:

Same here, 15mins in boiling water and they are ready to come off. Quick go t round with the dremel to remove any glue remenants.

dodgydiy 11-09-2009 08:39 PM

big question is, where to get decent acetone!

CBRDEAN0 11-09-2009 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgydiy (Post 285719)
big question is, where to get decent acetone!

bigred5765 was doing a kit with a tub and acetone.

Chris-S 12-09-2009 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dodgydiy (Post 285719)
big question is, where to get decent acetone!

Car bodyshops may still use it. I know any company working the carbon fibre will use it.

Rich D 12-09-2009 12:06 PM

Ebay :)

mark christopher 12-09-2009 12:10 PM

paint suppliers
chemical specialists
ben on here had some too

saintnitro 12-09-2009 12:50 PM

i got some from work after reading this post.

well i knew that the stuff we have at work was real strong stuff so i thought i would try it on some old tamiya tyers. so i put some in a thimble put that and the tyres in a sealed box and left it overnight.
well when i got up went and checked on them, all was left was the tyres:woot: the wheels themself had totaly melted it just left the tyres and inserts:woot::woot: i think it needs thining out abit....... but it got the tyres of the rims:thumbsup:

Ginge

mdb_75 14-09-2009 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saintnitro (Post 285945)
all was left was the tyres:woot: the wheels themself had totaly melted it just left the tyres and inserts:woot::woot: i think it needs thining out abit....... but it got the tyres of the rims:thumbsup:

Ginge


:lol::lol::lol::lol: Brilliant!

saintnitro 14-09-2009 06:09 PM

i know:thumbsup::thumbsup: its some good s@@@ :p:p it maid my eyes water:cry:

Ginge

paulc 14-09-2009 06:34 PM

:lol::lol:

tymill 16-09-2009 05:43 PM

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Decided to give acetone a go - and it works pretty well.

Made these very simple but effective acetone vats from cut off 2 litre bottles, rubber bands and bits of carrier bag. Works fine. The best bit is how it keeps the tyres out of the sticky gunge of the old acetone at the bottom in the "feet" of the bottle.:thumbsup:

I did notice that the tyres at the bottom of the stack are seem to be ready sooner, but the fumes definitely go everywhere in time...
http://www.oople.com/forums/attachme...1&d=1253122788
Cheers,
Ty

stumpiey 16-10-2009 12:33 PM

you can get acetone from any Glass fibre place, be aware that acetone burns with a clear flame and has a flash point of 3 i think (petrol is about 6), also some plastic's will be turned to goo.

ben 16-10-2009 08:45 PM

Ive got loads of the stuff £10 for a gallon. Got containers now (thanks mark). PM me if you guys are interested.

BJ

daz 16-10-2009 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tymill (Post 287644)
Decided to give acetone a go - and it works pretty well.

Made these very simple but effective acetone vats from cut off 2 litre bottles, rubber bands and bits of carrier bag. Works fine. The best bit is how it keeps the tyres out of the sticky gunge of the old acetone at the bottom in the "feet" of the bottle.:thumbsup:

I did notice that the tyres at the bottom of the stack are seem to be ready sooner, but the fumes definitely go everywhere in time...
http://www.oople.com/forums/attachme...1&d=1253122788
Cheers,
Ty

Looks like a molotov cocktail :lol:

bigred5765 16-10-2009 09:18 PM

na tire pickling jars lol,you need a paint tin with sealable lid b&q sells them, but then so do i,

tymill 17-10-2009 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stumpiey (Post 298986)
some plastic's will be turned to goo.

True! try dropping a styrofoam cup into acetone... it will quickly morph into a small blob of snot-like slime...

Making slime like this is deffo one of the kids' favourite practicals when we teach polymers in year 10!:thumbsup:

reg 17-10-2009 10:47 AM

i cooked some off yesterday,only takes half hour,wheels are good as newish lol,even the inserts are good:thumbsup:

weeman 17-10-2009 11:19 AM

Old stock pot...Boiling water....Cap full of bleach(lavender scented) Pinch of salt and pepper...lid on....leave for an hour on simmer and hey presto...Spotlessly clean tyres and rims plus house wont stink of rubber..Salt and pepper optional! :p

deepdale11 17-10-2009 02:40 PM

As i want to keep the tyres not the rims, will acetone still do the trick???

tymill 19-10-2009 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by deepdale11 (Post 299309)
As i want to keep the tyres not the rims, will acetone still do the trick???

I should imagine so, but boiling certainly seems less risky imho.

Acetone sometimes leaves a thin crusty haze of thinned-out CA glue around the beads and sides of the tyres in my experience. Boiling will just make the glue get brittle and it then flakes off the tyre bead without spreading around. ymmv...:D

rc_dan 19-10-2009 08:40 PM

just tried the boiling method, 20mins and thay come off, tyres rims and foams can be re used brill :) top tip

deepdale11 19-10-2009 10:11 PM

ok thanks, i will try it.....

ben 20-10-2009 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tymill (Post 300102)
I should imagine so, but boiling certainly seems less risky imho.

Acetone sometimes leaves a thin crusty haze of thinned-out CA glue around the beads and sides of the tyres in my experience. Boiling will just make the glue get brittle and it then flakes off the tyre bead without spreading around. ymmv...:D

Must be shite acetone then :thumbsup:

tymill 20-10-2009 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ben (Post 300520)
Must be shite acetone then :thumbsup:

Possibly... more likely an impatient wheel-owner that's swished around the mucky acetone/CA yellowishness at the bottom of the jar over the wheels and let it dry there!:blush:

Charlie Ware 21-10-2009 08:17 PM

Where to buy acetone?
 
you can get acetone off the counters, at any chemists, you can buy as much or as little as you want.

Charlie


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