TRF511 2009 euros winning setup
 

Here's the winning setup from the 2009 Euros. This is Hupos setup - which is the same for the other guys cars including eventual winner Marc Rheinard, since hupo setup all the cars like his.

Man, that setup sheet sucks - I need to design a new one with all the options on there :thumbdown:

never mind... I think they guys also ran 12 degree alloy front hub carriers. Hupo ran the new flex topdecks but the other guys ran normal. All the drivers ran the new grey ball cups. Think that's about it.

Jimmy , what kind of inserts did they used?.. Any idea of the shock lengths ( limiters or not and how much)

Great report by the way.... sorry SUPER EXCELLENT report :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
Do you have also HUPO's 2WD set-up ?

Cheers

I don't know what he settled on, he had some trishbits and some edit foams - not sure what the guys ended up with.
Actually, I do have the winning B4 setup also: using Tamiya shocks and Trishbits hopups.

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/euros2009/hupob4.jpg

What springs are they using? My Tamiya option springs are all white in colour but the sheets above imply that "Tam" springs are available in actual colours to match their strength... the all white scheme is really, really dumb IMHO.

The 3 grades of Tamiya springs are all white, but have either Red, Yellow or Blue dabs of paint on the tops of them. Hard to see, especially if they have rubbed off. I use permanant marker pens to mark them better.

Wow, really surprised at how hard they ran springs wise actually, how much lead were they running, any idea Jimmy?

I didn't see any - but I'll have a look at the photos I got

tires
 

What kind of tires they used in the Euro?
I thought Schumacher, but they wrote HA.
Guy.

Jimmy, could you post the photo's of the 3 TRF cars

And is the tech chart available of the 4WD A final?

Does any one knows which are those white ball studs Hupo was using ?I wonder if it's Losi's or RPM ones. I would like to try.

Just out of interest! these setup`s are the drivers setup`s for the designed course/track! so how would they benefit anyone else? I understand the fixtures and fittings side but buggy setup is surely from testing the track / surface and setup so the buggy handles well for its enviroment/bumps/ramps/camber etc... is this just an interest thing or am i missing something?

<<<< total boon! Andy ;)

Helps anyone going to race at THAT track of course - and generally applies to similar high grip bumpy tracks. If you're racing on a smooth dirt track in the USA then there's very little interest - I'll be copying this setup to try it that's for sure.:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Like Jimmy said, on a similar track, it would get you in the ball park, setup wise, but if it isn't a similar type of track, just a curiosity thing.

Does it matter to you anyway? from what i hear you would have to put the theory in reverse???

A little (well ok quite plump) bird tells me you tend to drive the wrong way around tracks anyhow!!!!!! :p

Right! thats Shanks soon to be added to my list!!

:p

Does anyone know what motor timing and ESC profile Hupo uses?

Does anyone have info about the shocks the TRF guys used @ the euros?

-how many o-rings? (I know Jilles used 2 blue o-rings in every shock, but he was not at the euros;))
-blue, clear or red o-rings?
-limiters front and rear?
-machined pistons or molded?

As a note to anyone trying this setup, you either need to do it with the rear diff low (not high as in the manual) or add several mm of limiters to the rear shocks above the kit manual limiter, I did a cvd pin, outdrive and scratched all the bulkheads at the back today finding that out!!

Hum, I put new parts on my 501x getting it ready for next months race.
However I'm uncertain if Hupo's 511 setup will work on my car.:yawn:
Jimmy do you happen to have his old 501 setup? I need a setup for high traction clay.
I tried 35 wt in the front and 25 wt in the rear and that worked ok. But I'm thinking 35wt all 4 corners would be even better.
I have been using associated shock oil the clear kind.

Hey mate, Hupos Euros winning car setup from 2007 on clay is here:

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/euros...07EC-Vaasa.htm


it's linked with another from mike west in the race report from that event.
:thumbsup:

Thanks Jimmy.:thumbsup:

Does Jimmy or anyone know what the equivalent rear camber link (upper control arm) geometry would be with the plastic rear hubs for the Euros set-up?
Also Does anyone know how many rear damper limiters are required to run that set-up? Thanks in advance.

I dunno all these setup are driving me insane...I think Im going to try the stock setup on the 501x WE and go from there. Ive always used 35F and 30R for oil but the pistons up front are smaller so maybe 30WT all around may be better. I will be using the AE springs though.

Which pistons are you using?

What pistons were they running as i have no number four pistons?

3's up front and 4's in rear

Tamiya do 1,2 & 3 so what make are they using as it isnt tamiya.

Yes it is. The standard setup kit items are 3 & 4. The 511 comes with 3-5 on the piston tree (item 51281).

James

2x1.3mm (3) in front and 2x1.4mm (4) in the rear?

or

#3 Tamiya piston would be Option item 53977... http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=53977

#4 piston would be Option item 53978... http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/ite...oduct-id=53978

I was talked about it :)

At the moment I'm starting to dislike Tamiya again (this time its not the bad quality plastics like before) due to this confusion.

When you get a kit the pistons with all manufacturers are piston 1, 2 and 3 so why have Tamiya got 3, 4 and five? Its really daft.

So then what pistons did Lee use at the Petit event as he used number two all over, unless that means the second (middle) piston in the kit. Does anyone know.

no...my kit came with 3's and 4's (501x wce)...so I put the 3's up front and 4's in the rear but I also ordered more separately and also have 1.2's. Im assuming the 3's=1.3 and the 4's=1.4

It's this one, the one jimmy posted 2 months ago.:)

It's dated 2007 but still works well. Being 3 years old has nothing to do with it.
If not Aaron can surely help you out.

Has anyone tried the kyosho pistons? I heard they fit.
But's it's probably not a good idea, just a thought.:bored: