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cmgreen 14-03-2007 04:01 PM

4WD MKI-4
 
Seems like theres another xx-4 take off around.
Any one seen one of these in action?


http://www.iq-tuning.ch/en/4wdmki-4.html

footey 14-03-2007 04:09 PM

i think this is what tyrc is selling:confused:

BenG 14-03-2007 06:54 PM

Hi, I am getting my first MKI4 this week, will let you know how good it is;)

ryan 14-03-2007 07:45 PM

i think it looks pretty impressive, would like to race it and compare it to a xx4 some time:p

Ryan

jimmy 14-03-2007 07:47 PM

I've a load of photos of this car, I will try put them up tonight

BenG 14-03-2007 07:52 PM

Ryan PM me;)

andys 14-03-2007 10:32 PM

Hasn't this car / conversion thing being around for ages, I saw this site ages ago. Does the name indicate it's version 4 ?

It does look a bit 'Scrap-Heap Challenge' to me though

PS TYRC this is not a dig / flame etc, just a comment.

BenG 15-03-2007 09:02 AM

hehe, scrap heap challenge with carbon fiber?

Sounds good:D

SCOTT DICKINSON 15-03-2007 10:33 PM

I realy like it:)
i saw it also a while back
and markus has emailed me a couple of times then all went quiet...
glad to see its back and looks like its doing very well over seas
Markus if your reading this WELL DONE MATE
keep me posted:)

MattW 15-03-2007 10:55 PM

Yeah seen the car before, the guy was at the Belgian GP last year i think. Had a look at the car in his pit.

jimmy 16-03-2007 12:51 AM

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/spy-mki4/

BenG 16-03-2007 10:31 AM

Got my MKI4 today, only ordered it on Monday, and its here. I will be building and reviewing it tonight, I cant wait.

Heres a few things I noticed when I ripped open the box this morning:
- The amount of parts used is amazing, great value
- All parts are cracking quality
- You get a screw driver with it ;):D

daz 16-03-2007 02:59 PM

Bit bloody expensive at £350!!!! To say all it is, is a XX4 clone

BenG 16-03-2007 03:02 PM

I wouldn't say a clone, rather, an improvement.

With the MKi4 you get tonnes of extras, like hop-ups, dirtsheilds e.t.c, plus the crash back arms, that are going to save me money, and from losing races. Also, it adds the functionality, that you can use parts from several cars.

I like it;)

jimmy 16-03-2007 03:04 PM

For a low volume exclusive car of any description - you are going to be paying a premium over what everyone else is running.

Nick Goodall 16-03-2007 03:27 PM

I guess it's completely un-proven so the cost / value for money doesn't even come into it until the car's being used in the UK and getting results - that's the only way it will sell to be fair.

BenG 16-03-2007 03:33 PM

dont worry, I am looking for Uk drivers, and the car will come with a set-up by a well known, whoop ass, Uk driver ;)

Nick Goodall 16-03-2007 04:13 PM

Who? lol, i don't know of anyone that runs this car??

BenG 16-03-2007 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Goodall (Post 29236)
Who? lol, i don't know of anyone that runs this car??

They wont be running it, they will just be setting it up;)

Nick Goodall 16-03-2007 04:37 PM

That's quite difficult without running it to be honest...... :wtf:

DCM 16-03-2007 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daz (Post 29222)
Bit bloody expensive at £350!!!! To say all it is, is a XX4 clone

I think that is just a little unfair, the guy has done what lots of people think of doing with the XX4, ditching it's drivetrain, and with this, the weight distribution and layou has been kept the same, plus I think it is the best of both worlds.

Proof will be in the running though.

Funkymojo 16-03-2007 06:19 PM

I think the design looks good...the parts looks pretty well made too...i wouldnt mind racing one....Markus Heini, the designer and maker of the MKI-4 is a really nice chap too, i've emailed him..he know's what he's doing and is very friendly with his replies...Cheers ;)

BenG 17-03-2007 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick Goodall (Post 29240)
That's quite difficult without running it to be honest...... :wtf:


They won't be running it for the full season I meant. I am 1/3rd of the way through building my MKI4, and I like it.

Sebastian 21-03-2007 07:35 PM

Hi guys. I got an MKI-4 a while ago for a review in Racer Germany. Here are some pics in my tamiyaclub.com showroom. http://tamiyaclub.com/showroom_model...7089&sid=14186 Feel free to ask questions about it.

I raced it last weekend at a smaller indoor race in Nothern Germany and I was able to pull the most constant laps with it. It wasn't the fastest but the most consistent. I stood on P2 for the finals but due to my conservative style of driving and a broken crash back arm I dropped to P5 in the final standing.

Cheers

Seb

BenG 21-03-2007 09:52 PM

wow Sabastien, I love your shell and yellow wheels.....


They are cool...

I have nearly finished mine, and will be makign a few adjustments to creating my own edition, a few CNC parts I guess ;)

Thanks,

BEn

Funkymojo 21-03-2007 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by www.tyrc.co.uk (Post 29991)
wow Sabastien, I love your shell and yellow wheels.....


They are cool...

I have nearly finished mine, and will be makign a few adjustments to creating my own edition, a few CNC parts I guess ;)

Thanks,

BEn


Wow would love to see what adjustments you gonna make, cos as far as i see, the MKI4 is already as good as it is...:D

DCM 21-03-2007 11:31 PM

There are some areas that, structuraly needs sorting, and others, astheticaly plus using common threads, not imperial or metric. The idea is good, it needs finishing.

Sebastian 22-03-2007 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by www.tyrc.co.uk (Post 29991)
wow Sabastien, I love your shell and yellow wheels.....
I have nearly finished mine, and will be makign a few adjustments to creating my own edition, a few CNC parts I guess

Thanks, Ben.

I agree that it could need a few tewaks here and there. I'd like to get rid of the "woodscrews" or what ever you call it for some proper hex screws. And, most important, I would like to see the middle bulkhead (the part where the layshafts and the motor are attached) in "Hudy style" black alloy. Nicely milled to safe weight but strong enough to hold the hold and the keep the motor even cooler. :)

And Ben: you should do yourself a favour and create some cover for the rear diff! Grab a decal sheet and cut it to slide over the outdrives so that it fit onto the pulley. The "uncovered" diff is the only week point I discovered so far. :(

Cheers

Seb

BenG 22-03-2007 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sebastian (Post 30026)
Thanks, Ben.

I agree that it could need a few tewaks here and there. I'd like to get rid of the "woodscrews" or what ever you call it for some proper hex screws. And, most important, I would like to see the middle bulkhead (the part where the layshafts and the motor are attached) in "Hudy style" black alloy. Nicely milled to safe weight but strong enough to hold the hold and the keep the motor even cooler. :)

And Ben: you should do yourself a favour and create some cover for the rear diff! Grab a decal sheet and cut it to slide over the outdrives so that it fit onto the pulley. The "uncovered" diff is the only week point I discovered so far. :(

Cheers

Seb

Thanks mate.

I had already those in mind, plus maybe new shock towers e.t.c

xx4-nutter 22-03-2007 05:20 PM

i think the car looks cool, but i think the xx4 is still FAR supriour to this .....

the car looks very "90s" ? / yokomo yz10 ish ?:confused: .. maybe just me but i dunno not too keen on this, dont look too bad or good either..

Garry D.

Col 22-03-2007 08:47 PM

So from what I can make out, this car runs XX4 shocks and geometry? Set-up should be exactly the same as a XX4 and X5 then. There you go ben - job done!!;)

Mr. Ideas 22-03-2007 09:40 PM

Hi senior & junior racers!

Let me drop some lines from it's designer point of view :cool: It uses the SAME suspension as the XX-4 (except the rear damper rod is 1.0" and not 1.2" as the XX-4) - dampers, parts, same geometrie. So it handles & drives as a XX-4 WE - and I like that:) The MKI-4 has some goodies that the XX-4 has not: Roll-Center adjustable (can move all 4 blue suspension holders up & down), much better motor cooling and of course faster acceleration & higher top speed.
It's faster & more robust & takes less care time & has more setup-possibilies than the XX-4 WE. Shall we try Garry?;)

One very valuable setup possibility is that You can change the rear roll-center within 2 min. I often raise it by 1-2 mm and this quickens steering & gives more grip in turns. Sometimes I mount the BJ-4 front hub (as run @ the Euros 2006) -> drives as a BJ-4 Worlds.
By the way: The MKI-4 is as fast as the BJ-4 Worlds (current World Champ). In Switzerland (where I live) everyone sees that when looking at these cars. 2006 it was my driver error what let me loose the 2nd consecutive Swiss Champ title - 2005 1st, 2006 2nd place with the MKI-4.

Last but not least: I have fun & it makes fun!
Last week I run it on low grip asphalt outdoors with a similar setup (removed anti-roll bars, softer springs, a bit higher) as I used before on high grip carpet indoors - and it's cool again, it's fun & fast!:)

Markus

super__dan 05-04-2007 04:47 PM

Ben,

sooooooooooooo?

NeilD 05-04-2007 06:46 PM

The car doesn't look "right" i can't explain but on initial impressions i don't like it. (Blinkered, maybe...)

BenG 05-04-2007 10:14 PM

I have built it, lets just say I won't be selling it.

I will run it and see what its like.

Thanks.

tc2k 05-04-2007 10:19 PM

The shell looks rank but the chassis looks nice

losidan 10-04-2007 08:06 PM

i quite like the whole look...including the shell

Funkymojo 22-04-2007 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by www.tyrc.co.uk (Post 32062)
I have built it, lets just say I won't be selling it.

I will run it and see what its like.

Thanks.

Hi matey..so how's the buggy? You were saying that you wanna make some custom parts for it right? Not selling it anymore? Any reviews? This thread is kinda quiet...i see that you are posting more in the Aero thread...LOL

losidan 22-04-2007 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Funkymojo (Post 34861)
Hi matey..so how's the buggy? You were saying that you wanna make some custom parts for it right? Not selling it anymore? Any reviews? This thread is kinda quiet...i see that you are posting more in the Aero thread...LOL

i think it might be a bit of a sore point but come on ben...spill the beans

BenG 23-04-2007 05:02 PM

Yes this car is a whopping great sore point.


It cost me £376 (I could of got an Aero A-One :(:(:(:(:(, which has really peed me off).

Instead I got:

-A cardbox filled with a printed (as in normal computer printed), microsoft word made manual, several pounds worth of AE and losi bits, and these really cool woodscrews, with the worlds best cross heads :mad:

-The thinnest carbon money can buy, it flexes if you breathe on it.

- The transmission is soooooooo tight, its unbleivable.

- The shell sucks, and has a 2 holes wider than the atlantic ocean

- The 'structural' parts are, roughly(to say the least) cut from acrylic, and the kick-up plate is just bent aluminum.

And I was sooo happy that for my £376 worth, I got some blue bits :D

The best thing is, the battery mount, which I am using, temporarily on my prototype car, and the body mounts, which arent off the MKI4 anyway, I think they are Losi Items.

Add to this lot, my dad keeps telling me how stupid a buy was, and throwing more salt on my wound, then Aero racing release the A one, which I would have so bought and had money left over, which is the equivalent of 500 portions of mcdonalds fries been pored on the seething gash the MKI4 left on me. :D:D


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