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bald eagle 15-07-2009 11:29 AM

Iphone...
 
Just bought an iphone. (havent got it yet) was just wondering if the fellow ooplers can help...
I want to know if the upgrade to firmware/software 3.0 is free. Iphone version i will receive is 3g 16gb new in box from fleebay.
any useful info/tips much appreciated.
;)

burgie 15-07-2009 11:39 AM

The software updates are free, and are installed via iTunes. The whole process took around 45 minutes when I didmine.

I think the iphone is great - I am sat here at victoria park, southport, preparing for the national and replying onoople with mine. There are things it doesn't do without jail breaking that other phones do, but the only people who point those out don't have an iPhone but usually want one!!!!

Lee 15-07-2009 11:40 AM

You dont have to jail break them now, with 3.0 you get an option to use your iphone as a modem :D

jono83 15-07-2009 11:41 AM

yep it is jus connect to it to itunes and it will detect you need the update and jus click apply. its about 300mb so it may take a while.

jono83 15-07-2009 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by burgie (Post 264745)
The software updates are free, and are installed via iTunes. The whole process took around 45 minutes when I didmine.

I think the iphone is great - I am sat here at victoria park, southport, preparing for the national and replying onoople with mine. There are things it doesn't do without jail breaking that other phones do, but the only people who point those out don't have an iPhone but usually want one!!!!

can you jail break OS3.0? is it worth doing?

bald eagle 15-07-2009 11:55 AM

Thanks for the info guys, my second question was goijng to be, is it worht jailbraking it?.. but i guess with mine having a 12 month warranty with apple, i best wait till that runs out anyway.

burgie 15-07-2009 12:48 PM

Apparently you can still jailbreak the iPhone, but it has nothing to do with using it as a modem/Internet connection for your laptop, it is more to do with enabling video recording ant camera zooms. However, I think there are now apps that enable both those things anyway. I don't know for sure as I don't video stuff on the iPhone and the photos it takes are perfectly good enough for what I want.

craigosh 15-07-2009 12:56 PM

The video off the phone is crap to be honest, from what i've seen on my mates Jailbroken phone. Best thing in my opinion is that it allows you to make skype calls over the 3G, which seeing as i have family in america is a huge bonus. But i'd still wait for the warranty to run out before you do it!

Southwell 15-07-2009 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 264748)
You dont have to jail break them now, with 3.0 you get an option to use your iphone as a modem :D

Only £15 a month from our friends at O2. :cry::lol:

mikeyscott 15-07-2009 01:33 PM

I'm looking at a 3G / 3Gs for Vodafone. So I'll have to jail break it from what I understand.

Use a Palm Treo Pro at the mo, mainly to connect to MS Exchange

How good is the Exchange connectivity with the iPhone?

blue_pinky 15-07-2009 01:39 PM

I gave my iphone to one of our IT guys when I started working here, within 2 mins I was getting mail from our server using Exchange ActiveSync, been working perfectly ever since which is about a year ago now :-)

Southwell 15-07-2009 01:41 PM

You just put the exchange server name in and your username and password.

mikeyscott 15-07-2009 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Southwell (Post 264782)
You just put the exchange server name in and your username and password.

How does it connect? HTTPS? Is it push based?

Exchange connectivity is critical. That's the sole reason I'm still on MS Phones.

What about the GAL?

Can you have more than one email account set-up? I.e. a POP3 / IMAP account etc?

Mike

Southwell 15-07-2009 01:47 PM

Sorry dude, cant help further as i don't run mine on Exchange. Sure someone else will though.

blue_pinky 15-07-2009 01:49 PM

Yes, it is push based, I have 2 mail accounts set up on mine, 1 is pop, the other exchange, it does imap as well though.

mikeyscott 15-07-2009 01:51 PM

Cool.. time to ebay my Palm Treo Pro!

My only other concern is the keyboard. I've got a nice qwerty keyboard on the Palm that enables me to type very quickly.

Not confinced at times with fat finger touch screen devices (not that I'm fat!)

mikeyscott 15-07-2009 01:52 PM

Sorry please ignore. Badly written question

blue_pinky 15-07-2009 01:52 PM

Just having a play, you can only have 1 exchange account set up at a time.

No mention of HTTPS on the exchange settings, although it could be doing that in the background I guess?

mikeyscott 15-07-2009 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue_pinky (Post 264791)
Just having a play, you can only have 1 exchange account set up at a time.

No mention of HTTPS on the exchange settings, although it could be doing that in the background I guess?

Hope so as I want it secure (as email can be).. Even though I work with HTTPS inspection devices and we're advised not to do banking on our network due to the way they do a man in the middle inspection attack. ... Eeek :cry:

Think I'll head into the Apple store in Southampton and ask them. Thing I do prefer about MS phone devices is that you can do a remote wipe if they get lost (need Exchange etc.).

blue_pinky 15-07-2009 01:57 PM

Fat finger syndrome, in my experience the typing speed is really quick on iphone, though you can easily get errors....but....the predicitive text is really good at picking it up, and I find that I'm so slow typing on small keyboards that the extra speed of the touch screen makes up for time lost with spelling errors!

Though I have to say I think it's probably personal preference, may not suit everyone, but suits me just fine.

mikeyscott 15-07-2009 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blue_pinky (Post 264793)
Fat finger syndrome, in my experience the typing speed is really quick on iphone, though you can easily get errors....but....the predicitive text is really good at picking it up, and I find that I'm so slow typing on small keyboards that the extra speed of the touch screen makes up for time lost with spelling errors!

Though I have to say I think it's probably personal preference, may not suit everyone, but suits me just fine.

Again sounds like a trip to a shop to have a look. Then buy one from the US for my Vodafone account

This is my current one
http://www.palm.com/uk/en/products/p...pro/index.html

Lee 15-07-2009 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Southwell (Post 264778)
Only £15 a month from our friends at O2. :cry::lol:


If your in the UK :cry::cry::cry:

bigred5765 15-07-2009 04:19 PM

just been to the local o2 store, no confirmed date on the tom tom for the iphone, but navagon is out right now and is available from the iphone downloads £58 for UK Ireland etc £78 for Europe and must say it looks good,

Martin-Barbour 15-07-2009 04:42 PM

iPhone
 
Exchange support works really well, all contacts, calendar, emails and folders sync up without any sort of complicated madness.

There is a bug with exchange support and OS3.0 where the iPhone appears to forget about the exchange account for a few minutes before it all reappears again, something to do with the way it handles certificates, but it's been reported on a number of forums so will hopefully be fixed in the next release.
I've had a 3GS for about 1 month now and have only seen this bug once.

I've currently got 4 email accounts setup on mine, exchange, 2x POP and IMAP, all work well.

The keyboard software has some cool predictive text tricks which monitor your keystrokes and movements between strokes, so even if you don't actually hit the right keys more often than not it will write the correct word. This actually works really well...

Leaving all of your Push and data connections switched on can be very expensive when overseas, it's worthwhile switching that off before you take off unless you've got one of the discount data bundles.

Hope some of this helps....

pro4nut 19-07-2009 09:30 PM

even with with a discount bundle it will be unlikely to include data roaming which is charged at about a pound per meg in europe, up to 7 outside of eec

Martin-Barbour 19-07-2009 09:58 PM

iphone
 
They do a roaming data bundle, it's still expensive though.........

http://www.o2.co.uk/sme/businesstariffs/boltons

pro4nut 21-07-2009 06:20 PM

thats only for sme customers, not consumer

Martin-Barbour 21-07-2009 07:00 PM

No it's not.

www.o2.co.uk

Choose an iPhone as a consumer Pay Monthly customer, click Add to Basket then add your Data Abroad Bolt On.

Simples

pro4nut 21-07-2009 07:06 PM

fair play times change, thanks for that though!!

mikeyscott 27-07-2009 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Martin-Barbour (Post 264860)
Exchange support works really well, all contacts, calendar, emails and folders sync up without any sort of complicated madness.

There is a bug with exchange support and OS3.0 where the iPhone appears to forget about the exchange account for a few minutes before it all reappears again, something to do with the way it handles certificates, but it's been reported on a number of forums so will hopefully be fixed in the next release.
I've had a 3GS for about 1 month now and have only seen this bug once.

I've currently got 4 email accounts setup on mine, exchange, 2x POP and IMAP, all work well.

The keyboard software has some cool predictive text tricks which monitor your keystrokes and movements between strokes, so even if you don't actually hit the right keys more often than not it will write the correct word. This actually works really well...

Leaving all of your Push and data connections switched on can be very expensive when overseas, it's worthwhile switching that off before you take off unless you've got one of the discount data bundles.

Hope some of this helps....

Yeah that helps thanks. I terminated my Vodafone accouont last week (but got customer retentions constantly phoning me - 12 years with them & my other halfs number on my account for 5 years). Planning on getting a black 32GB 3GS if I can find one. Going for a business tariff with my other half's number coming under the sim only shared minutes solution..

Just a question of what to do with my iPod shuffle and 80GB 5th gen iPod..

As for abroad I think the hotel I'm going to in September has wireless so I'd just hook into that. However the lady wouldn't be happy if I was able to get email on holiday...

Southwell 27-07-2009 09:46 AM

The battery can be used up very quickly, im keeping my ipod for holidays.

mikeyscott 27-07-2009 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Southwell (Post 268494)
The battery can be used up very quickly, im keeping my ipod for holidays.

Ok cheers for that as I'm off to Greece in September for a Neilson holiday :)

Just wish it was 10 days and not 7. They offer 14, but don't particularly want to arrive home and then run round getting ready for work etc etc.

pro4nut 27-07-2009 07:45 PM

If it interests anyone, orange and t-mobile are now getting the i phone expected arpound september and vodafone are pretty close to tying up a deal but it won't be available with them till o2's deal expires in november.

orange and t-mobile will only stock the 3g and nano varients but not the 3gs, voda is expected to get the 3gs.

mikeyscott 27-07-2009 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pro4nut (Post 268740)
If it interests anyone, orange and t-mobile are now getting the i phone expected arpound september and vodafone are pretty close to tying up a deal but it won't be available with them till o2's deal expires in november.

orange and t-mobile will only stock the 3g and nano varients but not the 3gs, voda is expected to get the 3gs.

Source?

losixxx 27-07-2009 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyscott (Post 268767)
Source?

reggae reggae please

pro4nut 27-07-2009 11:23 PM

sorry can't give the source. still employed by one of the parties mentioned above

mikeyscott 28-07-2009 07:20 AM

I'm in the process of leaving Vodafone, but haven't left yet.. 30 days notice in etc. and retentions team trying to get hold of me every day..

So the Iphone 3GS is it coming to Vodafone and when? As this may change things.

Southwell 28-07-2009 08:14 AM

At the earliest it will be November/December, they can't start selling it until O2's contract has expired.

mikeyscott 28-07-2009 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Southwell (Post 268908)
At the earliest it will be November/December, they can't start selling it until O2's contract has expired.

Mmm tempted to site out of contract for a few months and see how the land lies..

Otherwise O2 Vs Vodafone on the service aspect?

Southwell 28-07-2009 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyscott (Post 268910)
Mmm tempted to site out of contract for a few months and see how the land lies..

Otherwise O2 Vs Vodafone on the service aspect?

IMO O2 are better on phone call signals, Orange wins in 3g stakes. (well technically 3 are better but i dont like them)

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/i...erage_maps.pdf


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