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Brooks 03-07-2009 07:58 PM

schumacher Cat sx battery?????
 
Hi there

Thinking of some different lipos.
Can i run the hump/ridged lipos or do they have to be flat like Trakpower.
What lipos would you guys recommed?????? (thinking or the Intellent lipo):D

Cheers
Chris

stikkan1 03-07-2009 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brooks (Post 260768)
Hi there

Thinking of some different lipos.
Can i run the hump/ridged lipos or do they have to be flat like Trakpower.
What lipos would you guys recommed?????? (thinking or the Intellent lipo):D

Cheers
Chris


I have the GP4300 series lipo batteries in my cat, mounted upside/down.
(corally pluggs both sides)

2mm clearence to the mid belt.

jim76 03-07-2009 09:20 PM

cells with lugs on will be a real squeeze under the belt, unless you get the new stiff chassis that has locating slots for the lugs.
any of the brca legal stick packs with a flat bottom should fit fine. which one you get depends on your budget and how much punch you want.

geerno 04-07-2009 12:57 PM

Avoid the lipos with the humps, it causes a headache, unless you have the new stiffer chassis.

I have the intelect, and I wish I had bought something else. I have to run them upside down and thus have strange wiring.

mikeyscott 19-07-2009 03:06 PM

Any pics of the new chassis?

AmiSMB 19-07-2009 09:45 PM

I run the Vampire racing Lipo's which have location bumps on using the NiMh CAT SX chassis. All I had to do was to dremel a small part out at the front to allow the front locator to locate. You do need the Lipo servo mounts, Lipo belt roller and lipo battery strap to do this to a NiMh CAT.

AmiSMB 19-07-2009 09:47 PM

Here is a picture from another member from the board that did the same mod.

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j3...IMAGE_298b.jpg

mikeyscott 19-07-2009 09:48 PM

I'm probably going to get a Core RC 5000 LIPo for the Cat and Trakpower for the XXCR. The Trakpower's aren't as tights as I'd like due to only being 3600s

Already got the Atomic Carbon brace

Darren Boyle 19-07-2009 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikeyscott (Post 265887)
I'm probably going to get a Core RC 5000 LIPo for the Cat and Trakpower for the XXCR. The Trakpower's aren't as tights as I'd like due to only being 3600s

Already got the Atomic Carbon brace

Each to their own but there are better LIPO's than those around for what you need ;)

mikeyscott 20-07-2009 07:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMS Racing (Post 265929)
Each to their own but there are better LIPO's than those around for what you need ;)

Which ones are you thinkng of then? I like the Vampire LIPOs I bought off you before, but they have locators on the bottom.

The Core RC seem to be the right size and have the wires positioned more away from the belt. I know it's a squeeze in the Cat regardless.

Darren Boyle 20-07-2009 09:58 AM

The CORE is "up with the best" on price (£85 RRP) but at 25C (the 35C ones are not on the BRCA list) there are far better option's around in my opinion, Not just Vampire (but they are one of the ones I am thinking about of course) but the likes of LRP and Reedy too.

The "lumps" are not that much grief that a swift evenings modification will solve and then you will be able to use a "better" product as result of your work.

Same thing with the 3600's in your 2wd, similiar money can get you 4000+'s at 35C that would just drop striaght in without fuss (due to their lower height than higher capacity ones)

Brooks 20-07-2009 01:44 PM

I know alot of people at my club who run the Intellect lipos 5000mah 30c from Hong kong on Ebay, they are only 48 pound with postge :D BARGAIN
Only problem is they have humps for the chassis locaters
Can these be filed down with a Dremel????? :eh?:

mikeyscott 20-07-2009 01:53 PM

The Trakpower 3600 LIPOs were a bargin buy, but appreciate they may not be the best. They do however fit will in the Losi XXCR due to their size and hopefully I'll be able to get some lead underneath them.

As for dremeling parts of the Cat SX or LIPOs, I'm not a fan of that. I dremelled the servo for the XX, but that's it.

bigred5765 20-07-2009 02:32 PM

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we had the problem were we couldn't get the cells in because of there humps underneath, and they touched the belts and pulleys,so we have made holes in the chassis for them to drop in, this has made the chassis a bit More flexible which has helped handling and made the car easier to drive on high grip tracks,15mins with a dremmel no skill involved lol:D

Darren Boyle 20-07-2009 02:34 PM

Dont EVER dremel the LIPO itself, it is both dangerous (potentially) and will render them illegal.
That said, filling a little away from a chassis is neither too much of a hardship or big deal really to make somthing fit easier.

bigred5765 20-07-2009 02:44 PM

no sorry if i didn't make it completely clear, i dremmeled are chassis not the cells, as Darren said not a good idea to go any were near a lipo with a dremmel,

Darren Boyle 20-07-2009 02:56 PM

Carl, I replied to Mikey's post were he stated "As for dremeling parts of the Cat SX or LIPOs, I'm not a fan of that. I dremelled the servo for the XX, but that's it".

All what you put was spot on ;)

mikeyscott 20-07-2009 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMS Racing (Post 266067)
Carl, I replied to Mikey's post were he stated "As for dremeling parts of the Cat SX or LIPOs, I'm not a fan of that. I dremelled the servo for the XX, but that's it".

All what you put was spot on ;)

I wouldn't dremel LIPOs for safety reasons anyway.. Just get the money out and buy the right ones in the first place ;)

Brooks 20-07-2009 05:52 PM

I dont think i will done the lipo dremel route
What lipos dont have the humps on them????
Dont really want to dremel the chassis
I may just go for the Trakpower 4900 25c (No Humps) :D

mikeyscott 20-07-2009 05:55 PM

Just got to get the wiring right. The wiring on the outside means less wires towards the belts.

VXRBennie58 22-07-2009 12:00 PM

I'd recommend the core's, very good lipo's for the money !

I'd also consider the Intellects at £50 :D

geerno 22-07-2009 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMS Racing (Post 266058)
Dont EVER dremel the LIPO itself, it is both dangerous (potentially) and will render them illegal.
That said, filling a little away from a chassis is neither too much of a hardship or big deal really to make somthing fit easier.

Agreed, and if you take to much off some lipo hard cases, you will have a hole in the case before you get the hump level to the bottom of the rest of the lipo case. Especially the intellects with carbon look case.

geerno 23-07-2009 05:52 AM

OK! Check this out. The SMC 4700 40c Lipos have humps on the base, but the can be used upside down because there are tube connectors on each side. Genius. Will work no problem in the SX, and they are 40c :drool:

http://www.rc-mushroom.com/product_i...ducts_id=17823

Darren Boyle 23-07-2009 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geerno (Post 267089)
OK! Check this out. The SMC 4700 40c Lipos have humps on the base, but the can be used upside down because there are tube connectors on each side. Genius. Will work no problem in the SX, and they are 40c :drool:

http://www.rc-mushroom.com/product_i...ducts_id=17823

Exactly the same principal as the LRP/Nosram's available here in the UK already, BUT LRP etc are BRCA legal, the SMC are not......

mikeyscott 23-07-2009 08:33 AM

Indeed I do want BRCA legal as at some point I will be doing an event. Bit late for this year though :(

Any plans for the vampire racing to have the connectors on the other side too?

Darren Boyle 23-07-2009 08:35 AM

They are not allowed to change the spec once it is submitted for BRCA/EFRA approval, if they did they would be illegal. So in short, no not at present

Brooks 23-07-2009 08:38 AM

The Gp 5300 30c lipos have corally tubes on both side
Turn them up side down :D

VXRBennie58 23-07-2009 09:09 AM

I didn't know intellect did 5000's with 40C. Perfect for tourers:lol:

The only problem with the LRP's is that there £99.99 RRP but I suppose you pay for quality. The Orion 3800 are still £89.99 and they're only 30C but the cells are Kokam.

You pay for quality :lol:

VXRBennie58 23-07-2009 09:20 AM

Just weighed some GP 4000's and some 5000's and a pack of Orion 3800

GP 4000 : 232g
GP 5000 : 272g
Orion 3800 : 231g

Orion's were only 1g lighter than the GP4000's but they look so much smaller and look look less bulky:D

mikeyscott 23-07-2009 10:16 AM

Interesting.. The weight factor is rather critical in my XXCR, but not sure about the Cat SX (haven't run it yet)

Darren Boyle 23-07-2009 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VXRBennie58 (Post 267135)
I didn't know intellect did 5000's with 40C. Perfect for tourers:lol:

The only problem with the LRP's is that there £99.99 RRP but I suppose you pay for quality. The Orion 3800 are still £89.99 and they're only 30C but the cells are Kokam.

You pay for quality :lol:

I would MUCH sooner have an LRP 5300 40C for £99 RRP than an Orion 3800 30C for a tenner less (£89 RRP).

Orion may be Kokam's but the LRP's are not exactly cheap and nasty tat inside, they are excellent quality too with more capacity and power to boot.

VXRBennie58 23-07-2009 01:47 PM

Yeah I agree, id rather have the LRP :lol:

Brooks 23-07-2009 01:50 PM

I agree as well The Gp's are good for the price

VXRBennie58 23-07-2009 07:57 PM

Yep I run the GP4000 35c's in my 416 WE and I think they're brilliant:D

mikeyscott 24-09-2009 05:20 PM

What LIPOs did you get in the end and how many have moved to the new stiffer chassis?

Brooks 24-09-2009 08:10 PM

I got the GP 4300 35c Lipos from Hong Kong in the end
Only £40 with P&P :thumbsup:
Had to take abit of the humps on the lipos to make them fit under the battery bar, but they fit fine :thumbsup:
Used the same chassis

mikeyscott 24-09-2009 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brooks (Post 290756)
I got the GP 4300 35c Lipos from Hong Kong in the end
Only £40 with P&P :thumbsup:
Had to take abit of the humps on the lipos to make them fit under the battery bar, but they fit fine :thumbsup:
Used the same chassis

Don't want to dremel the batteries etc. So it sounds like a no go.

bigred5765 24-09-2009 09:27 PM

dont dremmel the batterys dremmel the chassis,im pretty sure if u dremmel them there no longer legal,

mikeyscott 24-09-2009 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 290816)
dont dremmel the batterys dremmel the chassis,im pretty sure if u dremmel them there no longer legal,

My thoughts exactly, whats the point in spending all that money and then becoming illegal..

lochness42 25-09-2009 06:29 AM

http://westlondonmodels.com/product2...P-5000-Car-PR/
EFRA legal - I belive also BRCA legal.

It's my choice no.1


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