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c0sie 29-06-2009 05:19 PM

B44 setups
 
Anyone know where I can get some up-to-date setups for the B44? Indoors and outdoor (grass/astro) please?

Thanks :)

jcb 29-06-2009 05:26 PM

Not sure about Team driver setups but heres my final setup from the National at Eden Park where I finished 2nd in the C Final

Front:
45wt oil
Number 1 Piston
Silver Spring
Inside on shock tower, outside on wishbone

Camber link
inside on Carbon top plate with 2 small spacers
outside on hub carrier
-1 degree camber

Rear:
30wt oil
Number 1 piston
Silver spring
inside on shock tower, inside on wishbone

Camber Link
inside on Carbon top plate with 2 small spacers
Middle on hub carrier
-1 degree camber

1 Anti squat washer

kit roll bar

Medium Wheel Base

Rude Bits Battery Tray

Ride height - Front just below levelwishbones level, rear a smidge lower than the front.

Steering and any other bits I have missed will be per the manual

Hope that helps.

Wraggy 29-06-2009 05:56 PM

the team are pretty much running that but no2 piston in front shock and 40wt oil seems to be the order of the day currently

c0sie 30-06-2009 07:30 AM

Cheers gents, thats a good help :)

millzy 30-06-2009 09:19 AM

Chris I dont know if you are aware but this place called CML have a website with it all on.....might want to have a look- told they do some good cars too

c0sie 30-06-2009 09:22 AM

CML do amazing cars ;) Team Associated cars are the greatest!

However, there are only 2 setup sheets on the site, hence me looking around this FINE forum for further information :) :)

millzy 30-06-2009 09:25 AM

Yes there cakes are very good.

rep is a tit

Arn0 01-07-2009 01:02 AM

Have a look here, there is more than two setups.

Both Jonathan and Pidge setups on, provide feedbck in case of bad transcript, cheers!

Hope that's help!

c0sie 01-07-2009 07:18 AM

Arn0,
Thanks for the link, its a great help :)

Cris

zaquiz 01-07-2009 09:44 AM

Lee or anyone else, which was the "team" setup for de B4 @ Eden? Around what weight were your running?

c0sie 01-07-2009 01:16 PM

As far as I know......
Pidge's Reedy 4200's weigh about 270g (with wires), and his Rudebits brass weighs about 130g....so that area is about 400g.

There is so little difference between ESC's, motors and servos to make any significant difference so id aim for the back end of your car to have about 400g in weight around the cell area and then just stick your electrics in?

Thats what im doing...although im ever so slightly not as good as Pidge is :)

c0sie 01-07-2009 02:11 PM

Also,
I noticed that all those setup sheets indicate running a diff up front, yet other posts ive seen on this forum say that people would never run fixed 4WD over a one-way due to handling?

Anyone? One-way or fixed for the UK (indoors and outdoors)

Belsten 01-07-2009 02:18 PM

I always ran the diff, tried the one way a couple of times but didnt like it. Some people swear by them, others dont, I think its more of a personal preference thing although im prepared to be shot down :)

markwilliamson2001 01-07-2009 04:28 PM

If you use a one-way, the NTC3 Heavy Duty one can be used. I think wezzer might have used a Yokomo one, and changed the bevel gear somehow. Best off checking with him Cris.

M.

jcb 04-07-2009 12:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arn0 (Post 259949)
Have a look here, there is more than two setups.

Both Jonathan and Pidge setups on, provide feedbck in case of bad transcript, cheers!

Hope that's help!


well thats saved me a job of hand writing one out, thanks :D

No front roll bar though and the front diff would be slightly tighter than the rear. Will try and work out what the ride height settings were properly over the weekend seeing as it's all professionally done ;)

Arn0 04-07-2009 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcb (Post 260855)
No front roll bar though and the front diff would be slightly tighter than the rear. Will try and work out what the ride height settings were properly over the weekend seeing as it's all professionally done ;)

Change done. Let me know about the ride height ;)

This thread worst to be or sticked or merged with this one, no??

c0sie 04-07-2009 03:55 PM

I think we should keep this thread for B44 setups as the other thread is mainly about the B4??

Thats if Jimmy dont mind?

Mike Hudson 04-07-2009 04:00 PM

Maybe this could be made into a sticky setups just for the B44?

c0sie 07-07-2009 09:33 AM

Setup im currently using indoors (slippery polished concrete, carpet, rumbles).

Front:
Losi red pistons in Losi shocks
AE 40wt oil
Losi black springs (or blue if softer springs are needed)
Inner hole on tower
Outer hole on arm
Ackerman as kit
Camber link chassis and hub holes as per kit
Diff tightened till it will rotate but not slip

Rear:
Losi orange pistons in Losi shocks
AE 30wt oil
Losi pink springs
Inner hole on tower
Inner hole on arm
Camber link chassis and hub holes as per kit
Diff slightly looser than front
Antisquat as kit
2mm gurney

GTB with 6.5L, 18/78 (Settings per default, reverse off)
Ino-Lab servo
TrakPower 3200 LiPo's
Rudebits brass LiPo tray and straps
Schumacher yellow minipins with medium green inserts

jcb 07-07-2009 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arn0 (Post 260949)
Change done. Let me know about the ride height ;)

This thread worst to be or sticked or merged with this one, no??


22mm front and 20mm rear

Arn0 08-07-2009 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcb (Post 262118)
22mm front and 20mm rear

Jonathan, i did upgrade your setup ;)

Cris, yours is online too.

Please, refer to message 8 to see both setups

Thanks and I hope that help you guys! :)

MHeadling 31-08-2009 05:47 PM

I am looking for a set up for the B44 for polished wood floor, a guy at Faversham club runs blue front springs/green rears and a silver rear roll bar.

I was looking for any set up help with camber link position/spacing?

Shock set up ?

Any extra weight on the car? I am running the rude bits battery tray.

Thanks in advance :thumbsup:

c0sie 04-09-2009 08:30 AM

Polished floor I swear by yellow mini spikes, green inserts.
Wes used to thrash a B44 on the polished floor at Ludlow..if he reads this he'll probably help no end :)

c0sie 04-09-2009 08:30 AM

And whilst were at it....

Under what circumstances are people running the brass tray and straps sperately, and as a combo?

MHeadling 04-09-2009 11:45 AM

Cosie, what springs/oils/camber link positions were you guys running on the polished floor?

alexb4 14-09-2009 02:30 PM

Worksop setup
 
Has anyone got a setup for the B44 for worksop as first time racing there and new car thanks Alex

michaelfox 27-11-2010 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0sie (Post 261910)
Setup im currently using indoors (slippery polished concrete, carpet, rumbles).

Front:
Losi red pistons in Losi shocks
AE 40wt oil
Losi black springs (or blue if softer springs are needed)
Inner hole on tower
Outer hole on arm
Ackerman as kit
Camber link chassis and hub holes as per kit
Diff tightened till it will rotate but not slip

Rear:
Losi orange pistons in Losi shocks
AE 30wt oil
Losi pink springs
Inner hole on tower
Inner hole on arm
Camber link chassis and hub holes as per kit
Diff slightly looser than front
Antisquat as kit
2mm gurney

GTB with 6.5L, 18/78 (Settings per default, reverse off)
Ino-Lab servo
TrakPower 3200 LiPo's
Rudebits brass LiPo tray and straps
Schumacher yellow minipins with medium green inserts

hey can you tell what losi shocks you use?
and are they worth the upgrade?
stock towers or these ones?
http://www.m-k-racing.com/product_in...oducts_id=7652

markwilliamson2001 19-12-2010 06:08 PM

Here's my Final setup from Caldicot Indoors Christmas Bash 2010...

B44 Caldicot Setup

Just to confirm, I ran the rudebits lipo tray, but not the straps. Depending on the weight of your lipo's, I would run about 100-150 grams extra around the rear end/lipo cells. My lipo cells are very light (230g without wires), so would really like to have run both Rudebits tray AND straps, but didn't have any straps for today. Car was more 'steery' as the grip came up in the last two qualifiers. If your running the reedy lipos, just run the tray, and see how it goes.

My car is also almost a B44.1, bar new chassis layout, and shock bodies!
Hope this helps anyone.

supersonic 22-12-2010 04:25 PM

I'm just getting my B44.1 ready for indoor carpet track.
What springs do you guys use? How many shock limiters inside the shocks?

What is a good starting point?

nic

Bradders 18-01-2011 01:07 AM

B44.1 Petit setup
 
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Here's my final setup from the weekend.....

RoyalCBR 27-04-2011 05:42 PM

Can anyone lend me some advice on setting my B44, more from the motor, gearing side of things?

Currently I have an LRP 10.5t motor and ESC, but not sure what is best in terms of gearing - will be running Lipos

Cheers, Mark

markwilliamson2001 27-04-2011 06:01 PM

Indoors or outside? Tight or open track? If indoors, I would start around 24 tooth pinion. Outside the 10.5 will be slow, I would at least get a 7.5 motor, on a 22/23 tooth pinion.

Hope this helps!

RoyalCBR 27-04-2011 07:24 PM

At the moment indoors, with various different surface types - but I think the summer season is coming, so might be racing outdoors on Astro turf - cheers for the tip though.

Whiskers 07-06-2011 05:20 PM

What brand shock oils are people using on their setup sheets?

Rob_B 07-06-2011 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Whiskers (Post 511843)
What brand shock oils are people using on their setup sheets?

I would say associated.

gainsy 07-06-2011 07:23 PM

Looking for a set up for Stotfold please guys for a B44
Cheers
Gainsy

Whiskers 08-06-2011 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob_B (Post 511851)
I would say associated.

Does anybody have a AE to Losi oil chart?

MiCk B. 08-06-2011 09:09 AM

Here's one.

MiCk B. :-)

Whiskers 08-06-2011 09:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MiCk B. (Post 512119)
Here's one.

MiCk B. :-)

Thanks :thumbsup:

oli4ke 18-06-2011 08:49 AM

Many thanks in advance!!
 
Hi,

I have a questions concerning a brushless engine, esc and servo for my new B44.1

What is is the best buy / combo lately?

BTW: Do you guys use saddle packs for the B44 (.1)?

Any advise / experience is highly appreciated!

Cheers


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