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JJ The Boat Wizzard 09-06-2009 07:24 PM

NO MORE LRP WARRANTY
 
Just read another thread and:

It looks like LRP has quietly scraped their 25year waranty on the latest SXX ?

What a shame, this was the very thing that made LRP worth the extra money. Did they think they can scrap it and still sell their ESCs as expensive?

Can someone confirm this is the case as i was going to get the new SSX ?

John

jono83 09-06-2009 07:27 PM

I heard a lot of the team drivers for lrp were having problems with the sxx so have switched back to the sphere tc.

RudeTony 09-06-2009 08:00 PM

Never had a single thing go wrong with LRP gear
All the best

SlowOne 11-06-2009 06:37 PM

+1... Great kit! :thumbsup:

Body Paint 11-06-2009 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJ The Boat Wizzard (Post 251940)
Just read another thread and:

It looks like LRP has quietly scraped their 25year waranty on the latest SXX ?

What a shame, this was the very thing that made LRP worth the extra money. Did they think they can scrap it and still sell their ESCs as expensive?

Can someone confirm this is the case as i was going to get the new SSX ?

John

I thought the SXX was cheaper than the Sphere TC?

Darren Boyle 11-06-2009 06:50 PM

Spoke to Jamie at SMD yesterday and he clarified that all existing "standard" products will still carry the full 25 year LRP Warranty, "However" the top spec equipment (such as the SXX) will now carry a 2 year warranty for the UK.

We are told that this is for several reasons but one is that the expectations and demands on such high end equipment means the 2 year warranty (for the original purchaser only) is more appropriate.

To explain further, LRP are saying that they can make their equipment to last forever but at the sacrifice of performance but the top end kit is so close to working at 100% of its capability it just simply cannot carry such a long warranty any longer with the stresses and strains we are putting through them.

A good comparison would be the motor car engine. An every cars engine will often have a minimum of a 3 year warranty, some 5, some even 10 years now on same makes, since the motor car engine is not working at any near 100% of its capabilty these is relatively simple to offer and stand by, on the other hand a Formula 1 engine will deliver optimum performance but will never be expected to last 100,000's of miles like a road car would, hence at its performance level its life expectancy is lower......

Body Paint 11-06-2009 06:52 PM

So the SPX will still carry a 25 year warrenty? That is the sport version isn't it? Though it still has a low motor limit

Darren Boyle 11-06-2009 06:57 PM

2 I believe....

Body Paint 11-06-2009 07:07 PM

Just checked and:

SXX which is the new top of the range no compramise speedo and is a complete redesign, competition and TC versions, have the 2 year warrenty and a 2.5T motor limit.

SPX which is the competition range of speedo, which is an update of the Sphere, has a 3.0T brushless limit has the 25 year warrenty.

GRIFF55 11-06-2009 07:09 PM

if i go blue, spx it will be then!

Belsten 11-06-2009 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRIFF55 (Post 252880)
if i go blue, spx it will be then!

pikey :lol:

Lowie 11-06-2009 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMS Racing (Post 252871)
...
To explain further, LRP are saying that they can make their equipment to last forever but at the sacrifice of performance but the top end kit is so close to working at 100% of its capability it just simply cannot carry such a long warranty any longer with the stresses and strains we are putting through them.

A good comparison would be the motor car engine. An every cars engine will often have a minimum of a 3 year warranty, some 5, some even 10 years now on same makes, since the motor car engine is not working at any near 100% of its capabilty these is relatively simple to offer and stand by, on the other hand a Formula 1 engine will deliver optimum performance but will never be expected to last 100,000's of miles like a road car would, hence at its performance level its life expectancy is lower......

pitty the price will still remain Formula1-ish ... for an ESC you can only use maybe two years ... :(

I understand that a top-level ESC makes the difference in On-road ... but IMHO you must be a fool to buy such an expensive ESC (with only two year-life-expectancy) for off-roadracing

Body Paint 11-06-2009 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lowie (Post 252893)
pitty the price will still remain Formula1-ish ... for an ESC you can only use maybe two years ... :(

I understand that a top-level ESC makes the difference in On-road ... but IMHO you must be a fool to buy such an expensive ESC (with only two year-life-expectancy) for off-roadracing

Then buy the SPX, that will be at least as good as the Sphere, will be cheaper and has 25 year warrenty.

I think they have done the right thing here. They have made the old ones cheaper and brought out a new, higher performance speedo.

jono83 11-06-2009 10:26 PM

spx is basically the same as a sphere but with reverse

Lee 12-06-2009 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Body Paint (Post 252898)
Then buy the SPX, that will be at least as good as the Sphere, will be cheaper and has 25 year warrenty.

I think they have done the right thing here. They have made the old ones cheaper and brought out a new, higher performance speedo.


I second this, i think it was the spx we used for the 24h race, it didnt skip a beat for the whole meeting, the biggest issue we had was whether to use reverse or not :thumbsup:

Urzrkymn 12-06-2009 03:46 PM

Everywhere I have looked the SPX is more expensive than the SXX

chb 28-07-2009 10:09 AM

I just received my german-sourced Nosram 90710=SPX stock spec

It did NOT come with the 25year warranty !:(

mikeyscott 28-07-2009 10:45 AM

Hence why I've just dumping a LRP Sphere TC for a Tekin RS Pro. If they have the same warranty etc. it's down to the better product...

Plus the LRP has a shite BEC compare to the Tekin..

Lowie 28-07-2009 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chb (Post 268954)
I just received my german-sourced Nosram 90710=SPX stock spec

It did NOT come with the 25year warranty !:(

no warranty on an LRP???
how's that possible?

Richard Lowe 28-07-2009 11:30 AM

This all seems a bit silly, a speedo will either be up to the load asked of it or not, they don't degrade or 'wear out' over time :bored:

blue_pinky 28-07-2009 11:40 AM

Warranties are not about how long the product will last, it is just about how long the manufacturer has chosen to support a product from developing problems due to manufacturing defects during it's life.

The new LRP esc's will not suddenly implode on themselves after 2 years....they, like ALL other products, will most likely keep working completely fine for as long as they kept in good condition and not abused.

LRP were very brave to offer a 25 year warranty from the beginning IMO. RC is a very abusive environment for electrics to work in, and with increased popularity, increased power, ever developing technology and numbers of product out in the field, it's no wonder that they are reducing their warranties (and consequently their own company running costs) to 2 years...more in line with rest of their competitors!!!

Northy 28-07-2009 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe (Post 268988)
This all seems a bit silly, a speedo will either be up to the load asked of it or not, they don't degrade or 'wear out' over time :bored:

If electronic components are running close to their limits then they will degrade over time and eventually fail, but then perhaps they shouldn't be running close to their limits ;)

G

Darren Boyle 28-07-2009 12:08 PM

The comp spec LRP stuff does have a warranty (a very good one at that - far better than "most" other brands I might add) its just not 25 years any more on the top end stuff....

As for ditching an LRP for a superior Tekin, not too sure about that, I think results speak for themsleves really

Alfonzo 28-07-2009 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe (Post 268988)
This all seems a bit silly, a speedo will either be up to the load asked of it or not, they don't degrade or 'wear out' over time :bored:

Sure they do. Heat cycles will take their toll eventually.

Richard Lowe 28-07-2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 269004)
If electronic components are running close to their limits then they will degrade over time and eventually fail, but then perhaps they shouldn't be running close to their limits ;)

G

Thats what I was getting at :)

daz 28-07-2009 01:55 PM

I dont see the big fuss, most people change there gear after a year or two anyway, cos it goes out of fashion or is replaced by something better. Apart from me who still uses a 10 year old nosram speedo!


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