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DCM 08-06-2009 01:45 PM

Ansmann Pro-X build
 
Got my kit, taking pics and notes, will update as and when I got enough.

So far, plastics are not floppy jelly, 2mm hex ball studs, hex screws, full ballraced, good fit.

Nick Goodall 08-06-2009 01:50 PM

Pics pics pics :thumbsup:

dave g 08-06-2009 02:22 PM

is it like a griffin steve :)

Jamie.T 08-06-2009 03:39 PM

Hope the build is coming along ok Steve, have you got any pics yet?

P.s, did you get my pm RE: Servo?

Jamie........

DCM 08-06-2009 03:44 PM

Nick, will post pics up a little later, when I got the RB5, sorry, I mean, Pro-X front end together!!

Dave.... definately no Griffin, I don't think there will be any need for Alloy bits... just to replace wobbly stock parts, lol!!

Jamie, yeah, I got it, bit to steep for me at the moment, unless you want to 'donate' one out of samples, lol

DCM 08-06-2009 06:46 PM

the build begins - front end
 
OK, the box arrived, most eagerly awaited, excited for a new 2WD, nervous that it could be a massive hit (good materials) or a flop (floppy plastics). They do say, first impressions count, so on opening up the container, a rather nice kit box is in there, more so, the artwork is a sleeve, the box will make a very good storage box too!

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...d/IMG_0130.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...d/IMG_0134.jpg
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After checking out the parts, a few things are evident, this isn't a cheap kit, to throw away. It comes full ballraced (all except the ackerman plate), the screws are steel, and of the 2mm Hex variety, and, surprisingly, the ballstuds have a hex driver fitting too.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...d/IMG_0138.jpg


All the mouldings are really well finished, very little flashing on the parts, wishbones, towers, chassis, so far, are made out of a very stiff composit, somewhere between the B4Team and B4FT Graphite. The other mouldings aren't to shabby either, made of good, solid plastic. You may want to grease the screws going into the harder stuff though.

Assembly is easy, elthough the instructions could be made a little clearer at some points (steering assembly), and there is no spacer between the front bearings, not to sure if this will cause an issue on wheel fitment though, wait and see, but apart from that, the parts have slotted together really well, like you would expect, in a pro level kit.

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DCM 08-06-2009 06:47 PM

and more....

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GRIFF55 08-06-2009 06:52 PM

looks good steve! keep em coming:thumbsup:

dbizzle5 08-06-2009 07:17 PM

Wow! It looks exactly the same as my RB5! How much do these kits sell at?

Jamie.T 08-06-2009 07:18 PM

Well done Steve, looks awesome. You may deserve a nice bluebird servo after all your hard work in your excellent build review. See what i can do for you mate.....

Jamie@Ansmann

DCM 08-06-2009 07:19 PM

gearbox is sweet too, diff is ubber smooooooth too, moulding nice and tight, so tight, the click together, the gearbox halves

Jamie.T 08-06-2009 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbizzle5 (Post 251436)
Wow! It looks exactly the same as my RB5! How much do these kits sell at?

These retail at £139.99

Jamie@Ansmann

MattW 08-06-2009 07:28 PM

Have to say, on the face of it, looks like a well made kit. Mouldings look nice. Front end does look very RB5!

DCM 08-06-2009 08:15 PM

The box of gears.....
 
Right, theis is a standard, 3 gear, ball diff, dual pad slipper unit, gearbox. The box is made out of the same material as the chassis, and the fit is very tight, so should stop dirt ingress. Diff is a 12 ball diff, ballraced too, with a caged thrust race (diff lube included, but no thrust grease...). The diff assembles nice and easily, no surprises there, and is silky smooth, the only concern, the instructions lack any info on how to set the diff, and it isn't a 'rully tighten, then back of 1/8th of a turn'.

Once assumbled, it turns nicely, no high spots, and will free up more with use too.

Slipper is easy to assemble, and uses a wheel nut for adjustment.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...x/IMG_0168.jpg

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Evsie 08-06-2009 08:51 PM

Looks like a good kit, nice pics Steve. :thumbsup:

I might have to get me a Mad Rat for 49.99, brilliant value for money.

JJ The Boat Wizzard 08-06-2009 09:28 PM

:O HOW CHEAP! Dose the Pro - X version have threaded shocks and titanium trackrods?? If so i think i will get one of these and a mid rat as spares :D so thats about 150quid with every single spare!!

DCM 08-06-2009 09:42 PM

it has threaded shocks (build them tomorrow now) and they are either stainless steel or titanium turnbuckles.

DCM 08-06-2009 10:32 PM

It's derier....
 
Right, not much to say about the rear, to be honest. It has suspension blocks, to mount the front and rear of the rear wishbones. Hubs have 4 positions for the outer link, it also has a spacer, so the rear hub can be moved forward and backward, about an 1/8th". Inner camber link has 4 mounting holes too, all the suspension mounts off a rear chassis plate.

Pics....

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...d/IMG_0183.jpg

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jim76 08-06-2009 10:59 PM

good work Steve. you could almost get a job for oople doing reviews! lol

DCM 09-06-2009 06:25 AM

cheers dude, I could never measuer up to the Jimster.... I can't do the late nights lol!!! and Jimmy is a Leg End when it comes to the camera and words!!

RSharpy 09-06-2009 07:10 AM

Am enjoying watching this build, good work DCM :thumbsup:

Theres no doubt its a near on carbon copy of an RB5, is that legal? :lol: Using the origional style rear end rather than the new SP, not a bad thing though, i've never been convinced by the worlds rear end on the RB5.

The only down side to the origional RB5 rear end was that it was far to narrow in the box so it will interesting to see how the Pro-X measures up?

Looking good though, an RB5 with green bits rather than blue and £100 cheaper :thumbsup:

DCM 09-06-2009 07:49 AM

glad your enjoying it, I still haven't found where they have saved so much money though.... Only thing that is more bling than pro, are the shocks, with no teflon coating.

Northy 09-06-2009 08:02 AM

Is it metric?
What size are the hinge pins?
:confused::confused:

G

RSharpy 09-06-2009 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 251608)
glad your enjoying it, I still haven't found where they have saved so much money though.... Only thing that is more bling than pro, are the shocks, with no teflon coating.

The RB5 used to retail at £160 it's only due to the exchange rate that as sent it to £240+. But you would expect Ansmann to have simlar issues in todays climate? Where are they based?

They have done well to price it at £139, on the face of it the quality looks good. So does the design with it being so close to an RB5 its fair to say it will perform well.

No doubt about it a lot will ride on the shocks as to wheather the Pro-X cuts the mustard.

DCM 09-06-2009 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 251610)
Is it metric?
What size are the hinge pins?
:confused::confused:

G

it is all metric, G, most of the bearings are 10x5, diff output is 15x10, hinge pins are 3mm diameter, same for the shock shafts.

Only let down, that I can see, is wheel fitment, I would of liked to see the adoption of at least the ubiquitous B4/Losi fitment (no, they don't kit, checked already), but, being Ansmann, chances are, the wheels will be cheap!!

Chrislong 09-06-2009 10:00 AM

I really fancy one of these!!! Good work Ansmann!!! :thumbsup:

DCM 09-06-2009 10:23 AM

just built the shocks... will post some pics up in a mo....

Whats the diameter of a Team Associated piston, in metric please?

DCM 09-06-2009 10:55 AM

The bouncy things - shocks I mean
 
Right, shocks, they are actually quite good. Casings are an alloy, anodized in a rather nice green colour, two piece shock tops, with a diaphragm, the lower seal consists of two o-rings, a shim and a shock chaft guide, they are either Nylon or Delrin.

Specs
Front shaft - 42.5mm
Rear shaft - 51mm
Piston Diameter - 9.9mm
Piston thickness - 2.5mm
Piston Holes - 2 hole - 1.4mm

The threaded adjuster comes with an o-ring, to stop unwanted vibration adjustment.

The shafts are a smooth fit in the o-rings, and do slide in, rather nicely too... silky even.

Filling them is pretty simple, although the process of how much oil, what oil and how to bleed them, is completely lost in the manual.

1. Assemble shock cap, with diaphragm
2. Fill shock to top
3. Pump piston to bring trapped air to the top
4. Top up oil, to top
5. Fit shock cap, wind in, then back off, one turn
6. Push piston in, to get right amount of rebound without over-pressurisation of the shock
7. Tighten shock cap, clean oil

Shock should feel pretty sweet after that, I am trying 35wt front, and 30wt rear for now.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...s/IMG_0200.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...s/IMG_0201.jpg

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http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...s/IMG_0205.jpg

The shock piston tops also come with a bleed hole, drilled into them, this made filling and bleeding, to get the correct re-bound on them, far easier.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...s/IMG_0206.jpg

The kit springs are a little soft, but after measuring them, you can get away with using B4 springs, I grabbed a front and rear, and tried them on, kit springs on the left, B4 ones on the right.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...s/IMG_0207.jpg

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bigred5765 09-06-2009 11:07 AM

b4 pistons are 10.09mm buy 2.38mm

DCM 09-06-2009 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 251674)
b4 pistons are 10.09mm buy 2.38mm

cheers, they are just a smidge to big, was a thought anyways

DCM 09-06-2009 11:35 AM

Round things and chassis
 
Got the wheels out, kit doesn't come with any tyres, which, I think, is a good thing, cause most of the time, you never ever use them. Wheels, not to sure what they are made of, they are shinny, white (with what looks like either a red or pink tinge), they are well braced inside, and also come with vent holes too.

Front wheels, do not tighten too tight, as the bearings bind, due to no internal spacer.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...d/IMG_0217.jpg

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bender 09-06-2009 12:22 PM

Car looks good!

I wouldn't be surprised if RB5 wheels fit straight on ;)

IceMike 09-06-2009 02:16 PM

i like the look of the shocks, always have trouble with mine

colmo 09-06-2009 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bender (Post 251720)
Car looks good!

I wouldn't be surprised if RB5 wheels fit straight on ;)

They look like 12mm hex wheels, front (they look like 4wd fronts) and back, so Kyosho (and maybe Academy?) wheels should fit.

DCM 09-06-2009 03:14 PM

12mm hex's all round.

Shocks are easy!

JJ The Boat Wizzard 09-06-2009 03:17 PM

Electrics , n then your gunna have to tell us how it go's seriously considering one to have to run when my car breaks!

^can i see a new oOple reviewer!^

John

DCM 09-06-2009 03:18 PM

most of the electrics are in.... just a little left, and shell to do.

greggy 09-06-2009 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 251671)
Right, shocks, they are actually quite good. Casings are an alloy, anodized in a rather nice green colour, two piece shock tops, with a diaphragm, the lower seal consists of two o-rings, a shim and a shock chaft guide, they are either Nylon or Delrin.

Specs
Front shaft - 42.5mm
Rear shaft - 51mm
Piston Diameter - 9.9mm
Piston thickness - 2.5mm
Piston Holes - 2 hole - 1.4mm

The threaded adjuster comes with an o-ring, to stop unwanted vibration adjustment.

The shafts are a smooth fit in the o-rings, and do slide in, rather nicely too... silky even.

Filling them is pretty simple, although the process of how much oil, what oil and how to bleed them, is completely lost in the manual.

1. Assemble shock cap, with diaphragm
2. Fill shock to top
3. Pump piston to bring trapped air to the top
4. Top up oil, to top
5. Fit shock cap, wind in, then back off, one turn
6. Push piston in, to get right amount of rebound without over-pressurisation of the shock
7. Tighten shock cap, clean oil

Shock should feel pretty sweet after that, I am trying 35wt front, and 30wt rear for now.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...s/IMG_0200.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...s/IMG_0201.jpg

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...s/IMG_0203.jpg



http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...s/IMG_0205.jpg

The shock piston tops also come with a bleed hole, drilled into them, this made filling and bleeding, to get the correct re-bound on them, far easier.

http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...s/IMG_0206.jpg

The kit springs are a little soft, but after measuring them, you can get away with using B4 springs, I grabbed a front and rear, and tried them on, kit springs on the left, B4 ones on the right.


howcome i'm not allowed to build the shocks on the carpet :O

Ashley 09-06-2009 03:54 PM

its a towel

DCM 09-06-2009 04:05 PM

Greggy, a few points...

It is a towel
It is my house
I am not married

So if I wanted to, I could build them in bed, naked :woot:


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