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markwilliamson2001 27-05-2009 07:24 PM

Poll: Who would want a race series for Trucks/SC10's
 
As per subject post..

who would be up for some sort of series for the SC10 trucks, basically keeping them stock as possible, with a motor limit of say 8.5 Brushless?
Lipo would be allowed, but tyres would be the std ones.

Post your votes (and comments) now, and I will try hard to get something arranged..
M.

cjm_2008 27-05-2009 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markwilliamson2001 (Post 246931)
As per subject post..

who would be up for some sort of series for the SC10 trucks, basically keeping them stock as possible, with a motor limit of say 8.5 Brushless?
Lipo would be allowed, but tyres would be the std ones.

Post your votes (and comments) now, and I will try hard to get something arranged..
M.

a 10.5 would do nicely...

Spoolio 27-05-2009 08:15 PM

Yeah, would be interesting but suggest a 10.5 "stock-spec" motor limit and stock suspension/tyres to keep it as equal as possible. What about cheapo hand-out motors included in race fees? Just a bit of blue-sky thinking.

quincey 27-05-2009 08:30 PM

8.5-10.5 motors would be fine,stock suspension and transmission would make it better and cheaper for us, also a voltage limit could be imposed 6cells or 2 cell lipo

c0sie 27-05-2009 08:33 PM

Although I think they look fugly, EVERYONE who owns an SC10 seems to love them with all their heart!

I think an SC10/truck (T4 etc) series would be a great idea myself :)

poopers 27-05-2009 10:54 PM

:thumbsup:

I think a short course SC10 / Slash series is a top idea. It would be great way to get newcomers into the hobby too, with the realistic looks and handling. 10.5 motors fit the bill well imo. I also think it’s really important to keep strict control of tyres, I’d say allow the stock tyres from either of the manufacturers to be used on either truck, no mini pins etc.

In my perfect world, with the two current trucks (AE & TRX), I'd allow the slash guys 8.5 motors and SC10 10.5 to spice it up, make truck choice more difficult and balance the playing field. But that kind of stuff's difficult to regulate so one motor for all's probably best. It wouldn't affect me, I'd be last anyway :lol:

VXRBennie58 28-05-2009 02:50 PM

Bring both down to leighton on the 5th july:thumbsup:

millzy 28-05-2009 03:04 PM

i would yes

but i want what ever motor Dan Greenwood had in his x-60 it was faster than my b4

mark christopher 28-05-2009 04:43 PM

id like to know more, where? Brca motors?
Think has to be kit tyres

telboy 28-05-2009 06:45 PM

Deffo, 8.5 'limit', and stock kit and std tyres.
I'd love to.

Or even do two classes, 8.5 and 10.5? After all they run 2 classes in the real world. :)

firestormmac5 28-05-2009 07:09 PM

it sounds good what we do at dirt arena is just have a huge selection of brushless motor running from 8.5 to about 5.5 i think and there is not a huge differents in the speed or control of the cars

Benh 08-06-2009 10:30 PM

Here's 2 X60's up against 2 x SC10's. Purely clowing around, but all have a 13.5 limit. The SC10's are standard stock set up. The X60's have been toyed with but I couldn't tell you how. They may appear a little slow on the straight, but it's hard to tell just how steep that hill is on the vid.

Great fun and would love to get more people out with the trucks. Very little to do, very little to break, and they can be slotted in amongst other classes to give breathing space.

We ran the reverse track to the 4WD that day, not the greatest of ideas coming down a steep hill with bends, grippy tyres and jelly shocks.... but good fun:thumbsup:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xli58XreQNw

If you're 50/50 about buying a truck. Do it. Satisfaction of tagging the back, watching them spin and finishing with a T-bone is worth every penny.

wezzer 09-06-2009 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0sie (Post 246974)
Although I think they look fugly, EVERYONE who owns an SC10 seems to love them with all their heart!

I think an SC10/truck (T4 etc) series would be a great idea myself :)

fugly ??? fugly???? dont get that but hey each to there own :-) you come and have a go with mine c0sie :-) you will be purchasing one within a week :-)

c0sie 09-06-2009 08:48 AM

I watched Harris and Paul from Trackside Spares reppin' it up on Friday, they are ace to watch racing around, but im just not sure on the shells :/

Sorry hun lol

But...they are ace to watch, thats for sure :)

cjm_2008 09-06-2009 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0sie (Post 251618)
I watched Harris and Paul from Trackside Spares reppin' it up on Friday, they are ace to watch racing around, but im just not sure on the shells :/

Sorry hun lol

But...they are ace to watch, thats for sure :)

I'll be battling with them on friday, missus permitting, with my 'puke orange' sc10.

the shells are crazy huge - must be like having a parachute on big jumps. they do look cool bouncing around.

c0sie 09-06-2009 10:18 AM

Big up your bad self Craig :D
I think the more the merrier. Harris' SC10 looked wicked as it drifted around the tight and twisty bits.

I tell ya, slow motors are the future! The ZX5 only has a standard 20turn brushed in and its more fun than my 6.5L :D

cjm_2008 09-06-2009 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0sie (Post 251649)
Big up your bad self Craig :D
I think the more the merrier. Harris' SC10 looked wicked as it drifted around the tight and twisty bits.

I tell ya, slow motors are the future! The ZX5 only has a standard 20turn brushed in and its more fun than my 6.5L :D

harris has the skills, without a doubt. he's got an uncanny knack for judging just how much lock to use. that was my biggest problem on friday - i've gotten used to some direct info on the back end stepping out.

i agree - slow motors are the future - if everyone could agree on which slow one to run we'd have some mega close racing, just like the old school 27t buggy racing in the rrc champs from the early 90's. then we'd be looking at entire race meetings on one fully charged lipo pack!

c0sie 09-06-2009 10:50 AM

I think Haggis and Paul were all runnings 10.5's? Ive also read of others on here running 10.5's too? Seems to work, from a spectator point of view :)

markwilliamson2001 09-06-2009 02:17 PM

Thanks guys...for all the feedback.

One thing I would like to know, is who are the 6 peeps who voted "No"!!!! :thumbdown::thumbdown:

I will see if we can perhaps do a weekend meeting with them at Hereford for starters, as I think we probably have one of the biggest groups of SC10's!

I think the concensus is for slow motors. However, I think that we need to strike a balance on motor limit. I think most people are using 10.5's, but the 8.5 limit would allow a few more in I think (this would apply to the SC10/Slash class, as well as kit tyres only!).

What about the X60/T4/XXXT-CR class, and tyres?

Thanks,
Mark

markwilliamson2001 09-06-2009 02:37 PM

Possible basic rules??

Slash/SC10 class trucks:
  • Any brushless motor with 8.5 turns or more on the BRCA EB List
  • Any Brushed motor with 12turns or more on the BRCA EB List
  • Any Lipo or NIMH Legal Pack on the BRCA EB List (for safety reasons).
  • Recommended use of a Lipo Charging sack/pouch.
  • Kit Tyres only (Inserts and wheels can be changed).
  • Any commercially available stadium Truck Bodyshells which enclose the wheels (unlike T4 which have protruding wheels - kit bodies recommended).
  • Body Must be neatly finished and painted at least one colour.
  • Windows must be clear (to assist with scrutineering).
  • Race numbers to be clearly displayed on the front and both sides of the truck with a minimum cut down size of 10mm white showing around the number
  • Minimum Ride Height 15mm
  • No modifications to ball diffs (SC10) or other performance upgrades. Checks to be made at scrutineers discretion.
T4/Modified Truck Class??
  • Any commercially available Stadium truck kit with open wheels.
  • Any Brushless motor on the BRCA EB List
  • Any Brushed motor on the BRCA EB List
  • Any Lipo or NIMH Legal Pack on the BRCA EB List (for safety reasons).
  • Recommended use of a Lipo Charging sack/pouch.
  • Any commercially available stadium Truck Bodyshells
  • Body Must be neatly finished and painted at least one colour.
  • Windows must be clear (to assist with scrutineering).
  • Race numbers to be clearly displayed on the front and both sides of the truck with a minimum cut down size of 10mm white showing around the number
  • Minimum Ride Height 15mm
  • Any commercially available rubber tires for Trucks.
Possible basic Track rules??
  • Tracks to have at least one raised feature, that is not level with the rest of the track (i.e. to prevent tarmac touring car tracks being used, "Bombholes" will be permitted) - common sense to be used when laying out the tracks....
  • Track surface can be anything (including clay, grass, carpet, astro-turf, polish floor etc etc).
  • Start/Finish straight must be long enough to allow 10 cars to start a final equally spaced at 1m intervals.
  • Races to last 5 minutes plus final lap (as per BRCA).

c0sie 09-06-2009 02:41 PM

I think the Yank's are running the SC10's for 8 minutes? With current LiPo capacity that would be easily achievable?

* Tracks must be jumpy as possible
* Contact is allowed :D <-- My only rule inputs :D

Hope it all works out Mark, the SC10's would be quite fun to watch as a massive heat of them.

cjm_2008 09-06-2009 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by c0sie (Post 251777)
I think the Yank's are running the SC10's for 8 minutes? With current LiPo capacity that would be easily achievable?

* Tracks must be jumpy as possible
* Contact is allowed :D <-- My only rule inputs :D

Hope it all works out Mark, the SC10's would be quite fun to watch as a massive heat of them.

8 min heats would be sweet. allowing contact would be pretty hard to referee though!

sticking to kit tyres is a great idea, although I've yet to try my sc10 out on grass, so I have no idea how well the kit tyres work.

the whole thing has to be focused towards racing on a very tight budget.

markwilliamson2001 09-06-2009 03:22 PM

How about 6 minutes for those running brushed/NiMH's?
Would this be best for all?

Thanks,
Mark

Body Paint 09-06-2009 03:36 PM

I think 10.5 is PLENTY for the SC10's stock tyres, you would need crazy skills to drive anything faster.

If you run an SC10 meeting at Hereford or Ledbury? then I am definately in, dates permitting.

I'd like 8 minutes, but I here what your saying Mark, a stock RTR spec motor probably wouldn't make 8 minutes on a grass track. Maybe try 6 or 7 minutes and see how that goes.

millzy 15-06-2009 09:13 AM

I ran an SC10 for the first time yesterday

what a larff :):)

we ran contact rules - Mass start final
the race was 5mins long but we kept going for ages after

I ran a 8.5 and i think it was fast enough with lipo

Every one who ran i think will agree it was the best class yesterday at COBRA and exepted the fact that you might get taped or wiped out.

cjm_2008 15-06-2009 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by millzy (Post 254070)
I ran an SC10 for the first time yesterday

what a larff :):)

we ran contact rules - Mass start final
the race was 5mins long but we kept going for ages after

I ran a 8.5 and i think it was fast enough with lipo

Every one who ran i think will agree it was the best class yesterday at COBRA and exepted the fact that you might get taped or wiped out.

fully backed; and bizarrely, driving the SC10 actually made me a lot quicker in the 4wd class - it definately helps you learn lines and how to drive on the limit :lol:

millzy 15-06-2009 09:43 AM

i just foud the whole contact thing amazing
going from runnig the b4 flat out inch away from the car in front to basicly t boning my way to the front so cool

Chrislong 15-06-2009 10:47 AM

Sounds like a scream this. Hope it takes off! Get some videos up!!!!

millzy 15-06-2009 10:51 AM

shame we didnt vid the final yesterday
there where some amazing punts going on lol

also a lot fo rubbing with out take outs- i did 3 laps behind harris with out taking him out- and then well it was the last lap whats a guy to do when the door is closed- ram his way passed lol

Chrislong 15-06-2009 11:01 AM

I find them very cool, being an accurately scaled down version of something I find ace. So keeping the rules as close to the full scale rules in terms of racing is what the aim should be.

i.e. Line starts, rubbing, big jumps & big balls.

cjm_2008 15-06-2009 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrislong (Post 254113)
rubbing, big jumps & big balls.

note to scrutineers, digital calipers and scales will be required to check this before competitors take to the rostrum.

wezzer 15-06-2009 12:02 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tkzbIhg9hQ
one from hereford club , just soooooo much fun lol

Neil867 15-06-2009 12:13 PM

Looks good Wez:thumbsup: I will try and get over friday for a bash.

Chris Green 15-06-2009 12:37 PM

Excellent Vid Wezzer.

My SC10 will be on order next week hopefully!

wezzer 15-06-2009 12:57 PM

not mine , jamie bowen made it but it shows how much of a giggle these are , wish he had recorded the final as me and vinny had a right battle :lol:

c0sie 15-06-2009 01:02 PM

That track looks ace :)

peetbee 15-06-2009 02:25 PM

I'm tempted to get another truck, but not if it was limited to SC10s as I can't afford one!

PTRU 15-06-2009 08:31 PM

Proline Dirt Arena is all ready running a class for SC10 on Wednesday nights

on clay there is still some places left for the Saturday 27th June meeting if your interested

millzy 17-06-2009 09:40 AM

its a bit far from wales to go on a wednesday night after work

but the PDA dose look cool

ex-sco77morgan 17-06-2009 12:23 PM

SC10 WRCA
 
We raced them on Sunday gone and it was immense fun. 100% behind a series and 8.5 upwards. Had 7 of us on the track and it was a bash fest from the off :D

Lets make it happen and SOOOON


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