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jimmy 10-02-2007 11:17 PM

Keen Hawk review
 
Just finishing up the Keen Hawk review (dark impact) - I really like this car I have to say, really is a true Tamiya with it's annoying and lovable traits in equal measure.

Just finished doing the electrics install - I'll let you guess what is in it - not the easiest car to install electrics in, it has to be said.. but WOW - POWER !.


DCM 10-02-2007 11:26 PM

That would be a Castle Creations Mamba then Jimmy, did you slap the receiver in front of the servo like most, oh, and fit an alloy aerial mount up front, save dragging the aerial cable all the way to the back.

Southwell 10-02-2007 11:26 PM

Nm :D

jimmy 10-02-2007 11:36 PM

Got the receiver beind the ESC at the moment - its at an angle and just stuffed in there at the moment. I might move it to where you say since it would fit ok

The mamba max motor was a @#$% to fit!
haha, I really didn't think it would fit. the Keen motor area (as you well know) is tight as hell (without dremeling stuff)- but the mamba max motor is massive and has external screws around the motor, only small but it meant that I couldnt mesh the pinion (17t 48dp) at all. eventually I realised I could flip the motor 180degrees and have the wires facing the rear of the car (and then looping back) and the screws no longer fouled on anything.

I have the tamiya slipper on the way now, I really need it before I take the car out with this mamba max thing - otherwise it will tear the car in half I am sure.

I love the car - only driven it round the kitchen, but that doesn't matter - I just love how it looks and the interesting build. It makes the slim4 look wide too! well, almost

DCM 10-02-2007 11:39 PM

It will rip the piss out of them poxy plastic rear diff half holders Jim.

re: motor, I found even with a normal brushed motor, it was a twat to fit, I am still wondering if running a Carbon conversion (albeit half baked, both of them.... grumble grumble) would give more clearance.

You playing it safe with the shell, or branching out Jim?

jimmy 10-02-2007 11:43 PM

To be honest - I think I will play it safe and do the same old paint scheme on there.. you know me, don't like to take risks.

The motor right now is fairly adjustable so I am happy.. I know it will tear right through that rear diff, I couldn't beleive how stupid that assembly is - I cant understand it at all.. Anyway, I have a proper diff from Square to fit when that one melts.

Its a shame (and again, daft) that the servo posts are moulded as part of the chassis - it means there is little advantage to running a low profile servo... the only advatage left is that you can stuff all the spare wires under it to make things look tidy

DCM 10-02-2007 11:45 PM

that will take only a couple of minutes of ripping it... I think mine lasted ooooh.... 2 runs with an 11x3 and I think that was helped by the fact the tyres weren't glued on at the time!!!

Apart from that, and the crap stock front driveshafts, the rest is reasonable for the price I guess, can't expect everything on a pocket money racer.

jimmy 10-02-2007 11:48 PM

Did the df03 hop up shocks help much? The kit items are rather horrid. The shock towers seem great for bashing but too soft for racing

PaulRotheram 10-02-2007 11:49 PM

do a new scheme man! maybe same design but jazz the colours up :)

jimmy 10-02-2007 11:51 PM

lol , I will see!

Steve, do you have any photos (of yours or anyones) car with cells in, so I can see how people do it.. not tamiya stick packs of course but racing packs..

At the moment I have fitted the Lipo as it was easy to fit (only a little dremel at the front)

PaulRotheram 10-02-2007 11:59 PM

some light colours dood, or go stealth style.

apache!!

Elliott Hopkins 11-02-2007 01:24 AM

I'm glad the DF-03 review is coming along.

That diff cover screw at the endbell end of the motor is a pain.

A 6x1 pack fits OK for me. On my packs the wires come off the end cells directly and curl over the top of the cell. I think this is what causes a slight bulge in the cover.

Elliott.

jimmy 11-02-2007 01:41 AM

Got any photos of the cells in the car elliott?
I got the Dark Impact when it first came out, literally a few days after it was released - but one thing after another put it off until it was too late (already in 'the mags'). Glad I can finally review the DF03 as it caught my attention more than just about any car I have seen in the last year or so.
I have the impact still, unbuilt, which I intend to review with the KM-RC conversion and a few other choice hop-ups (front one-way diff, square carbon towers etc)

DCM 11-02-2007 09:29 AM

Hey Jim, I had to go to bed, lol, but here is a pic of the car with cells in, how I fist done it
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j2...1/P1010008.jpg

The positive coraly was dropped down to sit in the gap between the two last cells, but I then dremelled the chassis to cope with normal packs and it didn't weaken the chassis.

The TRF shocks make one hell of a difference, with the kit shocks you go from no damping to bare minimum, with the TRF shocks, you go from bare minimum to maximum damping with the pistons and springs supplied.

Elliott Hopkins 11-02-2007 07:27 PM

Sorry Jimmy, Photobucket isn't accepting my photos at the mniute.

I agree about Tamiya's upgraded shocks. They are much better. I bent a kit shock piston on a skate ramp. Although, I'm worried about the wobbliness of the piston in the upgraded shocks.

I'd be intrerested to see if you do some new logos and decals and stuff for the DI *cough*.

Elliott.

Elliott Hopkins 12-02-2007 12:09 PM

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r...N9682Small.jpg

The wires off the cells get a little squashed coming out of the chassis.

jimmy 12-02-2007 12:12 PM

Thanks guys.

I didn't think of using deans connectors for some reason despite having loads after I swapped from them to corallys. I guess I will make up a few packs with the deans and see how I go.
Right now I am using the lipo since it fits easily.

DCM 12-02-2007 12:36 PM

I was going to go Deans on them too, but find them cumbersome so kept with Corally tubes.

Elliott Hopkins 12-02-2007 01:25 PM

I don't use anything but Deans. They're like an upgraded Tamiya connector.

Glad I can help Jimmy.

Elliott.

dan_kitty 12-02-2007 01:48 PM

just fitted a brandnew mamba max into mine yesterday havent ran it yet as it was raining, I used i little bit of dremeling on the bottom left hand side of the chassis to make the moter wires fit. Im a little scared to thrash it now after reading this, Ive got the 3 racing diff outdrives in it so hopefully wont be to bad. I guess running the slipper quite loose with low gearing as an initial test, what you suggest?. Ive heard these mambas are powerfull.

DCM 12-02-2007 01:50 PM

if you got metal diff outdrives on the rear Dan, it should be fine, with the stock plastic 'holders', too much power, the diff plates spin on the holders grrrr... stoopid idea, I dunno why.

jimmy 12-02-2007 02:04 PM

I am geared 18/85 at the moment, might be slightly under geared though I will have to see. with the motor wires facing rear I had no problems fitting the motor, meshing the 18t pinion was at the limits though without removing some materiel with the dremel. A smaller pinion wouldnt fit I don't think without work.

woOdy 12-02-2007 07:59 PM

Have you not painted that body shell yet?;) You could of done that last night while you wasnt doing anything:eh?:

DCM 12-02-2007 08:37 PM

In the undeniable words of Glyn Ward... Gear er up man!!!!

Elliott Hopkins 15-02-2007 05:39 PM

How is the review coming along Jimmy? Just curious.

(hovers over reviews button nervously)

Elliott.

EDIT: Just read the Batley Supercup post. Ooh running it this weekend. Nice.

jimmy 17-02-2007 08:44 PM

Given it a bit of running today with old tired nimh and a lipo - bit of a difference I have to say! running with the mamba max 5700.

The shocks are an obvious flaw on this car right now - I am going to go try and tune them, put the hardest pistons in and if I can find harder oil-that too.. they are just incredibly under dampened from kit settings (I actually have it harder than kit settings already).

I might end up putting the DF03 hop-up shocks on the car tomorrow - ideally I'd like to give it at least a couple of runs bog standard and if I cant handle it then put some options on it like the centre one-way and shocks. Those are the two things I think it will need most (slipper hasn't arrived yet)

jimmy 17-02-2007 08:45 PM

Just to prove I ran it! well, this is vicky driving it, but I gave it a thrash too! hehe..

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/...entsparrow.jpg

After some hard reviewing - the car takes a rest to look at the scenery.

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/...ntsparrow2.jpg

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/misc/...ntsparrow3.jpg

DCM 17-02-2007 09:02 PM

is the reveiw done Jim??

OldTimer 17-02-2007 09:03 PM

Looks like you photoshopped the background in on the last pic :D

bigred5765 17-02-2007 09:06 PM

lovin the shell very F1 ish

jimmy 17-02-2007 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldTimer (Post 25862)
Looks like you photoshopped the background in on the last pic :D

lol
you sound like someone on an american forum there bud ! :D How much time do you think I have! hehe



bigred5765 17-02-2007 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 25866)
lol
you sound like someone on an american forum there bud ! :D How much time do you think I have! hehe



enough to photoshop in all those dust and dirt specs on them tyres lol

Richard Lowe 17-02-2007 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 25866)
lol
you sound like someone on an american forum there bud ! :D How much time do you think I have! hehe



It's a FAKE!!!!!!:p

Jimmy, check you PM's :)

Elliott Hopkins 17-02-2007 10:34 PM

:) :) :) :)

thom.p 13-03-2007 12:38 PM

when is the review done??

jimmy 13-03-2007 12:43 PM

just finishing up the html layout - I have been busy with other things recently so not had time to finish it

thom.p 13-03-2007 12:55 PM

ok,when do you think its finished? I am really looking out for it.



btw. I am dutch so my is not really good.

DCM 13-03-2007 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 28760)
just finishing up the html layout - I have been busy with other things recently so not had time to finish it

Does that include the KM-RC conversion or just the kit Jimmy?

Elliott Hopkins 13-03-2007 01:28 PM

No hurry Jimmy.

thom.p 17-04-2007 06:18 PM

come on jimmy, when is it finished?


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