I DONT WANT TO CHEAP OUT BUT !!!
 

i need to buy a brushless set up and unforntunaly as i am out of work i dont have £200 for top end esc and motor can anyone tell me a cheap esc and motor that will be good and reliable

check out the EZ-RUN combo's on the 'Bay... EZ-RUN been around for ages, Helis/planes mostly tho' I think...

never heard of them lol but will have a look

Be careful, if your going to do BRCA events then the motor needs to be on the homologation list.

With this in mind from purely a price / performance balance the Losi combos look very good value. I've not used them myself but have seen lots of them run and they seem to be a match for anything out there!

was told that a lot of them go fualty

3 mates had losi ones all ended up faulting

Ez-runs are great :)

I have several that I race including the 9t combo and the 5.5t combo, they are fast and have not given me any faults in about 10 months of racing. everyone else I know that also has them have only good things to say about them.

£75 will get you a 5.5t motor , esc and program card. £58 will get you a 9t motor, esc and program card. its a no brainer.

Losi gets my vote :thumbsup:

2nd hand, sensored, gets my vote

Agreed, I got hold of a second hand novak gtb and Orion vortex 7.5 for a grand total of £110

Ez-run....:thumbsup:

thanxs for all the help made me decide to go second hand as u say cheap as chips lol

speed passion lpf is a good choice, can be had for just over £100 new

agreed ！
 

:thumbsup: agreed ！

I was in this exact same dilemma about 2 weeks ago, after reading posts on here n chatting to a few folk, I thought I'd give the EZ run on the ebay a go, I have had it running for 2 weeks and my car is as quik as most other and faster than alot, no issues to speak of and the motor and esc arrived within a week. Clearly i've only had it 2 weeks so it could yet have a catastrophic failure on me but I took the view that no one has reported this (unlike the Losi) and if it does well i'l take a £70 risk every day of the week. :thumbsup:
I went for the more expensive 5.5 system though!

P.s. previous to this I bought a second hnd esc on here and had troubles getting it to run, although I had it fixed by some 1 it was still more hassle than it was worth and always was going to be 2nd hand!

I have a Losi and would recommend them, we have at least half a dozen at the club.

The initial problems occured with the firmware update, the ESC themselves were not faulty and all problems were corrected very quickly by Horizon UK.

With the latest Software and firmware they perform extremely well, the motors are on par with more expensive makes.

Add the ability to adjust many of the settings of the ESC via the pc and the value for money is very hard to beat:thumbsup:

hmmm firmware must have intstructed the ones i saw to let thier magic smoke out then

Its funny this, since the same thing happened with the Novak Mongoose micro speedo's, yet at our club we have about 8 of them running regularly, and none of them have gone pop yet??? Seems to me that peoples gearing is slightly out, as I had 2 Novak GTB's and nothing happened to them as well... :confused::confused:

Regarding the EZ Run
1. Do they have a Lipo cut off
2. Are they a standard shaft diameter for pinions

Just saying that we have been using them without problems, perhaps we get our gearing and programming correct.

From what I hear the latest Nosram & equiv with the super program 8 mode (at nearly twice the price for just the ESC) are frying motors, does that make them bad? No - but makes gearing even more crucial with them or they will fry your motors.

The Losi from our experience is excellent value for money and I repeat we have not had any problems except the initial problem of upgrading the firmware. In every day use they perform exceptionally well

EC power also sells a sensored set for 81 pounds with free shipping. Motor is not BRCA legal though.

http://www.ecpower.com.hk/index.php?...f322a4b0dbdc46

1.) The 60A version I have does (options are 'off', and 2.6 - 3.4V/cell in 0.2V steps)
2.) Yep

Incidentally, the 60A esc seems happy running a Reedy sensored motor too (without sensor wire, obviously) with no cogging etc (so far).

1.) even the 25A + 35A versions do.

1- you can set the lipo cut off on the ezrun systems from 3.0v per cell up to 3.4v per cell to protect your batterys (you can actually set it from 2.6v per cell but i dont really know why you would go this low? - anyone know?:confused:)

2- standard size for pinions

It may be because on some ESC's there is no allowance for a very short dip in the voltage - for example when you apply full throttle on a high grip track.
In cases like this the better ESC's recognise this as the voltage immediately rises and the ESC will operate as normal. Some will not recognise this and shut down as a safety measure, which can be frustating.
I know some drivers who have had this problem and run their ESC on Nimh mode rather than Lipo to stop this happening. They NEVER EVER run the battery down to anywhere near the limit as a precaution to ensure the nominal voltage is always higher than 6v

It may be a reason for putting the cut off down to 2.6V.

However, I repeat you must NOT run the battery down to below 6V under normal running

swayze08,

Why not a brushed ESC & motor. You would get outstanding top end stuff for very very cheap.

Brushless is a bit a fashion thing (I am a victim I know)

Brushless only advantage is the motor maintenance, but it is only valid for high power motor. Besides, the efficiency is much better on the ESC (the ESC doesn't need a heatsink & fan for heat produced), and equal efficiency on the motor for reasonable power motors (contrary to what some manufacturer's marketing pretends).

Try a brushed ESC + motor for (10£+2£) ... see trader corner on this site. You'll see later if you feel the requirement for brushless...

:woot:You are joking

As a long time advocate of brushed/nimh I recently changed to lipo/brushless and would recommend it anyone.

No more skimming, changing brushes - easier to get the right ratios.

At the club more equal racing now just about everbody is running brushless.

Oh yes I run 13.5 changed from 27T/19T hardly high power and the benefits still stand

As I said, the benefits are real for <13Turns brushed sure. The reason being that the cummutator suffers at that current going through, but above that it's OK

BR=(14x2T,19T + cyclone TC) BL(LRP3.5T LRP4.5T novak5.5T + GTB & sphere)
I run both and no I am not joking...

Brushed motor well maintained doesn't go wrong easily.

they are standard shaft, they also have lipo cutoff, with the ability to vary the cutoff voltage with the programming card.

i have been runnning the 9t ez run combo for about 6 months now and it hasnt missed a beat, they seem like really good quality, coming prewired with gold 4mm connectors on motor they are also easy to install and set up. only criticism i can make is throttle can be a bit harsh at low speeds, but this is the same for all sensorless brushless systems. one of my friends bought an exelorin system at same time as i bought the ez run, he is now on his third esc.

would like to know why budget systems like this arent on the brca list, they should be, even if is was just for f3 or f4 drivers

Unfortunately the Ezrun will never be on the BRCA approved list. Not for any technical reason as I'm sure it complies with the rules just as well as the few sensorless systems that are legal (and there are some).

No, it will never be approved because in order to be approved it must first be submitted to the BRCA for approval. Thats normally the job of the distributor and since the Hobbywing doesn't have one in the UK, and even if they did their contract with Speedpassion prohibits them selling Ezruns here that is never going to happen.

Daft but there it is.

Of course its only the motor that needs to be approved. So just buy a cheap, used motor off the list and run that without the sensor wires.......