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Damaged engine?
Well i went round my parents for lunch yesterday and my mum just said a comment in passing. 'A light comes on when i go round corners, it's been on an off for a couple of weeks' Ok, so straight away im thinking oil light, which is confirmed after turning over the engine and hearing the tappets make a noise like ive never heard in her car.
The oil was very low, not even registering. So i go to fill it up and low and behold i find some nice mayonnaise on the oil cap and inside the rocker? box. I know this can happen on short journeys, but it seemed quite excessive to me and im thinking head gasket. As far as i know it hasn't overheated yet. Anyone got any suggestions? The tappet noise did quieten down after the engine was to temp but it was still most definitely there, and i have not heard it on her car before so i am thinking that the engines been starved of oil and it's not a waiting game until detonation. It's a 1.6 Astra 2001. Cheers for any advise. |
head gasket or cylinder head is cracked in my experience....
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Yeah sounds like a head gasket to me...
get it towed and sorted asap... Bill wont be cheap either, used to cost about £5-600 on the rover 1.4/1.6/1.8 K series engine to sort out. |
The car isn't worth much, they wouldn't want to get it fixed, just buy a new one. Looks like their years of not getting a service done has caught up with them :woot:
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HELL YEAH!!
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if it's using water head gasket
but if not maybe ok you can get white stuff in rocker cover from condension if your not bothered about car to much run it for abit but keep checking water and oil |
If as you say there was no oil in it ,the head may have warped too. My daughters clio went with no warning cost us £398 for new gasket head skim and cam belt
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This was a whitey brown mix. The car probably does a max of 5-10 miles a day. Not sure about water, i didn't check it.
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what colour is the exhaust smoke my daughters blew like an F1 car
If they are only doing 5-10 miles a day then they really need a smaller engined car as the 1.6 will barely have time to warm up if they do 2.5 miles to the shop ,stop then 2.5 back |
I didnt see any. i will check. I take it if it's white then water is getting into the exhaust?
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If its white like you see on the F1,s then you,ve got water in the cylinders and the gasket has gone. try checking the plugs too Check the water level in the radiator fill up see if its low. If your lucky its only condensation because of such short journies , but the tappets may need seeing too due to lack of oil. If its drivable without clouds of white smoke coming from the back then get it to kwik fit they do a cheap service and can advise you of any other problems,
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Ok, cheers mate.
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Kwickfit, we have a nick name for tham at our dealership..............Krapfit, they send all thier cock ups to us!! normal F1 blow ups is oil you see burning, hence the flames, have you ever seen water produce a flame? |
I think from reading some of the comments on here, it's best to consult a trained professional, oil is not a coolant, its a lubricant, yes some cars have oil coolers but that is to stop the oil breaking down.
Southwell, The K series engines are renowned for heads going, but to be honest, yours doesn't sound like a head or a gasket has gone, if it is not using water and the expansion tank is not pressurising you might be ok, you would see lots of smoke if your losing water, also, have a look at the oil, has it gone milky, if it has then this is a good indication that water is in the oil and you either have a crack in the head or a blown gasket. Are they K series engines on hydraulic tappets? if you have low oil then it will sound tappety, top it up and run it for a minute and see if it quietens down. |
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Sorry, i picked up on what someone else said.
It will be fine then if it's not a K series :thumbsup::woot: |
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would that be like somone who has been in the motor trade as a technician for 26 years then?? oh thats me :woot: |
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There doesn't have to be white smoke for the head gasket to have gone, it seals between 3 different things, oil, water, and combustion, can go between oil and water, which is not uncommon.
I assume it's 16 valve from the year? If so I wouldn't worry too much about the head being cracked, have never heard of it happening on these engines (C20XE's without the coscast head are the vauxhall engines famed for this, although I've never heard of someone having one of those crack either :p) If it's 8 valve you've got even less to worry about, it'll run without oil and water for weeks and still come back for more :thumbsup: (slight exaggeration but they're bombproof) Either way it almost definitely needs a head gasket change imo! Also it wouldn't be unusual for a smaller engined car to warm up faster, especially if it's the smallblock variant in the range, less casting to warm up and also my little 1.2 8v regularly sees 4k revs daily in order to make it move rather than crawl, wouldn't be doing that in a larger engined car... I really wouldn't put any problems down to that, or agree they *need* a smaller engined car though. All 1.6 vaux engines I know of are smallblock anyway. |
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So would piss but thats not its main purpose :p
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personally i dont knock things like that till i have all the symptons. he would have to be loosing coolant for it to emulsify in the engine,(coolant going into sump). |
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wrong way round, do a little reseach and you will find oil runs allot hotter than coolant. |
Yes oil is for lubrication but if there is no lubrication then there,s friction . Friction =heat. I have had no problems with kwik fit they have always told me straight if the work needed doing and a few times they have done things for me with no charge unlike the main dealers who charge £85 p/h. If they can justify that let me know.
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Think of the cost to run the place, the people behind the desks etc, people like receptionists don't bring in money, they are a cost on a business although they are essential.
People still need paying even when cars are not being bought or serviced etc. Supposedly stratstone are on their last legs, a year or so ago, they were worth 900 million i think then things went tits up and now they are possibly going under, they have just closed a landrover dealership round the corner from me and the aston/jag one down the road is possibly going the same way.:thumbdown: When i took mine in a while ago all they had in was warranty work and factory recalls. :cry: |
A young lad I raced with did work experience with a company who service fords in chester. He told me that they dont even bother doing some of the stuff they charge you for and when they took it out for a road test he said they thrashed the arse off it. This was not just a one-off occurance . During the time he was there he said they did it loads of times, hence they dont get their hands on my car.
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I can believe it, i have heard similar stories, i know i have has 1/4 of a tank of fuel used in one of my cars when it was in for some work before.
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trust me the friction does far more damage way before any heat from lack of oil does if you doubt it drain your oil out and see how long it takes to overheat!! |
if you took it to a dealership they would possibly fit a new engine, "using a different garage" as they mostly have college lads who no nowt about how a car works but who can do services brakes and suspension and change tyres :yawn:
its all about the money, they dont want your car clogging up there garage for days on end why it takes 12 of them to put an engine in that could have done 40 services in the mean time. show a dealership so called mechanic a 20 year old car with proper rusted rounded bolts etc they would cry at the thought :lol::p its all in the technic which they dont teach you at college ;) |
mr southwell get your mum to call me and i will look at it pm me and i will give you me number
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Not if he uses Slick 50 :p |
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