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adey 01-05-2019 03:06 PM

Tlr team drivers
 
Have tlr got any team drivers in the uk now. Also is it worth getting a new 22 5.0 or is the 22 4.0 still worth look.?

NeilRalph77 01-05-2019 06:11 PM

Lee Fraser (Pank) is the recently appointed UK team manager, he is slowly trying to rebuild the UK 10th team, and there's probably currently a dozen or so team drivers.

jcb 09-05-2019 10:55 AM

I'm still running the 22 4.0 and making top half of A finals in the BRCA East of England regional championships.


Not run a 5.0 so can't compare the handling between the two.

It is worth noting that there seems to be a significant amount of different parts between the two cars, so wouldn't recommend getting a 4.0 and trying to upgrade it.

NeilRalph77 09-05-2019 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jcb (Post 998903)
It is worth noting that there seems to be a significant amount of different parts between the two cars, so wouldn't recommend getting a 4.0 and trying to upgrade it.

For sure, front arms, tower, top plate, steering arms, bellcranks, drag link, ballcups, servo mounts, side rails, battery brace, rear arms, slipper clutch, shocks, shell, chassis etc etc

Ross 09-05-2019 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcb (Post 998903)
I'm still running the 22 4.0 and making top half of A finals in the BRCA East of England regional championships.


Not run a 5.0 so can't compare the handling between the two.

It is worth noting that there seems to be a significant amount of different parts between the two cars, so wouldn't recommend getting a 4.0 and trying to upgrade it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeilRalph77 (Post 998907)
For sure, front arms, tower, top plate, steering arms, bellcranks, drag link, ballcups, servo mounts, side rails, battery brace, rear arms, slipper clutch, shocks, shell, chassis etc etc


Who carries spares for the 5.0 please.

NeilRalph77 09-05-2019 05:09 PM

And that's where the system falls down, Logic RC the UK importer will tell you that any of their affiliated stores can and will order parts as requested, they themselves do not sell directly to the public, so who actually has parts on the shelf???? The 5.0 looks very good on the track, nicely balanced and plenty of steering, there are a few in the NW but elsewhere I couldn't comment and that's the problem if no-one is buying them no-one will support them shops will not stock what they can't sell. I'm sure Lee can dib in with more information.

adey 09-05-2019 07:19 PM

Spoke to a couple of shops and they don't carry any spares for the 22 5.0 and seem reluctant to say if they will be able to get the spares. Does anyone know if there is a shop out there who has a spares backup for the car ?

stormyyyy 10-05-2019 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by adey (Post 998916)
Spoke to a couple of shops and they don't carry any spares for the 22 5.0 and seem reluctant to say if they will be able to get the spares. Does anyone know if there is a shop out there who has a spares backup for the car ?

wheel spin are one that actually have an option for 22 5.0 spares but it is all supplier stock

adey 10-05-2019 08:51 AM

They are a local shop to me. I asked about TLR parts when I went in and was told that they can order them but whether the supplier sends them is another matter.

brooksy 10-05-2019 10:00 AM

I bought a load of spares for my 4.0 from MB Models last year because they were no longer going to stock parts.
DMS also said they were having to think about stocking spares in future because not many people were running Losi.
I think a big thing is, most people like to run 2+4wd from the same manufacturer and as the Losi 4wd can trace its ancestry back more than 20yrs and is nowhere near as good as other 4wd’s people won’t buy the 2wd.
That’s not something that bothers me as I run an XB4 for 4wd.

NeilRalph77 10-05-2019 11:39 AM

Otley Modelsport will get spares on request but not sure how much stock they'll carry, not all the cars in the NW are team drivers so someone somewhere must have something.

adey 10-05-2019 12:03 PM

Has any shops mentioned issues with the supplier not having or sending the parts or upgrades out ?

NeilRalph77 10-05-2019 06:17 PM

You'd have to speak to the specific shop you wish to deal with, I think things got a bit rocky around the time of Horizon UK closing but I understand things have improved, I can't say yes get one things are all rosey because I don't know again speak to shops and see what they say.

stormyyyy 10-05-2019 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NeilRalph77 (Post 998937)
You'd have to speak to the specific shop you wish to deal with, I think things got a bit rocky around the time of Horizon UK closing but I understand things have improved, I can't say yes get one things are all rosey because I don't know again speak to shops and see what they say.

I would agree with this entirely. I spoke to my local shops and asked a few questions and decided I couldn't take the risk of having to wait an unknown amount of time for a part to turn up if I broke something. This meant I had to go a different route, the irony of this being left car less after selling my 22 4.0 and then the new schumacher being delayed. Oh the joys of choosing a new car.

Darren Boyle 10-05-2019 11:01 PM

All parts we have ordered at DMS so far have all arrived promptly. The demand for TLR has certainly taken a HUGE hit recently, no question.

Sales for the TLR 22 5.0 AC have been at best, poor for us. However interest is slowly growing once more and if it continues to we will once more expand our range of parts in stock inline with the sort of levels we used to be renowned for keeping...

NeilRalph77 11-05-2019 08:45 AM

:thumbsup:Nice one Darren.

brooksy 11-05-2019 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Darren Boyle (Post 998942)
All parts we have ordered at DMS so far have all arrived promptly. The demand for TLR has certainly taken a HUGE hit recently, no question.

Sales for the TLR 22 5.0 AC have been at best, poor for us. However interest is slowly growing once more and if it continues to we will once more expand our range of parts in stock inline with the sort of levels we used to be renowned for keeping...

Hopefully it keeps picking up����

I recently heard a rumour that there’s a new 4wd in the pipeline. I don’t suppose anybody knows of this?.

stuart slmcc 13-05-2019 08:24 AM

2 weeks at a guess

WHITTLER555 27-05-2019 07:48 PM

Hi Ok, so this will sound biased as I'm a TLR Team driver but the new car is a big improvement over the 4.0.

I say this from running a 4.0 for the last two years. The 5.0 AC is a lot more agile, better turn in, less likely to grip roll, feels generally more alive and faster.

If you add a ball diff it even works in the wet with very few changes to set up so no need to buy two full cars.

We have a demo car which is all set up for people to use and it is visiting the oOple Series venues so come and find me or Lee under the TLR gazebo and have a go.

I'm hopeful we can arrange a test day somewhere later in the year, watch this space!

dibble34 27-05-2019 09:05 PM

I tried so hard with the 22 4.0. Car felt ok, felt like I was driving hard and it never did anything strange. However I was slow, didn’t seem to matter what I tried. I am an average club racer, but the final straw was the lack of shop support. Was the only one at my club with the tlr for over a year :cry:

brooksy 29-05-2019 06:47 PM

I still run the 4.0...best 2wd I’ve had since the xx. Best results with it at regional level as well.
After 2yrs of running it and not breaking a thing I’ve just fitted some new parts to it to freshen it up:lol:

daz75 29-05-2019 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WHITTLER555 (Post 999349)
Hi Ok, so this will sound biased as I'm a TLR Team driver but the new car is a big improvement over the 4.0.

I say this from running a 4.0 for the last two years. The 5.0 AC is a lot more agile, better turn in, less likely to grip roll, feels generally more alive and faster.

If you add a ball diff it even works in the wet with very few changes to set up so no need to buy two full cars.

We have a demo car which is all set up for people to use and it is visiting the oOple Series venues so come and find me or Lee under the TLR gazebo and have a go.

I'm hopeful we can arrange a test day somewhere later in the year, watch this space!

I'd love to have a go of one. I suspect my lack of skills round the setup side of things means id be just as crap with it as i am with my 3.0 though

Pank 29-05-2019 08:24 PM

Get yourself to any oople series round, we have 1 built up for people to try.

brooksy 29-05-2019 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by daz75 (Post 999414)
I'd love to have a go of one. I suspect my lack of skills round the setup side of things means id be just as crap with it as i am with my 3.0 though

You would notice as huge difference:thumbsup:

daz75 29-05-2019 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pank (Post 999417)
Get yourself to any oople series round, we have 1 built up for people to try.

Virtually impossible to get a pass out for 1 day never mind 2 :thumbdown:

millser 31-05-2019 08:40 AM

hi i race on grass down in cornwall.

would tlr 5.0 AC or DC be better?

WHITTLER555 03-06-2019 09:31 PM

That Millser is a tricky one, do you always race on grass? If you bought the AC I would recommend a ball diff instead of the gear diff if you are using it on grass or loose surface or wet Astro?

shaun m 03-06-2019 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WHITTLER555 (Post 999528)
That Millser is a tricky one, do you always race on grass? If you bought the AC I would recommend a ball diff instead of the gear diff if you are using it on grass or loose surface or wet Astro?

I’m just about to order my ac , would you recommend any option to fit from the off ? Cheers

WHITTLER555 04-06-2019 05:53 PM

Hi, options I reccomend are the ally steering bell cranks and drag link and the ally servo horn.

shaun m 04-06-2019 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WHITTLER555 (Post 999560)
Hi, options I reccomend are the ally steering bell cranks and drag link and the ally servo horn.

Cheers damo 👍🏼

millser 19-06-2019 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WHITTLER555 (Post 999528)
That Millser is a tricky one, do you always race on grass? If you bought the AC I would recommend a ball diff instead of the gear diff if you are using it on grass or loose surface or wet Astro?

Hi thanks for reply 99% of the time run on grass has its my home track


AC or DC

WHITTLER555 21-06-2019 09:19 PM

We had some wet weather in one of the finals at the oOple Series at Soutjport last week. I ran my ball diff AC car on the wet Astro and it was very good. Won that leg of the B final, the other two team cars run by Lee Fraser and Tom Pattison both got in the A final.

Ross 29-06-2019 12:37 PM

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The build starts today. Hopefully it will be done for Wednesday night at Stotfold :thumbsup::thumbsup:

daz75 29-06-2019 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross (Post 1000069)
The build starts today. Hopefully it will be done for Wednesday night at Stotfold :thumbsup::thumbsup:

I see you have a Schumacher lay down too be interesting to hear the differences

Ross 29-06-2019 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by daz75 (Post 1000084)
I see you have a Schumacher lay down too be interesting to hear the differences


I'm building it for a mate, but I will have a go Wednesday :D. If I like it ill get one for my boy to replace his B6.

Apart from the electrics its done :D.

Really easy build and everything fitted great. You get the correct parts in the bags to be able to put the kit set up on it. The shocks have to be some of the nicest I've built in a long time. The pistons where marked with the hole size on them and fitted great. I like that the spring retaining cup screws to the bottom shock mount, so it can't come off.
The gearbox case has little inserts that go next the diff eccentrics to remind you which eccentric you have in, I liked it :p. The eccentrics are also rock solid :woot::woot::D.

The battery holder is very much likes other on the market, but one little part I liked was that it located in to the side pods as well as screwing down to them ;)

Ill try and get some pictures up tomorrow.

Ross 30-06-2019 06:13 PM

All done. Schey wheel are only on it to set the ride weight ;)

https://photos.smugmug.com/Rcbuild/T...IMG_3787-M.jpg

Derka 02-09-2019 10:06 PM

How are you guys finding the 22 5.0 AC on carpet?

Also, who stocks parts for these TLR buggies in the UK?

Ross 03-09-2019 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Derka (Post 1005479)
How are you guys finding the 22 5.0 AC on carpet?

Also, who stocks parts for these TLR buggies in the UK?


I race at Stotfold, so not on carpet, but it is quit high grip. I’ve changed to AE springs as that’s what most set ups show. I’m not the fastest driver in the world, but enjoy driving the car, it’s very easy to drive and jumps well, and I do Ok with it. It only on its 3rd meeting and playing with the set up it keeps getting better.

A mate I race with is regularly in the top 3 at Stotfold with his.

I got my car and spares from Steve at www.rcmodelstore.co.uk. He’s mainly a flying/RTR store and won’t show much on the website. He not been doing the “race car” thing long but is willing to grow it with the “Losi” 5.0.

I would definitely give him a try. If you are after spares then as Steve is new to the Losi brand it would be worth giving him part numbers until he finds his way with it all.

Hope that helps.

NeilRalph77 03-09-2019 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Derka (Post 1005479)
How are you guys finding the 22 5.0 AC on carpet?

Also, who stocks parts for these TLR buggies in the UK?

If you read back on this post, shops like Modelsport, DMS, Wheelspin are all mentioned you can order direct from Horizon de or any shop with a logic rc affiliation.

Ross 03-09-2019 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daz75 (Post 1000084)
I see you have a Schumacher lay down too be interesting to hear the differences


I liked the Schumacher at lot, but I found I had to drive it hard to keep up with the guys that race at my pace :). I would say a lot of that would be down to the set up. If I'd spent more time with the car I may have found a set up that I liked.

But, after a go with my mates 22 5.0 at Stotfold I found it easier to drive and more forgiving on his kit set up than the Laydown. I ordered one a few days later :thumbsup:.

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...-Hkm9qV3-M.jpg

https://photos.smugmug.com/photos/i-...-djKBJjB-M.jpg


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