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J_WOODY 28-02-2009 08:58 PM

Mid-2 sx
 
heres my attempt at making 2wd mid motor, i've used a T4 for the donor chassis, i just need to remake the white plastic prototype chassis plate in carbon fibre, and sort out some battery straps,

http://www.oople.com/forums/picture....pictureid=1430
http://www.oople.com/forums/picture....pictureid=1431
http://www.oople.com/forums/picture....pictureid=1432

Garry Driffill 28-02-2009 09:10 PM

This looks interesting!

Tom3012 28-02-2009 09:43 PM

are you playing with it tomorrow??? :thumbsup:

J_WOODY 01-03-2009 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom3012 (Post 213500)
are you playing with it tomorrow??? :thumbsup:

I'm gonna wait till the outdoor season starts, i've got a few extra things i'm gonna work on before its ready;), possibly a carbon fibre tub chassis :drool::thumbsup:

J_WOODY 04-03-2009 03:41 PM

ok, a little update on whats hopefully happening with this creation.


* carbon fibre tub chassis / 2 in the process of being made ...2wks away (will fit stick or saddle pack)

* carbon fibre battery brace .... 2wks away

* a new custom made front bulkhead, c/f top plate with additional inner camber mount holes, a new c/f shock tower with additional shock mounting positions, and the shocks to the front of the tower, this new front end will have adjustable width and rake .....prototype 3/4 wks away....this new front end will also fit a B4 and X-6

* the plan is, that the only B4 parts to be usd on this car are the front wishbones, castor blocks, steering arms and servo saver assembly.


please bear in mind that this creation is being made for my own pleasure and could end up being rubbish :lol:

the next update will be once the chassis' are made, the photos will first appear on oOple :thumbsup:.

YZ~10 04-03-2009 05:00 PM

that looks cool, keep us posted:thumbsup:

Chrislong 05-03-2009 10:04 AM

Wow, great work!! Hope it works out :thumbsup:

ben 05-03-2009 10:11 AM

Get a big wing on it ;)

Looks ace! :thumbsup:

J_WOODY 05-03-2009 10:45 AM

.......

benknight13 05-03-2009 08:10 PM

Looking good jay

Losi_110 06-03-2009 02:56 PM

Wow looks cool dude,I've got my own CAT based 2WD in the plans but as yet it's only on paper, it's a bit of a mish mash at the moment with several ideas for the front end and a re-designed gearbox housing :D. Keep us posted as to how it handles.

J_WOODY 06-03-2009 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Losi_110 (Post 215577)
Wow looks cool dude,I've got my own CAT based 2WD in the plans but as yet it's only on paper, it's a bit of a mish mash at the moment with several ideas for the front end and a re-designed gearbox housing :D. Keep us posted as to how it handles.

i've got a new front end and rear gearbox housing designed , the cad drawings will be going to the machinist next week :thumbsup:,
i'll hopefully have the first Tub chassis with me @ srcc this Sunday if anyone wants to check it out

Tom3012 06-03-2009 05:23 PM

all sounds promising!!! whos the driver???

James 06-03-2009 05:23 PM

Looks cool!!

2wd schuey with a tub chassis - top stuff :thumbsup:

J_WOODY 06-03-2009 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom3012 (Post 215607)
all sounds promising!!! whos the driver???

.......

sly 06-03-2009 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_WOODY (Post 215610)
one of the most respected drivers in the hobby, he's the man you see about set ups :woot::thumbsup:. more info will be revealed very soon


It`s me:thumbsup:

J_WOODY 06-03-2009 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sly (Post 215619)
It`s me:thumbsup:

chassis 1 + 2 are taken, r u putting your name on chassis no.3 :thumbsup:

Tom3012 06-03-2009 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_WOODY (Post 215621)
chassis 1 + 2 are taken, r u putting your name on chassis no.3 :thumbsup:


How much!!!??? :p:D

Rebelrc 06-03-2009 07:04 PM

What benifits does this car have over an x6/b4/xxx ?

J_WOODY 06-03-2009 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rebelrc (Post 215650)
What benifits does this car have over an x6/b4/xxx ?

none yet, its still a prototype, but it will be bling :thumbsup: , first tests will be next week:D

J_WOODY 06-03-2009 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom3012 (Post 215635)
How much!!!??? :p:D

loadsa money:lol: chassis no.3 will be a revision of the first 2, and will fit the new gearbox housing thats coming soon, and have better weight distribution:thumbsup:

J_WOODY 07-03-2009 04:37 PM

it works !
 
Quick update:
the first chassis is done, i've given it a quick run on wet tarmac, and so far it all seems ok. it accelerated straight, and its turns in without losing the tail end (slight understeer), although the rear does feel very light. i'll be adding some extra weight on it for tomorrow, at the moment theres none.
i'll upload a photo soon, :thumbsup:

J_WOODY 07-03-2009 05:28 PM

some pics...
 
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/o...P1010102-1.jpg
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/o...P1010103-1.jpg

big air 07-03-2009 05:34 PM

looks sweet mate :thumbsup:

ryan_93 07-03-2009 05:44 PM

looks great jay :thumbsup:

Tom3012 07-03-2009 07:11 PM

Looks really promising!!! who made the chassis? was it expensive? also, who made the shell???

:drool:

Rebelrc 07-03-2009 07:21 PM

Shell looks like a cat xls from yesteryear....cool;)

J_WOODY 07-03-2009 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom3012 (Post 215843)
Looks really promising!!! who made the chassis? was it expensive? also, who made the shell???

:drool:

Made by moi, and i also made the 4 part mould myself, (i've done toolmaking before)
it was cost of materials only,
and its a cat xls repro shell by kamtec.

Tom3012 07-03-2009 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J_WOODY (Post 215848)
Made by moi, and i also made the 4 part mould myself, (i've done toolmaking before)
it was cost of materials only,
and its a cat xls repro shell by kamtec.


Does that mean you'd be able to make me a carbon chassis of my slim B4?? Or would it be a lot of hassle?

J_WOODY 07-03-2009 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom3012 (Post 215849)
Does that mean you'd be able to make me a carbon chassis of my slim B4?? Or would it be a lot of hassle?

bring it with you tomorrow, and i'll look it over, there's a good chance its do-able, if yours uses a standard b4 rear, it can be done with modifications

Tom3012 07-03-2009 07:45 PM

cool... its basically a B4 with the sides cut off to make it slimmer :p

any idea how much it would cost? roughly...

:thumbsup:

J_WOODY 08-03-2009 06:08 PM

1st race update : southport indoors

took it out in practice, with worn minipins,and added approx 80grams in weight to the rear, and it was surprisingly good for a first run, althoudh the rear end did feel lose. i passed the transmitter to the local quickest driver, he took it out for a few laps, and pushed it a lot harder than i could, Chris's comment was that it needed new tyres on the rear, to stop it stepping out. so for the heats i put some new rubber on.
I'd entered into the 4wd heat, just in case it broke, and so i could finish the meeting with the SX. All 3 rounds i performed very consistantly, and i was giving some of the 4wd's a run for there money. The cars got loads of turn in and putting new tyres on really helped, and allowed me to push it a little harder.
i also passed the transmitter to Baz Weldon after the first round, and he said it drives similar to an x-6, but its a bit light at the rear, all in all, i'm VERY happy with it, considering i did nothing with the set up.
the next thing to happen with this creation, will be chassis no.2 for the test driver and then new gearbox housing, which will move the the weight further back.. i can't wait.:thumbsup:

Jay:D

Tom3012 08-03-2009 06:29 PM

the car looked really promising today on the track :thumbsup:

J_WOODY 08-03-2009 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom3012 (Post 216134)
the car looked really promising today on the track :thumbsup:


thanks Tom, its a pity i didn't have the balls to do the double that eveyone else was doing, i was losing loads of time through that section, people were just jumping over me, and then i'd get them back through the next section... good fun out handling 4wd's though:thumbsup:, even Sx's

Wacker 2 08-03-2009 08:25 PM

Looks great... Im doing a simular thing myself, am in the middle of developing a carbon fibre chassis for the X6 to allow a saddle pack lipo rather than 1 long one from left to right... plus it will look pimp like yours and my mates S2.

I was looking at using Fibrelite as I beleive it is them that make the carbon fibre chassis for the atomic carbon S2.

I've got some prototype alloy peices being made as we speak and then its just sorting out the chassis. It will be a tub chassis, flat at the rear but will need a kick up at the front simular to the X6 and the B4 (not sure of the exact angle of kick up)

blitzboy 08-03-2009 08:57 PM

i wondered where that shell was jay ,thanks mate for letting me do the paint work on your project , next time tell me and ill get busy with it for ya mate :cool:

J_WOODY 08-03-2009 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blitzboy (Post 216226)
i wondered where that shell was jay ,thanks mate for letting me do the paint work on your project , next time tell me and ill get busy with it for ya mate :cool:

it was on one of my vintage schueys, i ended designing the mid-2 chassis to fit that shell.... its my alltime favourite shell.

i'll be sending a shell your way soon, once i've designed it:lol:

Losi_110 10-03-2009 11:41 AM

Looking nice fella, the build quality looks really good from the pics, just like an off the shelf conversion kit :thumbsup:.

91notch5.0 12-03-2009 02:41 AM

very impressed by the way you kept the shocks in front of the arms also... BIG THUMBS UP!!

J_WOODY 15-03-2009 04:51 PM

ok, a little update on how this projects going:

since the first track tests, a lot of things have been changed to the set up, they are:
swapped rear wishbones round, modified the rear shock mount so the shocks are now to the rear of the wishbones, i've increased anti squat, and gone from a red spring to yellow at the rear, shortened the wheelbase by 2mm, and removed all additional weight, all of these changes have made the car a lot easier to drive, and less nervous, it now likes to be pushed, and only felt a little unstable under hard braking.

its getting better :thumbsup:, i can't wait to race it outdoors:D


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