Schumacher L1
 

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DescriptionPart NoPrice Including 20% UK VAT.Quantity CAT L1 - KitK176£479.99http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car%20...button_buy.gif
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• 2 Channel Radio
• Motor
• Servo
• Electric Speed Control
• Tyres
• Long Boss Motor Pinion
• 2s Shorty or Saddle Lipo
• Paint for Bodyshell

Power Source: ELECTRIC Model Type: 4WD, OFF-ROAD, COMPETITION Length: 375mm Wheelbase: 280-286mm Width: 250mm Top Speed: 40 MPH+ Features
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• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Alloy chassis side stiffeners.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg 3 Gear transmission for opposite motor rotation, improves agility and steering on high traction surfaces.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Lightweight layshaft and side gears.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Small, low rotating mass gear differentials. With 3 position height adjustment, to adjust for driveshaft plunge and mixed track conditions.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Durable polyurethane drivebelts.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg FAB (Front Adjustable Brake System) with larger 22 tooth pulleys included.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Low CofG pinned and centre mounted motor mount.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Alloy front transmission housings with steering mounting for increased rigidity.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Alloy upper front housings with lower CofG.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Alloy rear lower transmission housings with improved belt tensioner.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Lighter alloy rear upper housings for low CofG.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Lightweight, twin pad slipper clutch with Ultra Fine adjustment spring.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Strong steel universal driveshafts with 5mm axles.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Hard anodised 12mm wheel hex.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Larger 5x11x4 layshaft and pulley bearings increase durability and precision.
• Optional ball diff available.
• Includes 33 super precision ball bearings.

Chassis

• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Hard anodised 2mm 7075-T6 alloy chassis with 4mm carbon stiffeners.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Vertical top decks for increased linear flex.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Alloy floating servo mount pinned into the chassis.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Adjustable shorty locating system. Enables ultra precise fitment.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Multiple Ackerman position alloy centre track rod.
• Shorty and saddle LiPo compatible.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Cable management system for neater wire installs.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Lightweight battery posts.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Lower, smaller front bumper - housing front roll bar and suspension.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Front wing mount.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Aerox Body and Schumacher wing.
• Battery thumb screws.

Suspension

• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Wishbones with new improved geometry.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Geometry steering yokes.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Rear hub carrier. Featuring new vari-length wishbone and hub geometry.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Hub Carriers.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Stronger 3.5mm diameter front inboard pins.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Front pivot strap inserts for front track width adjustment. And new 8°, 10°, 12° front rake adjustment.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Anti Roll bars included with centralising collar.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Strong, rigid 4mm carbon fibre shock brackets.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Lightweight front shock tower cover to protect your car and the track from damage.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Front wheelbase adjustment for improved tuning.

Shocks

• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Big bore shocks with big bore “CORE” springs, titanium nitride shafts, twin o-ring sealing, optimised shock body.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Ball mounted two piece shock cap for easier building, maintenance, vented option and lighter weight.
• http://www.racing-cars.com/images/NEW_logo_50.jpg Threaded spring collars for better location.
• Super lightweight design.

Looks like a very nice car, but ouch on the RRP!

With the beefed up wishbone I had hoped for more reinforcement elsewhere, to be honest. And nearly 500 quid... Does that include free replacement parts & tires or something? :lol:

Especially when the world champ winning yoke can be had for £20 less :woot:

Thats the RRP... the RRP on the world champ winning yoke is £509.99.

Most shops selling both kits for £50 less than RRP therefore the world champ winning yoke is still, er, more.

Both are still way more than I'm prepared to pay for a toy car tho!

Same here

Looking at those pictures of the L1 I reckon they are CAD drawings not pictures of the real car

see here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36qule-DbT4

To be fair, the K2 was 380 rrp, the new cat has the alloy gear box tops included which were a £30 option for each, so if you can get the new kit for £440 it’s the same price as the K2, I’m fine with that tbh oh and the inclusion of the roll bar kits which were £13 each

Surely a cheaper car with upgrade available means club racers are more likely buy the cheaper option and upgrade if required

£430 for it at mbmodels

For clay/outdoors an undertray would be desirable ...

Looks a very nice buggy :thumbsup:

After a long time Schumacher changed front and rear arms of their buggies...
I hope new one are harder........
I’m going to try in my cat k2

Like the look of the car but I can see that you may need to get the optional alloy castor blocks for the front and also the need for long boss pinions which would suggest that none of mine would be able to fit due to location of the motor.

it comes with alloy gear box tops, anti roll/sway bars, FAB, alloy steering rack in the kit.
its something like 95% new and i doubt the arms will fit the k2. most of the team ran the 10 degree kit caster blocks on the k2, 10 are on this after lots of testing.
if you watch the the live feed on facebook, its had some high speed impact testing done .

ill be upgrading without a thought!

On order :thumbsup:

Based on the exploded diagram, the rear arms may fit. However, according to the website, it looks like the front arm inner hinge pins have a different diameter than the K2 version.

So what are the pros and cons of belts over shaft driven 4wds?

I think, Belts accelerate faster, the motor is in the correct direction to generate grip, also in the correct direction for faster corner speed.

At the Pictures of Orlowsky's L1 at the EOS from last Weekend, it looks like, he was using standard pinion, so may it is not naccesary to run long boss pinions ony!?

enclose is the link to RedRc Gallery:
http://eos.redrc.net/gallery/3/?envi...ery-wrap-21146

PS.: i was there on saturday to watch the races, the Cat L1 was looking even more incredible in nature.

Short boss do fit, long boss are more secure

That is good to know :)

I really like the look of the car and am interested in the fact that in the pictures there was no alterations in the front cactus tyres but am not sure if that is before they had any pins cut off before a run.

I went through some of the exploded diagrams of the current CAT range on the Schumacher website and comparing them I think that the L1 looks a very nice and simplistic design and should do well.

Before they actually run it. If you look at the action shots, then the same heavy trimming was used as the other teams. Not an issue, it just means that the L1 has a lot more natural steering than it's predecessor (which is a good thing)and that the front cactus isn't great out of the pack on EOS (which we already know).

It looks nice, well thought out and quick. Only potential drawback the slightly fragile top decks, but should be a good car.

What makes you say they are fragile?

before i take the plunge,a couple of questions......the optional ball diffs,are they the ones from the k2?and as i run on low grip stuff is it possible to run rear shocks on back of wishbones?thanks.

I am thinking that the ball diff will be more like the KC ball diff as the K2 ones are too big. The KC ball diff pulley is different in size to the KC gear diff pulley

If you look at pics 3 and 5 on the Schumacher page you can see holes in the rear wishbones and also rear mounting of the shock tower

I went through the instructions yesterday and to my novice eyes the belts all look very complicated is it easier to install setup and maintain than it looks?

It is easier to maintain than it looks from the exploded diagram. I think that the L1 is the simplest and tidiest layout I have seen so far in the CAT range.

Won't be as easy as the leading shaftdrive platforms for that, but will be easy enough esp once you get used to it. Wouldn't let that put you off.

But it will be faster and more efficient than any shaft drive car, proven :thumbsup:

Fastest 4wd out there at the moment!

Still no answer!

Proven how?

If you read the EOS on RED RC :thumbsup:

Links???

cmgreen stop spitting your dummy
everyone is entitled to have there free say:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Not spitting anything :p:p

And if you cant be bothered to find it on Red RC i cant be bothered to post it :thumbsup:

Maybe he means this one about an X-ray win :woot:

http://eos.redrc.net/2018/03/coelho-...t-eos-austria/

Anybody knows what is actually included in the kit in terms of springs and roll bars ?
The exploded diagram shows part numbers that refer to the full spring set, or full set of roll bars. It is unlikely to be all of them... But then why does it not mention the actual part number for the specific spring or roll bar included...
Thanks !

I‘m actually pritty excited about the cat L1, i do realy like the touring stile center mount of the transmission and the kind of mounting of the top decks!
If i would race more often, i would get one for myself, but i still have my, at the release in 2016 bought and built, never drove K2, full with all new electrics standing at the shelf, so it is still virgin....:)

May someone is looking for a K2, with quit a lot of spares, i would be willing to talk about! ;):D

CAT L1 set up sheets?
 

Hi all, does anyone know where to find the editable set up sheets for the L1 its not in manual or on the Schumacher websites :confused:, PETITRC have a link but it doesn't work as of yet.