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footey 09-01-2007 12:33 PM

xx4we any hopups
 
hi if i get a xx4we new from a shop is there any hopups i need to get at the same time before i build it and then find out i need somthing cheers for the help

Swiss 09-01-2007 12:36 PM

Excellent straight out of box. Will need some differant shock springs, silvers at front and reds on the rear. Some people run the one way in the front. and you will want to change the front belt from a blue to the green one.

footey 09-01-2007 01:28 PM

thanks for the advice what about titanium turnbukles and white cups are they a advantage

jimmy 09-01-2007 01:31 PM

the stock turnbuckles pull out SO easy, the threads are naff, I touched something at tiverton and it ruined my best run.

cabbynate 09-01-2007 01:45 PM

I just posted these under the X-5 thread:
http://www.penguinrc.com/products/losi.html
Looks like a good idea to me.

footey 09-01-2007 01:48 PM

swiss as said change the front belt to green should i change all the belts

cabbynate 09-01-2007 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by footey (Post 20118)
swiss as said change the front belt to green should i change all the belts

The two other belts should already be the heavy duty green ones.

cmgreen 09-01-2007 01:51 PM

Titanium Layshafts from 1hg.com.

Dont think any one else is running these except me.

jimmy 09-01-2007 01:58 PM

Can you actually buy them ? I thought HG was no more ? I tried to buy them ages ago and got nowhere

cmgreen 09-01-2007 02:11 PM

Got mine in 1999, had 3 xx-4 since then. I think they reall make the transmission even better on the xx-4.

Barry Williams 09-01-2007 03:07 PM

I would get the alloy motor clamp for definate & try to get a set of the outdrive savers, thats the only change done to my sons car & both seem very worthwhile.

Swiss 09-01-2007 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barry Williams (Post 20135)
I would get the alloy motor clamp for definate & try to get a set of the outdrive savers, thats the only change done to my sons car & both seem very worthwhile.

The turnbuckles that come with the kit are titanium. Regarding the white cups, I will be investing in some very soon but that's because the old ones are a little tired, (full year of nationals/regionals and euro's). I use the cups out of the kit on the front and the very original cups on the back, (not sure if you can still get these). As I had a little trouble with the rear turnbuckle cups breaking. I replaced the rear diff halfs with the steel ones, and used a Schumacher thrust race in the rear diff, this prelongs the life of the diff. Yes an alloy motor clamp is worth the investment, also I use the original motor plate as the one out of the kit, (off centre) I found leaves the motor slightly pretruding from the underside of the chassis, which can cause damage to the motor off the jumps. This is a personal choice, as my racing colleague uses the off centre motor plate with no trouble at all.

jimmy 09-01-2007 04:01 PM

The stock turnbuckles might be titanium, but its a special blend of titanium called "cheese titanium", specially developed to bend at the first impact I think. contains approx 20% real cheddar. The worst thing is the threads though, I think a lot of people replace these turnbuckles with some lunsford items

Swiss 09-01-2007 04:06 PM

Never had one bend myself....(that is the original ones) I don't think any rc parts labelled as titanium are 100% titanium.. The maching costs would be tremendous! Also I run the orginal ones on the XXXCR and haven't had any of these bend.

losixxx 09-01-2007 04:11 PM

guess your just an animal then jimmy :D

one-way is a good hop-up, think the apex/dcracing/lesro one is better than the losi one.
b2 front brace on my car saved me a few wish bones.
also the x-factory front hub screw's seem to have cured the issue with front wishbones breaking.

jimmy 09-01-2007 04:14 PM

Must be! haha
I think it was you who told me about the rod ends pulling off easily when it happened at tiverton!

footey 09-01-2007 04:45 PM

silly question what does the alloy motor clamp give me compared to the standard one

jimmy 09-01-2007 05:07 PM

Stops the motor moving :) the stock plastic one simply doesn't - so I am told!

FifteenthNeo 09-01-2007 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by losixxx (Post 20146)
guess your just an animal then jimmy :D

one-way is a good hop-up, think the apex/dcracing/lesro one is better than the losi one.
b2 front brace on my car saved me a few wish bones.
also the x-factory front hub screw's seem to have cured the issue with front wishbones breaking.

I suppose running the B2 brace AND the X-Factory hubs screws wont hurt will it?

Has anyone tried the different shock tower braces that are about?

tyreman 09-01-2007 07:01 PM

If youv'e got a spare XXX front brace that will do the job, rather than buy a B2/3 one.

andy110m 09-01-2007 10:57 PM

I've bought some front CVD's. I'm told the bearings need replacing for a different size. Can anyone confirm this and even better give me the size of the required ones, are they the same as the rears?

barnyard 10-01-2007 12:00 AM

you are correct the bearings are the same as those used for the rear hubs and not the ones used for the original driveshafts.

XXXCRRacer 10-01-2007 04:54 AM

On my XX4 I run the Associated B2 front brace. Also I run titanium ball studs. An 86 spur gear. And a custom billet Motor clamp. And I run the green belt up front instead of the blue one. And CVD's up front instead of Universals.

cabbynate 10-01-2007 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy (Post 20143)
The stock turnbuckles might be titanium, but its a special blend of titanium called "cheese titanium", specially developed to bend at the first impact I think. contains approx 20% real cheddar. The worst thing is the threads though, I think a lot of people replace these turnbuckles with some lunsford items

Lonsford makes the turnbuckles for Losi. If you compare the authentic Lunsfords to the Losi's you will see that the Losi's have longer threads. They always break/bend in the threads. The kit turnbuckles are also to short. That's part of the reason they pull out so easy. Lunsford makes them to Losi's specs and size....... Gotta blame this one on Losi.

cmgreen 10-01-2007 08:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XXXCRRacer (Post 20297)
On my XX4 I run the Associated B2 front brace. Also I run titanium ball studs. An 86 spur gear. And a custom billet Motor clamp. And I run the green belt up front instead of the blue one. And CVD's up front instead of Universals.

Where did you get you titanium ball studs from?

Also DMS RACING sell titanium layshafts for xx-4 pat number tir9535

cabbynate 13-01-2007 02:17 PM

The Penguin kit
 
3 Attachment(s)
here ya go mate's........;)

cutting edge 13-01-2007 03:08 PM

Nice Shock tower stiffening plates are they the Fibre-Lyte plates
as seen on there website £8.80 each ????????

cabbynate 13-01-2007 05:52 PM

I think it's woven carbon fiber. Not sure what Fiber Lite is.. Sorry

FifteenthNeo 13-01-2007 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabbynate (Post 20770)
I think it's woven carbon fiber. Not sure what Fiber Lite is.. Sorry

Looks like those were made by Penguin RC http://www.penguinrc.com/products/losi.html#xx4

cabbynate 13-01-2007 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FifteenthNeo (Post 20772)
Looks like those were made by Penguin RC http://www.penguinrc.com/products/losi.html#xx4

They are.;)

cutting edge 13-01-2007 06:35 PM

Fibre-lyte is a uk company that makes these sort of things

http://www.fibre-lyte.co.uk/

Very good company they made the Andy East SD Chassie that won him the British TC championship 2 years ago i think it was .................

cabbynate 13-01-2007 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutting edge (Post 20774)
Fibre-lyte is a uk company that makes these sort of things

http://www.fibre-lyte.co.uk/

Very good company they made the Andy East SD Chassie that won him the British TC championship 2 years ago i think it was .................

Taking a look I see they make just about everything in carbon fiber.
Very nice....

cmgreen 14-01-2007 10:42 AM

Fybre lyte are a excellent company, they made me a one off Boss-cat tub chassis, £80 ten years ago, but it was well worth it back then.

super__dan 14-01-2007 10:27 PM

I agree with Jimmy, the Losi TI buckles are crap. They do bend so much more easily than pucka Lunsford ones, also if you use even a medium/long link on the rear you have only a couple of threads inside.

You must change the front UJ's to CVD's or LCD's as the UJ's can't take any decent power.

4times 17-01-2007 03:30 PM

will the associated b4 or b3 turnbuckles fit the xx4?

XXXCRRacer 21-01-2007 01:56 AM

Here is my hopup. Enjoy![IMG]http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...1/100_1417.jpg[/IMG]


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