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JJ The Boat Wizzard 08-02-2009 12:26 AM

List Of B44 Parts That Fit BJ4
 
Hi All

Im After a List Of Parts for the B44 That Will Fit The BJ4 With Little Or No Modifications So I Know What Parts To Get To Take Racin With Me
PLEASE HELP! , Lets Start With Wishbones (Suspension Arms) as ive broken 1 on my Bj4 Will The B44 Ones Fit?

Many Thanks
John

jordan1 08-02-2009 05:36 PM

bj4-b44
 
yes b44 wishbones fit te bj4 with slight amount of dremmle work. i percenly changed to tamiya 501 front wishbones because alot stronger
jordan

Mike Hudson 11-02-2009 02:16 PM

All the shocks parts are direct fit, diffs and diff gears/pinions are the same, B44 front and rear driveshafts fit, rear wishbones are identicle, front wishbones do fit but the inner part of the wishbone where it fits onto the front bulkhead needs to be cut down abit to fit, fronts hubs and castor blocks fit, most bearings are the same and thats about it i think.

Richard Lowe 11-02-2009 10:07 PM

Almost Mike, the rear shocks are the same, the B44 fronts have longer shafts - BJ4 shafts are from the B4. Rear wishbones need a little material taking away same as the fronts to clear the bottom of the gearbox case, unless you do as I do and remove a tiny bit from the gearbox then B4/44 arms go straight on.
I'm running B44 caster and steering blocks on my BJ4 now, they are a worthwhile upgrade :)

Mike Hudson 11-02-2009 10:22 PM

all you have to do with the B44 shafts though is add 3mm of internal preload spacing then there the same length travel as B4 shafts if theres no B4 shafts around :D then you have the option of more travel if the driveshafts arn't going to pop out?

Mike Hudson 11-02-2009 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe (Post 207963)
I'm running B44 caster and steering blocks on my BJ4 now, they are a worthwhile upgrade :)

You just got the rest of the B44 parts to buy now to complete it into a B44 and it'll be dialled ;):D:lol:

Richard Lowe 11-02-2009 10:33 PM

Quiet Pink-Diddy :p :D

Shifta 11-03-2009 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe (Post 207963)
Almost Mike, the rear shocks are the same, the B44 fronts have longer shafts - BJ4 shafts are from the B4. Rear wishbones need a little material taking away same as the fronts to clear the bottom of the gearbox case, unless you do as I do and remove a tiny bit from the gearbox then B4/44 arms go straight on.
I'm running B44 caster and steering blocks on my BJ4 now, they are a worthwhile upgrade :)

Hi Richard,

Do you have a list of parts required to put the B44 caster blocks etc on a BJ4 please?

N7ELA 13-03-2009 01:04 AM

Jeff Is it not just #9720 for the caster blocks and #9722 for the steering arms...???

Hope so cos thats wot ive just fitted....

Also toying with the 501x front wishbone mods... the pros are they are stong as out but are there any cons does anyone know...????

Richard Lowe 13-03-2009 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shifta (Post 217458)
Hi Richard,

Do you have a list of parts required to put the B44 caster blocks etc on a BJ4 please?

I'll look up the part numbers for you, it is just the caster block, steering block and the bushes that go in the steering block you need ;)

bald eagle 13-03-2009 01:48 PM

AS9785.... is this the cradle that will fit lipos in the bj4we?


http://67.199.85.166/main/searchboxresults.php

Andy Moore 13-03-2009 01:51 PM

Just use your Dremel and slot the JC battery trays, its worked great for us.

Richard Lowe 13-03-2009 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bald eagle (Post 217978)
AS9785.... is this the cradle that will fit lipos in the bj4we?

What packs are you running?

If they're soft cased you can modify the existing plastic tray's as Andy says to fit. If you're using Trakpower's I'd suggest the Diggity Designs saddle braces, thats what hold my Trakpower's in ;)

The AE tray for the B44 (if thats what you linked, the link doesn't work btw ;) ) should fit in theory, although I've not seen a BJ4 with one fitted.

Mash Potato 13-03-2009 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe (Post 218026)
What packs are you running?

If they're soft cased you can modify the existing plastic tray's as Andy says to fit. If you're using Trakpower's I'd suggest the Diggity Designs saddle braces, thats what hold my Trakpower's in ;)

Oh I like that Diggity designs brace. Can you get that in the UK, if so any idea where?

bald eagle 13-03-2009 03:44 PM

Well, I havent commited to buying my lipo packs just yet, still trying to decide which ones to buy... ... decisions decisions.!!! :confused:

I need stick and saddle, stick for the x-6 and saddle for the bj. Any recommendations (i know this isnt the thread fto be asking this question really)

chb 07-04-2009 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe (Post 207963)
I'm running B44 caster and steering blocks on my BJ4 now, they are a worthwhile upgrade :)

Why are they worthwhile ?

On the steering block for instance, I don't understand why replace an rigid/precise aluminium steering with a b44 plastic one ?

Mike Hudson 07-04-2009 09:37 PM

more flex = less stress on other parts, less likely to break other parts...

chb 07-04-2009 09:48 PM

So I guess you don't believe into all these blue alloy FT upgrades for some structural parts(like the optional FT B44 alloy caster block)

Mike Hudson 07-04-2009 09:53 PM

nope, if you start buying blue alloy bling parts the stress is just passed over to other parts that in most cases cost more to replace when they break! I've never broken a plastic hub/steering block on my car.

Richard Lowe 08-04-2009 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chb (Post 227291)
Why are they worthwhile ?

On the steering block for instance, I don't understand why replace an rigid/precise aluminium steering with a b44 plastic one ?

Less unsprung weight, less slop and as Mike said less stress on other components if you hit something ;)

masca555 17-05-2009 09:54 AM

anyone know if the front bumper of the B44 (as9718) is compatible with that of bj4we? Thank you

Mike Hudson 17-05-2009 12:40 PM

It doesn't fit

masca555 17-05-2009 03:16 PM

could work the B4's? I never saw the front bumper as a original spare by jconcept ...

andreasH 17-05-2009 08:45 PM

Manual says AE 9562, would be B4/T4 Front Bumper

Anibal Henriques 20-08-2009 09:34 PM

B44 hinge pin brace
 
Hi
Does anybody knows if the Hinge pin brace (associated 9717)from the B44 fits the BJ4we?:confused:

Anibal

b4pete 15-11-2009 07:29 PM

just picked up a worlds edition with some well stange shocks on, I have a full set of B4 FT shocks, will they work?

chris68nufc 15-11-2009 07:37 PM

Pete. You need AE 6417 Rear and AE 6418 Front. Not sure what the B4 are.

chris68nufc 15-11-2009 07:42 PM

The Rear of BJ4 is 1.03 and B4 is 1.02 and front is the same as the B4. Ive just looked it up so they should be fine.

GRIFF55 15-11-2009 07:45 PM

you might need just the b44 front spring platforms to raise the springs up on the front.
have you got a pic of these weird shocks?

b4pete 15-11-2009 07:58 PM

Ohh yes, be on soon, they look decent, but arent right for this car. Got to be worth a couple of quid to someone. Just hope someone can ID them

Chris, love the car mate, what were those numbers (1.02) etc about?

b4pete 15-11-2009 07:59 PM

Griff, what do the spring platforms look like?

chris68nufc 15-11-2009 09:05 PM

The numbers are the lengths of the shocks that you need to be the same as the BJ4. The fronts are the same as a B4 however the B4 Rear shock is smaller than the BJ4 by 0.1 of a mm. The lengths i have quoted are from the thread to the top of the shaft.
Offset spring cups
http://www.gshobby.com/index.php?mai...mage&pID=15598

If im wrong please somebody correct me. :lol:

GRIFF55 15-11-2009 09:21 PM

thats the boys!!

b4pete 15-11-2009 09:31 PM

I hate to sound like stampo, but, why would i need to raise the springs up?

chris68nufc 15-11-2009 09:40 PM

Its Stampy......:lol:

You get more scope to raise and lower ride heights as the springs that you will be using are short i think. Rich Lowe will be along shortly to confirm!!

sparrow.2 15-11-2009 09:48 PM

The Associated springs are fairly short and the bottom spring cup would hit the wishbone when running more droop at the front if you weren't using the raised spring cups.

b4pete 15-11-2009 09:53 PM

so just order some b44 cups from M K on monday? lol

its a shame about the shocks that are on it ...... lovely and smooth! lol

ben 15-11-2009 10:24 PM

got some you can have F.O.C pete..

b4pete 15-11-2009 10:25 PM

Cheers ben!

Richard Lowe 16-11-2009 12:23 AM

The shock bodies on the B4, B44 and BJ4 are all the same, the rear shafts are the same too. The B4 and BJ4 use the same front shock shafts, the B44's fronts are a touch longer.

The raised spring cups are indeed to give you a greater range of adjustment, you can get away with the standard ones but you will be right at the bottom of the threads ;)


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