"(In the UK) we`ve got this one-eyed Scottish idiot"
 

Jeremy Clarkson is a top notch bloke, as he has finally said something that is absolutely true.

"It`s the first time I`ve ever seen a world leader admit we really are in deep s***. He genuinely looked terrified. The poor man, he`s actually seen the books. (The Austrailian PM)

"(In the UK) we`ve got this one-eyed Scottish idiot, he keeps telling us everything's fine and he`s saved the world and we know he`s lying, but he`s smooth at telling us."

Its about time someone said the truth about this awful government. They are all lying in the Labour government.

Good stuff, that came up on the radio just as i read this title on the new posts list.
Legend

I wouldn't trust any of them.....

Brown can't turn round now and admit, yes, we are in the shit, and lose a lot of face. I think we would of been in recession one way or another, but the two past governments have shipped off, sold off, and allowed the complete erosion of our manufacturing industry, so we are wholly reliant on imports to sustain our 'financial spending', where as France subsidise their industry, so they make a lot of their own stuff, same as Germany, and they are being hit far less than we are.

One good thing about this though, makes watching Question Time a right hoot!! :woot:

ah mr Brown, British jobs for british workers, then slags the imingham workers off for complaining the ilatians are taking thier jobs

but he can't have British jobs for British workers, as he signed up to the open borders European Directive, and the agreement that the unions and Totale have agreed to, is to advertise the jobs locally, they haven't agreed that they have to employ local people though.

Just heard on the news Jeremy is in trouble for saying this. Do we have another Russel Brand Jonathon Ross style row brewing????

But haha, glad he said it!!!!! No politicians can be trusted!!!!:p

I think it was the 'one eyed' bit that the PC crew will jump on, as he has a disability, bless him.

Apparently just a hard knock could make him go blind, gotta feel sorry for anyone in that situation, even if they are an asshole.

This'll probably get me in trouble but I'm all for allowing foreign workers, as long as it's fair recruitment, as I'd like to work abroad in future!

Plus, despite being in manufacturing I don't think subsidies are good!! I do think we should have more manufacturing, but by making it more competitive, not subsidized!
Top marks to JC!

I never heard about this before???? Sad for him though..... No motocross, mountain biking, rugby for him then:p

yes and no, with such cheap labour, it is hard for UK firms to compete against Asian firms, so even if you are giving the companies a Tax loophole so they can have lower overheads, to cheap land or rates, so the companies can be competitive. I worked in military aerospace for years, and the government sold us down the swanny, it employed thousands to maintain the COUNTRY's fleet of aircraft, and at a good price too, but that wasn't enough, always looking to save money, but happy to put billions into the NHS to watch it squandered.

The problem with the uk nowadays is the industry we do have imports its raw materials, with a crap £ at the minute this gets expensive. we then make our products and then export them again the crap £ means we make less, maybe a loss. If a 1% interest rate does not stimulate spending then i dont know what will.

We are in deep crap and things will get worse long before it gets better. Right now though nobody has the answer.

problem is, the 1% interest rate or 1.5% currently, isn't being reflected in loans and mortgages, although my mortgage payments are the lowest they been in years. The issue isn't the spending, it is the fact that businesses rely on a constant give and take of credit/debit with the banks, the banks now taking their ball, and aren't playing, so these businesses have no money stashed to tide them over.

I don't think, no matter how much we 'spend' all that will do is prop up ailing businesses and increase personal debt. It is about time the government got tough on employment, and immigration.

To be fair to the banks, the reason they're not lending is because they are in a right mess over bad debt they own. Until they work out all the values it's difficult for them to lend (although it was their f**k up in the first place to not know what debt they were buying!)

What can the gov do on employment, more infrastructure projects to create jobs?

Immigration brings money and helps the economy - not the other way round. And no - workers coming in for a contract isn't immigration, but then we all have the equal chance to go work anywhere in Europe. If that's a bad thing then I can't see how.

100% agree, but had been to wimpy to lit it like that!!

I dont agree with immagrent workers if there none skilled. I think if there is a british person who can do that job they should be given the job over a immigrant worker who works for pennies. Un employment is growing and british people aregetting layed off and with the credit crunch companys want to getthe cheapest workers they can find.

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Forget about interest rates (up to a point), its all about loan (and mortgages) which need to be controlled really. The problem which happened (with Northern Rock) is that they lent vast amounts of money to people (4, 5 and 6 times two peoples/parents income) which could NEVER be properly repaid. This then also meant that house prices went through the roof, estate agents got really greedy, which furthered the problem.

The high house prices, put the market totally out of first time buyers, which eventually meant to the demise in the house market. This slump was then echoed in the interest rate drops by government to try and stimulate house buyers with low loan rates, but it was still too high for first time buyers. This then effects business, which leads to a recession and crap £.

Summary - every action has an equal and opposite reaction - for great wealth, there will be great poverty.

Go back to limited values on a single persons wage (3 times one persons income) and the market will stablise.

Doesn't the minimum wage apply to immigrants? (ignoring illegals which presumably everyone agree's should be stamped down on!?)

Also, remember we'd then have all the UK citizens working abroad coming back competing for jobs!!

we have all done it but maybe next time we are buying something in the shops instead of looking at the cheapest available we should look for the made in britain label it may cost us a bit more but we will be supporting british industry and british jobs

Its just my opinion.

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Ash, I know you've taken some stick this week, but it's cool I'm just disagreeing with you, not having a go at you personally yeah? Not saying you can't have an opinion!

the italians at immingham are a bit off, there stopping on a floating hotel supplied by thier company and not putting into the local economy


imigration does not work when they all come in and sponge on benifits and the nhs
now if they conme in and work and pay into the system thats fair enough, but when there is a full uk workforce who can do the job and they end up unemployed!!

Have you ever stayed in or near immingham?

Give me a floatel any day and im sure you would stay on it, rather than spending out on a B&B and food when the company has provided it for you.

It will also have cinemas, gyms, restaurants etc on it.

I am for skilled workers coming into the uk, just like i go abroad, they will come here for better money just like i would go to norway or saudi.

Its the spongers i dont agree with, to me they are just a different breed of chav :lol:

If we culled all the chavs then the economy is sure to recover :D

If each registered member on oople, culled a chav or 2 in their neighbourhood tonight, come monday the uk would be in a boom :lol:

Cull a Chav? Mmm.. I like that! This country has just undergone a substantial lurch towards poorer times. I guess it's just the way things work, countries rise and countries fall. It is mostly pretty depressing news, but I can think of a couple of good points;

Have you noticed there's a lot more emphasis on Science & Engineering being talked about? Seems the powers that be have realised you can't run a modern country without it, so the politicians have woken up at last. Shame they didn't consider this years ago, but better late than never.

An end to f*cking awful property porn tv with the likes of Kirsty Allsop etc. A return to houses being seen as homes, not get rich quick investment tools.

Interesting times. I predict some street riots this summer.

Meanwhile, Unite are demanding ALL BA staff get inflation plus 2% pay rise while the company is making a £150M loss this year, unbelievable!:confused::confused:

Although at this rate that will still be a pay freeze with deflation!:o

most other countries have strict rules when it comes to immigration, and working migrants, we don't, and the fact that we have so many illegals, then the immigrants who come on politicial/security grounds, who dissapear into the community before they can be assessed.

I was down Aberystwith over Christmas, and most of the staff in the catering business were Polish, now, at least they were working, but I wouldn't call that a 'skilled' job like nursing etc, so they are taking jobs from local youth/students etc.

We all know that foreign workers can bring skills to the workplace that we can't get in the UK, but they also manage to take a lot of menial jobs too.

As for the banks, I think the Government should of underpinned the mortgages and loans, and let a bank or two go through the hoop, that would of forced others to clean up their act. The credit system is shit in the UK, I don't have a credit card, I cancelled an account in 2002 with the Halifax, in 2008, they sent me a new card through the post, with a £1000 limit, and when I phoned them to inform them the account was closed 6 years ago, they just so, don't worry, just use it.....

That is not correct. Yes when buying the raw material it costs more, but if you're selling at a fixed foreign currency price, say dollars, then you get more pound for your dollars so it works out ok. It's not a lose lose situation.

This is true. Our business is really busy right now, and a lot of that is due to the weak pound making our product cheaper overseas which is great. Just a shame there aren't enough other export businesses such as ours to make much of a difference :mad:

Here's an interesting fact; Between 1997 and 2007 the UK banking sector contributed £85 Billion in tax to the UK. Sounds like a lot of money eh? until you consider that the official predicted increase in government borrowing that all of us will have to pay due to the banking induced recession is £250 Billion :thumbdown::mad:

Idiots.