New updated Tamiya TRF 511!
 

Updated TRF!
http://rcspecial.com/news/?p=14573

Other than rear top deck and maybe rear wishbones/camber links, I can't see much difference, can anyone else?

Would have hoped for a bit more after all this time!

Good spot though F1!

I tell a lie, new front top deck too, defintely new rear camber links, new motor mount too!

new rear wing ?

Would love to see more news on this to get the full low down!

I was more expecting an update to take stick packs natively for lipo! The spur looks like it might be mounted a bit higher though to perhaps allow lipo's down the side natively without it being a tight squeeze under the slipper clutch adjustment spring.

Now below!

How come it's on these sites but not on Tamiya?

Having taken a closer look at it whilst having my 501 in front of me, the changes are actually pretty major, and all look like they are following the touring direction they've gone in, eg more symmetrical, and more flex. Changes I've spotted:

1. Centre Bulkhead only goes as far back as the spur, the whole section and cross brace behind that seems to have gone.
2. Rear upper deck no longer goes under the rear top bulkhead, again more flex!
3. motor mount/centre bulkhead changed, and looks more symettrical (much more metal on the side opposite the motor)
4. Front upper bulkheads redesigned, hard to tell how, looks like maybe more flex again
5. rear top deck has less "centre piece", more flex again
6. Looks like rear hinge pins are mounted differently?
7. Front hub carriers look different, maybe like they are protecting the joint on the driveshafts
8. The chassis itself is different, Slightly different shape around the back, looks like batteries maybe moved forward.
9. New bodyshell/wing (basing that on the part number on a canadian site!)
10 New belts (presumably lower friction)

If the bulkheads are as they look by the way, diff access will probably be MUCH easier than on the 501!

All in all, actually a lot more change than it looks at first glance (probably becasue the general shape is similar and looks like the shock towers are too), probably enough to be worth having a new name.

If it ends up available for less than the stated price (72800 Yen!!), am getting very tempted to make this my 2009 ride!

Its part 42139, due 20th March.

Wow..

If the price is right, I might just be hopping into a CF car a lot earlier than I'd intended.

There's one pic on tamiya USA, which shows a front wing on it. Front hubs defintely look like they shroud the axle somehow!?

Price looks high, but only similar to other high end Tam's!

Are the front hubs from the Durga perhaps? Looks like a very nice car - I'm a big fan of the 501X but I'm not sure this is worth the upgrade on its own. Shame they didn't make some nice diff covers like those from Optimized

Might just be better to update our 501x to a 511 and just buy the new parts. But if they changed alot then it might not be possible.

A very nice buggy indeed, but not one that i will be buying. I'm more of a mid level type guy myself. :lol:

I know what you mean Jimmy/Bmag, it's an awkward position really, looks like a lot of upgrades, but same or very similar chassis/drivetrain so not really a "new" car. Might be difficult for them to Market!

It seems a lot of tweaks more an evolution of the existing model but probably too many to be viable to upgrade to.

I'm quite surprised they kept the saddle layout, I was expecting if there was a new car to be more along the lines of a durga/TC layout so it can take lipo's natively.

I think that will be very expensive.

If i'm correct only the steering parts and the shock parts are the same. All the other parts are changed.

Are they even running Lipo in Japan though? Are they allowed at this years worlds?

My current 501x comes in at 1640g with Lipo, I'm hoping with less bulkhead material the new car may be lighter and allow for more ballasting!

I've no idea about the situation in Japan with lipo. Yeah my 501 is a heavy beast as well, even with the 3600 30C lipo i'm overweight :(

http://www.redrc.net/2009/02/toy-fair-2009-tamiya-2/

Highest res stuff i've seen so far.

Nice!

Hmm, rear camber links much further forward on the inboard, what does this do for setup?

Diff access deffo way easier, not sure the main chassis has changed anymore though!

Looks like the motor mount plate slides looking a the top cap screw above the motor? Maybe to alter the f/r setting or the mesh the motor.
also new seperate rear suspension mounts on the front of the rear bulk head

Its a shame its not more lipo friendly but it does look more Brushless friendly. I suppose it shows that the 501 was a well designed car to start with. I dont think i'll be upgrading my 501WE, I'll probably just skip this new generation and hope the 3rd gen will be lipo specific like the CAT.

I wonder if the belts and pulleys will fit the 501

Pulleys hopefully, think they still use 36t/37t in touring, and the look the same in the pics!

Belts guess it depends on if everything is repositioned!?

Yeh it agree with some about Lipo compatibility. I would have happily bought the car if it took a stick pack. For now, I will stick with the 501.

More pics here - http://www.redrc.net/2009/02/toy-fair-2009-tamiya-2/

There are already 5 liPO Saddle pack that follow EFRA or BRCA dimensionnal spec :

Corrally 4200mAh 30C 2S ref 48243 weight 278g

GM-Vmax 4200mAh 30C 2S ref 98994 weight 235g
GM-Vmax 4200mAh 35C 2S2P ref 98988 weight 285g

Speed Power 4200 30C ref SLR423HS weight 232g

Trinity IP4200 30C ref TRI20807 or TP2S4200V1 weight 233g


There are all legal in France and follow EFRA rules : max dimension, max capacity, undimountable hardcase

More Lipo Saddle will come after the nuremberg toy fair like LRP or Reedy

But Lipo Saddle pack exist and are viable (at my first 2009 race, a lot of people already user saddle Lipo)

Yep, just waiting for the uk list then we'll be out getting some!

For the other guys though, is it that you think stick pack weight distribution will be better?

Anyone noticed the new suspension arms?

I gotta say I like the looks of this car :drool:

From the TRF site:

-New suspension arms (high traction) #54141 & #54142
-New Belts #54140
-New battery position
-New Bulkheads for easy maintenance

-New Body and Under Cowl #54133
-New Low Mounted Wing #54134

Hadn't noticed new suspension arms, what's changed?

Does look good, hope the shell has changed as well, this is definitely my car for this year, unfortunately with a likely pay cut looming it may mean losing either the Cat or Bmax at some point :cry:

New Belt (TRF501X, DB01, TRF511)
http://www.tamiyausa.com/images/prod...ader_54140.jpg

New Suspensions Arm Front (TRF501X, DB01, TRF511)
http://www.tamiyausa.com/images/prod...ader_54141.jpg

New Suspensions Arm Rear (TRF501X, DB01, TRF511)
http://www.tamiyausa.com/images/prod...ader_54142.jpg

Cool, "high traction" arms, wonder if they have more flex, wasn't hupo running filed down arms at the euro's to make them flex?

Belt answers Bmags Q from earlier, presumably means the drivetrain is all the same!!

Yeah I always meant to try try filing down the arms to see if it made a different but never got around to doing it.

Can you post a link, or did you translate it, I can only find Japanese!!

I assume the new shell and undercowl come with the kit, its shown as a hopup for it on Tamusa!

Maybe they will go the touring route and not supply shells?

Yes, battery, motor, tire, wheel, body and wing sold separately

Really? Cheers for saying, would have been a nasty surprise when opening the box!! Where's the info, trf japan (in Japanese) or trf America?