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fil9144 20-04-2017 03:57 PM

Gone
 
gone

barrypops 20-04-2017 05:22 PM

Please send me more photos
 
[email protected]

fil9144 20-04-2017 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by barrypops (Post 971528)

photos sent

oldenoughtoknowbetter 22-04-2017 05:35 PM

predator
 
x11???

fil9144 23-04-2017 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by oldenoughtoknowbetter (Post 971647)
x11???


Sorry is that a question?

Candyman 26-04-2017 12:15 PM

XT surely?

fil9144 29-04-2017 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by fil9144 (Post 971522)
Great condition carbon tub car

Looking for £400.00 posted

Now reduced £350.00

leeboy44 29-04-2017 04:37 PM

It's not a x11 mate

fil9144 29-04-2017 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by leeboy44 (Post 971939)
It's not a x11 mate

That's how I bought it pal and that's how I am selling it

leeboy44 29-04-2017 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by fil9144 (Post 971941)
That's how I bought it pal and that's how I am selling it

Ok lol

Good luck but if I was you I would go d the guy who sold it to you as it's not what he said it was

mark christopher 29-04-2017 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by leeboy44 (Post 971947)
Ok lol

Good luck but if I was you I would go d the guy who sold it to you as it's not what he said it was

Lee want to buy some beans? Guy who sold me them told me they were magic beans :thumbsup::lol::lol:

Dyna 29-04-2017 09:39 PM

A real 'bitsa' Predator that.

Based round a '95 Pro carbon tub with fixed spur but with numerous other later Pred parts including from the X10 and X11, and some hand-made parts like the rockers.

Problem is, even if you brought it as a X11 and now you know it isn't, if you sell it as a X11 you could be seen as being a tad dishonest and just passing on the 'wrong identity' problem to someone else....

Simple Googling will show you what a real X11 looks like. Or most other Pred versions for that matter.

It still looks like a clean car, just be honest and sell it for what it is. A early carbon-tubbed bitsa.

CHEVY 29-04-2017 10:39 PM

Surely if it's not a x11 you can't sell as x11
It's like saying i have a fiesta wrc and selling fiesta 1.1:D

fil9144 29-04-2017 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CHEVY (Post 971970)
Surely if it's not a x11 you can't sell as x11
It's like saying i have a fiesta wrc and selling fiesta 1.1:D

Not really same thing now is it if you want to buy it let me know if not pipe down

leeboy44 30-04-2017 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by fil9144 (Post 971971)
Not really same thing now is it if you want to buy it let me know if not pipe down


Again sorry but that's just how it is mate

Adjust the add and do more search then relist it as what the car is

I wish you all the best

Peakey 30-04-2017 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by fil9144 (Post 971971)
Not really same thing now is it if you want to buy it let me know if not pipe down

Carry on like that and you'll find yourself banned

daz75 30-04-2017 10:07 AM

Is this why you've taken down your eBay auctions?

fil9144 30-04-2017 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Peakey (Post 971979)
Carry on like that and you'll find yourself banned

Sorry carry on like what ?

So called know it all people ? That are experts ?

I bought the car from a collector who opion I respect and Daz you were watching the same car were you not ?

fil9144 30-04-2017 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by daz75 (Post 971985)
Is this why you've taken down your eBay auctions?

No took them down as I am changing my Paypal to a busisnes account

Retro RC 30-04-2017 10:33 AM

TBH I'd be going back to eBay where he bought it from and going the original seller for false advertising. Unfortunately not all of us are experts on every vintage Rc out there and this time he has been sucked in.

I almost bought this buggy on eBay on the original auction when he did but didn't know enough about them to pay as much for it as he did, so I can see why he's getting pissed at being called on advertising it for what he bought it as.

How bout we give him the benefit of the doubt and or predator experts show him/ give the info he needs to advertise it properly instead of giving him grief.

Just my 2 cents

fil9144 30-04-2017 10:47 AM

Look at this way
 
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188080

When I posted this did anyone point out it wasn't a X11?

Rest my case

Dyna 30-04-2017 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by fil9144 (Post 971990)
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188080

When I posted this did anyone point out it wasn't a X11?

Rest my case

No case to rest tbh as you don't really have one.

In that thread you didn't claim it to be a X11 nor were selling it as one, which is why no-one said anything to the contrary. As you said yourself, you were very happy with it. If you had of asked what it was before or after, I'm sure someone would have told you.

I do apologise however if my post caused you to state I'm one of the ' know it alls ' on Preds on o0ple who's opinion doesn't really matter to you, Thats fine. But then again, if I'm being compared to a collector that who's opinion you respect but who wrongly sold it to you as a X11 as you said earlier, then I'm not that bothered as he/she really doesn't know anything about them.

Interesting thing is, in that thread you linked to you seemed to have brought it with the original shocks on it, not the XRS/X10 shocks you were selling it with. Why did you change them btw ?

If you want help, as Retro RC kindly suggested, here is my advice. With Preds, originality is everything. Put the original blue early shocks & springs back on it, if you still have them. Take the hand-made carbon rockers off and just use the originals that are probably still underneath. Take off the later wings, replace with period ones and add a period body shell - speak to Steve Haskins about them. Find a correct motor plate, which seems to be missing.

Then add some correct wheels, go through the suspension parts and replace anything later with period, and hey presto, it's a extremely tidy Pred that is worth every penny of what you are asking, as good, original carbon fibre tubbed cars are worth more than more common later versions, as you yourself said in the original thread. And you will still make some money selling the later parts separately on EBay.

mark christopher 30-04-2017 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fil9144 (Post 971990)
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthread.php?t=188080

When I posted this did anyone point out it wasn't a X11?

Rest my case

As you did not claim it to be an x11 why would it be questioned?

Its only since your selling it for something its not, is when other who do know better are pointing it out.

This hobby does not need miss selling items, and if you were told it was then later find its not, does not mean you should pass the leg lifting down the line.
Sorry but thats not on.

fil9144 30-04-2017 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 972017)
As you did not claim it to be an x11 why would it be questioned?

Its only since your selling it for something its not, is when other who do know better are pointing it out.

This hobby does not need miss selling items, and if you were told it was then later find its not, does not mean you should pass the leg lifting down the line.
Sorry but thats not on.

Not really mis sold item if it's a X11 chassis with a few different parts!

Bit like saying back in the day when these were on the tracks people didn't try different parts for different setups

It is a hobby and no one any were would have been mislead as you can see what it is on the photos but my main point it's based from a X11 carbon tub which i would say is he main point and I don't honk it's over priced for what it is no matter what you want to call it.

Like I said and don't take this he wrong way but while you sat there at your keyboard just don't buy it if it's not for you it's that simple

fil9144 30-04-2017 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyna (Post 972003)
No case to rest tbh as you don't really have one.

In that thread you didn't claim it to be a X11 nor were selling it as one, which is why no-one said anything to the contrary. As you said yourself, you were very happy with it. If you had of asked what it was before or after, I'm sure someone would have told you.

I do apologise however if my post caused you to state I'm one of the ' know it alls ' on Preds on o0ple who's opinion doesn't really matter to you, Thats fine. But then again, if I'm being compared to a collector that who's opinion you respect but who wrongly sold it to you as a X11 as you said earlier, then I'm not that bothered as he/she really doesn't know anything about them.

Interesting thing is, in that thread you linked to you seemed to have brought it with the original shocks on it, not the XRS/X10 shocks you were selling it with. Why did you change them btw ?

If you want help, as Retro RC kindly suggested, here is my advice. With Preds, originality is everything. Put the original blue early shocks & springs back on it, if you still have them. Take the hand-made carbon rockers off and just use the originals that are probably still underneath. Take off the later wings, replace with period ones and add a period body shell - speak to Steve Haskins about them. Find a correct motor plate, which seems to be missing.

Then add some correct wheels, go through the suspension parts and replace anything later with period, and hey presto, it's a extremely tidy Pred that is worth every penny of what you are asking, as good, original carbon fibre tubbed cars are worth more than more common later versions, as you yourself said in the original thread. And you will still make some money selling the later parts separately on EBay.

Thank you for your advice

But i am happy if someone wishes to buy it and if not I keep it it's a lovely car but truth is it's wasted sat on my shelf as I am never going to touch it now doing 1/5th

Peakey 30-04-2017 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fil9144 (Post 972023)
Not really mis sold item if it's a X11 chassis with a few different parts!

Bit like saying back in the day when these were on the tracks people didn't try different parts for different setups

It is a hobby and no one any were would have been mislead as you can see what it is on the photos but my main point it's based from a X11 carbon tub which i would say is he main point and I don't honk it's over priced for what it is no matter what you want to call it.

Like I said and don't take this he wrong way but while you sat there at your keyboard just don't buy it if it's not for you it's that simple

People are trying to help you it's not an X11 chassis because thy didn't make a X11 carbon tub listen to Dyna he knows what he's talking about when it comes to Preds

Dyna 30-04-2017 09:20 PM

[QUOTE=fil9144;972023]Not really mis sold item if it's a X11 chassis with a few different parts!

It is a hobby and no one any were would have been mislead as you can see what it is on the photos but my main point it's based from a X11 carbon tub which i would say is he main point [/QUOTE


Ok, fair enough, what you do with it is up to you and I'm glad your not offended, but It's NOT an X11 chassis - THAT is the point I think we are all trying to get over. It's a early carbon-fibre tub chassis.

You may be confused thinking a 'X11' is a catch-all phrase for a Pred, but it isn't. 'Predator' would be a better catch-all phrase, as the model version normally came after the word Predator. For example 'Predator International ', 'Predator XK98' and 'Predator X11'.

If you say " it's a very tidy Predator buggy based on a early carbon-fibre tub " you would be spot on :)

Only Predator buggy models with the carbon fibre tubs were the original Predator, the exactly the same XT, the 95 Pro and the 95 one. After 1995, they were all injection moulded.

The X11 also had a different design carbon-composite tub to all others previously. If it was sold to you as a X11, you really were seriously misled :cry:

I'd still be interested why you took off the good condition, period-correct shocks you brought it with and put cheaper, common XRS/X10 ones on ?

fil9144 30-04-2017 09:31 PM

[QUOTE=Dyna;972032]
Quote:

Originally Posted by fil9144 (Post 972023)
Not really mis sold item if it's a X11 chassis with a few different parts!

It is a hobby and no one any were would have been mislead as you can see what it is on the photos but my main point it's based from a X11 carbon tub which i would say is he main point [/QUOTE


Ok, fair enough, what you do with it is up to you and I'm glad your not offended, but It's NOT an X11 chassis - THAT is the point I think we are all trying to get over. It's a early carbon-fibre tub chassis.

You may be confused thinking a 'X11' is a catch-all phrase for a Pred, but it isn't. 'Predator' would be a better catch-all phrase, as the model version normally came after the word Predator. For example 'Predator International ', 'Predator XK98' and 'Predator X11'.

If you say " it's a very tidy Predator buggy based on a early carbon-fibre tub " you would be spot on :)

Only Predator buggy models with the carbon fibre tubs were the original Predator, the exactly the same XT, the 95 Pro and the 95 one. After 1995, they were all injection moulded.

The X11 also had a different design carbon-composite tub to all others previously. If it was sold to you as a X11, you really were seriously misled :cry:

I'd still be interested why you took off the good condition, period-correct shocks you brought it with and put cheaper, common XRS/X10 ones on ?

like said just how i bought it not my area to be honest i was going to show it northy as i know hes the man with them but to be honest i was happy with it with it being so clean as the last few i have owed were not this clean.

shockers leaked to be honest just wanted a working set which i took some off another car i had a lot better condition.

i was going to run it but just not going get chance but to be honest might just garage it with my other cars not really that fussed

mark christopher 30-04-2017 10:11 PM

So its not sold as you have made the advert apear?


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