EBOR team
 

Big well done to the EBOR24 team members, and big thanks to Lewis, Nathan & Graham for making the long trip up from the South.

Special thanks to Lewis, without the direct support of a 'Factory Car' it would not have been possible.


There will be an oOple report on the event coming up, be warned as it may not be pretty!

Well done lads, Car looked rather good for the amount of time i spent there :)

Yeah, big thanks to the Extreme Team. The car was well sorted and great fun to drive, even at 3.00am. :thumbsup:

was an awsome display for us and id like to thank lewis for the car, tekin for the motor and speedo and track power for the lipos, all performed faultlessly dispite our best efforts to kill them all. as a team the result wasnt important (although a win would of been nice) it was more to prove to the doubters that the pred is now reliable in all hands. we had a great team there with a variaty of experience and talent from F1 to F4 who all abused the car in there own way for the full time, and what did we break or change ?????

1 rear upper rear wishbone (well done sammy the seal)
1 ball joint (with assistence from jimmy the super marshall)
3 pairs of rear bud caps (changed as a preventative measure)
12 sets of tyres
4 packs of track powers (only changed when flat:woot:)

after inspection, to get the car back to a normal raceable condition

2 diff rebuild kits
pack of bud caps
change the shock oil (well it did do the full 24 hours :))
screw check

wonder what every one else went through (mechanical and electrical) ;)

long gone are the days of a pred struggling to last a 5 min run :)

Yeah thanks to Xtreme for putting up with the likes of us - I've put a little thanks on the report of course and nicked stu's photo, thanks stu!!!!! :)

Like you have pointed out Nath about people's doubts on the stregnth and relyabilty of the Predator, This has now shown that the car IS strong and DOESNT break easy and can last a full 24 hours of hammering !

Am i right in beleiving that it didnt have any modifacations on it? - Just basically as it comes in the kit?

Yeah as everyone else has said, massive thanks to Lewis for the car and electrics and his support over the 24hours. Really enjoyed the meeting.

Yeah Garry, it was a standard x11-08. The only modification being so it could take a lipo stick pack.

as matty said it was a kit predator x11-08 built for the event by lewis himself. the minor mods were to bring it in line with the current team car ie; stick pack instead of saddle moved front pushrod on the wishbone, steering swapped to the opposite side to allow for the stick conversion and extra rear droop which went back to kit for the event. obviously all screws into alloy were locktighted but then i do that to my car anyway ;)

i did a screw check at 14 hours and the 2 top front ball joint screws were 1/2 a turn loose, other than that everything was good. the 2 breakages that we did sustain were less than most teams and were both a result of night shift driver error in the early hours of the morning (nowt we can do about that lol)

What effect does the pushrod movement have? do you have to alter the rockers as well or run harder springs?

Wow.. didn't realise the xTreme team was so big.

Did everyone on there get a run?

Basically it will give you more turn in.

Its makes the front suspension feel more sprung (which might be opposite to what you'd think). I think this is because the pushrod maintains a more effective angle to the rocker (stays more perpendicular) through its travel. The idea of this was to get the car to work better on the really low grip tracks, but it seem to work well on any surface we've tried it on so far.

Does it have any excess force on the rocker pivots Kev?

When i first ran my X11 i had the push rods long to gain more front end droop which caused the pivots to break under pressure after a big jump, But it was with the old none big bore shocks..

Yeah, we all got 2 runs each, doing hour long stints.

It was great to be back driving again, I've been away too long, and the track yesterday was ace. The 3am graveyard shift was lots of fun rallying the Pred round the track.

No, its fine, you need to use a shorter rod and as long as its setup so that the chassis can bottom out it makes no different where it is. I've been using it for weeks without a problem.

will admit my first run was better than my grave yard shift and the pred took all we could give it really well , well done guys , thanks lewis and nathan once again top weekend , just resting my vioce now as i can t speak but really enjoyed it , just goes to show how good the pred really is , plus after chatting with other team i think we had the lowest amount of repairs for the full 24 hours and it was a kit car unlike the brick that was being run by northy and the gang , more reinforcing than a hurricane shelter ,,,, were you guys worried you would break the little cats back , and we just ran kit with some thread lcked screw mmmmmmmm i think team Xtreme have just proven that the pred is back wwwith strength in ever way

Go team Xtreme :thumbsup:

Something Richard Weatherly was never able to manage
well done lewis!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:thumbsup:

I would also like to add my thanks to lewis for the drive etc, i really enjoyed myself. The new pred is FUN!!!
the weekend was a great success i feel for extreme anyone who doubts the reliability of the car is just ill informed.I will also confirm that the car was standard exept for the few team mods for lipo and handling(ongoing development of the chassis)YES anybody could buy a car like this and the guys at extreme would happily share the mods. no secret team only parts or one off strenghthening bits on the car.

On a personal note for me is was wicked to see some old friends again and to make some top new ones!!:lol:

Extreme i wish you all the best for the future with this massive accomplishment under your belt!:D

also a massive thanks to all at the york club for putting the event on. any idea as to how much was raised at the event ????

congrts team xtreme.. bummer for the electrical issues but all in all great job... im sure that event was really fun..

just like to say a massive thanks to lewis and nathan for a great weekend the car was brillant as always:D, hopfully the rep of the old is dead now,
long live the x11:thumbsup:

:eh?:

The electrics were like car - 100% reliable.

We shorted-out the speedo a couple of times in the pits when rushing a pack change, bit it did not affect it.

oh.. well it sounded different when i read the report.. sorry for the wrong info.. either way congrats.

Well done team xtreme glad you all enjoyed it.. pred looked fine for 24 hours :eh?:

3 pairs of bud caps? I thought they looked like full driveshafts :p
12 sets of tyres.... pfffff!! We only used 6 sets :drool:

Had a new set of shafts ready to go on, (quicker than changing just the buds), then changed the ones off the car for the next change.

Well done Team xtreme
Wishbone and a ball joint failure in 24 hours on a boggo standard car thats very very good just shows how strong the x11 realy is
well done again

Many thanks to Lewis for all the support for the event, well done to everyone on our team, the car looked good in everyones hands. Really enjoyed the meeting but am really tired now!!! The car was great to drive and was consistent throughout the 24hrs. Also well done to Stu for organising the team and Nathan for keeping us all going.

Greg

do you mean by that that you have to shorten the rod or that another turnbuckle is neede to get short enough?
And do you know the length of this steeper-mounted pushrod?
Just that we, overhere in Belgium, can figure out how to try this mod, since having no examples running around here (yet).


[edit] .... ooh wait a minute. Nathan is comming over next weekend. We might see it in his car then.
But then again, it would be nice to be able to prepare this before the EIR-race, just so we could try it out as well.

Good to see the pred holding up to the abuse of 24 hours of near consistent use. The preds of old would have needed their gearbox's rebuilding quite a few times over in that time.


Lowie, the mod looks like this I think mate

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/petit...s/OOP_6280.jpg

It looks like the screw is secured by taping the wishbone rather than a nut on the other side. Bit of a guess but I should imagine the rod is the 30mm ones used for the rear toe links.

i have been running this mod on my pred since i bought it just over a month ago, nathan said to me to start off with the turnbuckles about 23mm long (23mm turnbuckle showing between the ball cups)

You do have the tightest team manager in the world though.

I think we went through 27 sets of rears give or take a couple. and maybe 10 pair of fronts.

Well done to Xtreme, i was impressed, as everyone was how well the pred stood up to the task.:D

lee if we were tight on tyres mate shumacker only doing six sets must have been sown up tighter than a *&%^*&*&%)*, (too explicit to state):p the pred did the buisness all the way

No No No, i meant schuey being tighter than a ducks arse, not Xtreme.

Sorry for the confusion :blush:

lmao thats what i was saying too mate bet it had something to do with shimage

but make sure that bottom ball on the swing arm is located correctly :D

o as well the ball joint at the rocker end is screw on top of the rocker and not below it as standard

You need to use a shorter turnbuckle. I'm using a cut down losi one but the Pred rear toe-in one would be fine. I can't remember the length its set to off the top of my head but can let you know. Failing that just set it to have the normal range of travel you'd expect (enough uptravel for the chassis to deck out + a little more).

and also........ make sure the ball joint is popped on! :D

as kev says the rear link (tow in) turn buckle is fine for the job. i also use the cone washers from the front hub top link to allow more clearance for the ball joint. if you dont have the parts lowie then pm me m8 and i will bring the parts with me on friday with the rest of your/barts stuff

I found the EBOR car to be very 'sharp' in the steering department. It was very positive on turn in, if I concentated on the job then it was faster - no doubt.

It was good, but I'll not be busting a gut to make the 'team mods' myself as I find the kit standard X11 to be very suited to my lazy driving style, ie it virtually drives itself around the track - ;)

I would just like to say a massive WELL DONE to all our TEAM XTREME TEAM. They all done really well and performed as a Team. Having a Team of all levels proved to be fair and a great Team Building event. Also proved the car can be driven by anyone with minimum effort.

A BIG thanks to Stu for getting the Team together and involving everyone. :thumbsup:

And a Thanks to our Team who acted like a Team and did us proud!!:thumbsup:

HIP HIP HOORAY
HIP HIP ....Okay I'll stop now:D

Yanina x

Well done guys, glad the you and the car did well, wish i could of been there :cry:

Whats happening to the car that was used at the event? shelf queen?

No way man, it will be back on track very soon, in the hands of an F2 ability driver, well known to many folk, who has run 'Pred' brefore at national level.

;)