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baD 29-01-2009 10:52 PM

NE Regional Venues for 2009
 
As a spill over from another thread, it appears that YORCC are running an event for the NE & one for the ME at somewhere called Blyth.
Now if YORCC call their new track New York, there will be even more confusion about how long it will take to get there, than there is already, between the various places called Blyth in the (so called) North East.

If there is another thread re Venues for NE Off-Road Regionals, can someone point me to it? If so, please delete this. If not, would anyone else like to share their views here?

As a comparison,
ME round trip of their venues in 2009 is 175 miles
MW mileage around theirs is 251 miles
NE - as was, (ex Bury) was 216 miles - add Bury and it becomes 290 miles - then add Blyth (the right one) instead of York, you get 321 miles

As a starter comment - stretching the region so far, will simply limit the numbers going to the extemity venues, and whereas Blyth may well benefit from non-regional entries, the Northern Clubs will not.
I hope for the continuance of Off-Road clubs in the Far North, that Bury is part of NE 2009 and Blyth is part of ME 2009.

ba - a Northern driver on occasions

Col 29-01-2009 10:57 PM

I may well be entirely wrong, but I believe that there is no NE regional at Blyth, only a national

ben 29-01-2009 10:57 PM

haha, so basically we need to take the blyth track out of the NE regional series for next year :confused:

Really?:confused:

Must just be me who doesnt want 4 rounds of grass racing then the for NE 2009 series...

ben 29-01-2009 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Col (Post 202528)
I may well be entirely wrong, but I believe that there is no NE regional at Blyth, only a national

:confused: where ya find that out from COL?

Col 29-01-2009 11:00 PM

because Blythe isn't in the North East?

Or the North?

Or the East?

For my 2 cents worth if our region can't be bothered to support the tracks and clubs it's already got (batley...), who can be bothered to drive all the way to Blythe?

telboy 29-01-2009 11:04 PM

I though we were having a NE at Blyth little Ben?

Come on G let us know.

Regarding the distances Dont forget that the ME meetings are only sundays, so its double the distances as you will race at each venue twice.
I worked this out last year and the ME actually worked out at more travelling than the NE.

Northy 29-01-2009 11:09 PM

No venues or dates are confirmed yet, we (the NE consortium) are working on them, so there is nothing to tell.

G

RcRob 29-01-2009 11:29 PM

I may be wrong, and playing Devil's Advocote, but was the Blyth venue not a NE Venue before both Bury and Jarrow?

Therefore if the region had not moved so far north/west, the previous club at Blyth would not have folded?

Stu 29-01-2009 11:38 PM

This thread subject appears every year, normally ending in a bit of a slanging match about what is where and who drives the most distance.

It's never ultimately helpful to the region(s) or the sport in general.

Stupid internet forums are not the place for it.

There is no such thing as a defined regional boundary, the consortium can consider applications from any club, regardless of its geographical position.

Chequered Flag Racing 29-01-2009 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RcRob (Post 202549)
but was the Blyth venue not a NE Venue before both Bury and Jarrow?

Yes

raced there twice I can recall when Worksop club 1st used it.

turbo_brick 30-01-2009 12:32 AM

at the end of the day clubs from anywhere in the country can be in any region it is up to you if you want to go. Personally i don't think i would travel down to blyth.

RSharpy 30-01-2009 12:33 AM

I say just be thankful to race on a decent track lads, regardless of driving time. We in the ME were last year when we used one of the EOE tracks to race on :)

baD 30-01-2009 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RcRob (Post 202549)
I may be wrong, and playing Devil's Advocote, but was the Blyth venue not a NE Venue before both Bury and Jarrow?

Therefore if the region had not moved so far north/west, the previous club at Blyth would not have folded?

If the Blyth track is where Worksop raced then yes for some years they raced in the NE Region - and even back then a good proportion of drivers wished they would go back to the ME.
I wasn't aware they folded ! Can anyone shed light on that?

baD 30-01-2009 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stu (Post 202553)
Stupid internet forums are not the place for it.

If this is a stupid forum I am suprised you admit to reading it, let alone writing in it ! ;)

Unfortunately there are are few places for the masses to air our views so that the NE Consortium can take on board.
I personally feel that the NE can run a good series at 5 regional venues without including Blyth.

Irri Tant 30-01-2009 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by telboy (Post 202535)
I though we were having a NE at Blyth little Ben?

Come on G let us know.

maybe as dates for Worksop meetings are on their website although it doesn't say 2009 the NE region didn't race there in 2008;)

Chequered Flag Racing 30-01-2009 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baD (Post 202570)
If the Blyth track is where Worksop raced then yes for some years they raced in the NE Region

here's the old / NEW venue

you can just make out the old banked corner and a few other features

Lee 30-01-2009 03:14 AM

Can we throw in eden park too, i could do with a bit of practice for the national.:thumbsup:


I can see peoples point about travel and distance, but im sure it will be an event that is a weekender, nobody would be thick enough to put the furthest tracks on for 1 day regionals.......would they :confused:

N7ELA 30-01-2009 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 202577)
Can we throw in eden park too, i could do with a bit of practice for the national.:thumbsup:


I can see peoples point about travel and distance, but im sure it will be an event that is a weekender, nobody would be thick enough to put the furthest tracks on for 1 day regionals.......would they :confused:

Lee does the distance change if its 1 or 2 days racing....??? wots your point....???

Chequered Flag Racing 30-01-2009 03:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 202577)


but im sure it will be an event that is a weekender, nobody would be thick enough to put the furthest tracks on for 1 day regionals.......would they :confused:

if the dates on RHRW are correct in the link above for 2009 it's a double @ RHRW

BRCA North East Regional - 2wd: 11th / 4wd: 12th July


Looks like someone's got my shift calender again ;)

AndyM 30-01-2009 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N7ELA (Post 202578)
Lee does the distance change if its 1 or 2 days racing....???

Because if its a single day event, you may have to travel up on a different weekend for the second class that was not catered for the first time round.

So, you would have to travel 4 times there/back (twice there, twice back).

Whereas, if it's a weekender, then you only need to travel the distance twice (once there, once back).

Does that make sense? ;)

HTH.

ben 30-01-2009 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing (Post 202581)
if the dates on RHRW are correct in the link above for 2009 it's a double @ RHRW

BRCA North East Regional - 2wd: 11th / 4wd: 12th July


Looks like someone's got my shift calender again ;)

:thumbsup: I hope the date stays like this... a regional on my birthday :drool:

mark christopher 30-01-2009 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbo_brick (Post 202567)
at the end of the day clubs from anywhere in the country can be in any region it is up to you if you want to go. Personally i don't think i would travel down to blyth.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Col (Post 202532)
because Blythe isn't in the North East?

Or the North?

Or the East?

For my 2 cents worth if our region can't be bothered to support the tracks and clubs it's already got (batley...), who can be bothered to drive all the way to Blythe?

so why should i drive from doncaster to teeside all the time? blythe is on my door step so thumbs up for me!!

telboy 30-01-2009 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing (Post 202574)
here's the old / NEW venue

you can just make out the old banked corner and a few other features


Tell you what.
I've helped on the odd occasion with the track revamp, and when its done, you will all want to race on it.
Theres a hell of a lot of hard work going into it, and it will be one of the best tracks in the country once it is finished.
The concrete banking is still there, bit it has loads of new features that you wont be dissapointed with.:thumbsup:

Lee 30-01-2009 12:11 PM

Agreed Tel,

I have seen a few pics and it will be very good :drool:

Chequered Flag Racing 30-01-2009 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyM (Post 202582)

Whereas, if it's a weekender, then you only need to travel the distance twice (once there, once back).

Not in my case:p

I like my own bed and it's only 90 mins away

Fuel v B&B is not that much different so I prefer to travel

telboy 30-01-2009 07:31 PM

Even better for me, I'm only about 16 miles away (as the crow flies).:p

baD 31-01-2009 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 202538)
No venues or dates are confirmed yet, we (the NE consortium) are working on them, so there is nothing to tell.

G

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing (Post 202581)
if the dates on RHRW are correct in the link above for 2009 it's a double @ RHRW

BRCA North East Regional - 2wd: 11th / 4wd: 12th July


Looks like someone's got my shift calender again ;)

mmmmmmm ....... after G's quote above, I was surprised to read the RHRW anouncement. Which is it G, have they published before ratification, or has someone made a unilateral decision before the NE Consortium meeting takes place? :D ;)

johnboy 31-01-2009 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baD (Post 202527)
As a spill over from another thread, it appears that YORCC are running an event for the NE & one for the ME at somewhere called Blyth.
Now if YORCC call their new track New York, there will be even more confusion about how long it will take to get there, than there is already, between the various places called Blyth in the (so called) North East.

If there is another thread re Venues for NE Off-Road Regionals, can someone point me to it? If so, please delete this. If not, would anyone else like to share their views here?

As a comparison,
ME round trip of their venues in 2009 is 175 miles
MW mileage around theirs is 251 miles
NE - as was, (ex Bury) was 216 miles - add Bury and it becomes 290 miles - then add Blyth (the right one) instead of York, you get 321 miles

As a starter comment - stretching the region so far, will simply limit the numbers going to the extemity venues, and whereas Blyth may well benefit from non-regional entries, the Northern Clubs will not.
I hope for the continuance of Off-Road clubs in the Far North, that Bury is part of NE 2009 and Blyth is part of ME 2009.

ba - a Northern driver on occasions

Here we go again the same topic every year . Lets talk about distance then i live in halifax and i dont moan about travelling up to race in the north east. I hope Blyth is in our calender for regionals.


ps maybe there should be a new region consisting of Blyth , Batley , Bury and Southport . Then i wouldn't have to travel as far:lol: (this last comment is a wind up not to be taken seriously)

Jez 01-02-2009 01:10 AM

venues
 
surely a wider choice of tracks is better for everybody.it is each persons preference to as many or as few meetings they attend.not all rounds count do they?so missing the farthest shouldnt matter to most of us should it?is bury entering ne region as well as nw?hope so.thanks jez.

Lindsay 01-02-2009 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Col (Post 202532)
because Blythe isn't in the North East?

Or the North?

Or the East?

For my 2 cents worth if our region can't be bothered to support the tracks and clubs it's already got (batley...), who can be bothered to drive all the way to Blythe?

Get your facts right.
Worksop as always been in the North East as was Scarboro,Harrogate.
We never had to Travel as far as Durham and Jarrow as they had there own region.
Do yo see any of us who have to travel at least 50 miles [currently] to get to a outdoor meeting complaining.
May be you should check how the regions were originally formed and which clubs had a big part in it. You will find that those in the FAR NORTH were not in it.

Col 01-02-2009 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lindsay (Post 203288)
Get your facts right.
Worksop as always been in the North East as was Scarboro,Harrogate.
We never had to Travel as far as Durham and Jarrow as they had there own region.
Do yo see any of us who have to travel at least 50 miles [currently] to get to a outdoor meeting complaining.
May be you should check how the regions were originally formed and which clubs had a big part in it. You will find that those in the FAR NORTH were not in it.

Maybe you should check how the regions are now - that's what counts not how it was when you were 12. I've no personal problem with Blythe because I'm not doing regionals again this year. I was just pointing out that as a N/E region Blythe goegraphicaly does not qualify (which scarborough and harrogate do...)
My original post is still valid - with Batley struggling to survive due to lack of people, is Blythe viable?

hazzelarator 01-02-2009 12:11 PM

Just spotted this thread! If it helps I'd be happy to come to an arrangement to use the venue where the 'indoor special' was held on the 20th December? I was considering more frequent use and have pretty much secured some of my own track marking. Probably a bit late but if not feel free to drop me an E-mail or msg on here! cheers HV

Lee 01-02-2009 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baD (Post 203005)
mmmmmmm ....... after G's quote above, I was surprised to read the RHRW anouncement. Which is it G, have they published before ratification, or has someone made a unilateral decision before the NE Consortium meeting takes place? :D ;)

I think if people think a bit, its pretty obvious that we will be visiting Blyth as part of our regional series.

1. Its run by york club, why would they race on a field when they have a purpose built astro (all weather) track

2. It has a national, so it would be daft not to hold a regional.

3. York is the local club to the regional rep and one of the people behind the resurrection of the blyth track.


Now for me, without seeing dates etc, i would say it had a fantastic chance of getting a NE regional :lol:

rcracer 01-02-2009 04:58 PM

The more tracks available the better all new tracks should be welcomed with open arms.

Lee 01-02-2009 05:05 PM

Totally agree Neil, people would complain if we only had 2 grass tracks to race on, and no matter how good jumps are made its never the same as racing on a purpose built track.

Mike Hudson 01-02-2009 05:12 PM

my dream regional venues for this year... :drool:
Blyths purpose built astro track
South Shields grass track by the beach again
Batleys purpose built astro/grass track
Teeside grass track

Lee 01-02-2009 05:14 PM

Teesside are not doing one this summer Mike, from my reliable source ;)

ben 01-02-2009 05:15 PM

Flat grass tracks :cry: Gotta admit the best man made jump ive seen on a grass track has to be the table top-kicker at jarrow :drool:

Mike Hudson 01-02-2009 05:16 PM

:o whos gona fill in for them? grass track at york then? ;)

Alan1467 01-02-2009 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Hudson (Post 203393)
my dream regional venues for this year... :drool:
Blyths purpose built astro track
South Shields grass track by the beach again
Batleys purpose built astro/grass track
Teeside grass track

South Shield / NERCR will not be happening


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