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timmy121 20-01-2009 07:36 PM

rc shops taking paypal
 
got a bit of money in paypal now and want more minipins
busy anybody know if there is an rc shop that takes paypal
cheers pete

robbo145 20-01-2009 07:43 PM

Get a paypal topup card then you can spend it anywhere that takes Visa.

Bungleaio 20-01-2009 07:44 PM

here you go fella http://www.m-k-racing.com/

There's at least one more if I remember it I'll let you know

mark christopher 20-01-2009 07:45 PM

mbmodels in leeds can help you http://www.rccarshop.co.uk/

i4n 20-01-2009 07:49 PM

http://www.modelsport.co.uk/

http://demonpowerproducts.co.uk/

Two more :D

Bungleaio 20-01-2009 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by i4n (Post 199105)

How could I forget :cry: I order from there all the time

dave g 20-01-2009 08:31 PM

bolton model mart also

Carole_MH 20-01-2009 08:53 PM

also apex models,,,,,they accept paypal if you order online

boultspeed 20-01-2009 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by robbo145 (Post 199101)
Get a paypal topup card then you can spend it anywhere that takes Visa.

you can but there is a £4.95 charge to use it , I was looking at this then saw the charges :thumbdown:

damo666 20-01-2009 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by boultspeed (Post 199163)
you can but there is a £4.95 charge to use it , I was looking at this then saw the charges :thumbdown:

not according to this

http://www.paypal.com/en_GB/m/spot_feetable.htm

timmy121 20-01-2009 10:04 PM

cheers lads for the fast response's
ended up using m k racing cos i have used them before
and it tells you how many of that item they have in stock which is a graet idea just hope they come for the week end now

damo666 20-01-2009 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by timmy121 (Post 199172)
cheers lads for the fast response's
ended up using m k racing cos i have used them before
and it tells you how many of that item they have in stock which is a graet idea just hope they come for the week end now

Mk racing is the most reliable shop i use and with live stock levels its great. I can order before 3pm on Friday and i will have my order on Saturday.

boultspeed 21-01-2009 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by damo666 (Post 199168)


read again

first charge on list £4.95 card purchase fee

mark christopher 21-01-2009 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by boultspeed (Post 199163)
you can but there is a £4.95 charge to use it , I was looking at this then saw the charges :thumbdown:

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Originally Posted by boultspeed (Post 199240)
read again

first charge on list £4.95 card purchase fee

thats to buy the card, transactions are free

boultspeed 21-01-2009 09:30 AM

D,oh I must be thick :blush:

damo666 04-02-2009 03:16 AM

Just to bring this topic back up i am wondering why ALL model shops don't take paypal. I only use paypal for buying stuff online and cannot understand why some shops don't take it. I know they have to pay commission but surely giving the customer an option to pay with paypal even with the commision added as an extra is better than losing a sale.
I use Mk 99% of the time for 2 simple reasons, live stock levels and paypal. I hear of shops struggling and complaining but making it harder for the customer to buy from them is daft.

Rant over

Darren Boyle 04-02-2009 11:37 AM

We for one dont accept it for two simple reasons. It is WAY too expensive compared to credit card transactions to process (nealry 4.5% more) and we for one work as hard as we can to get the best prices for our customers and stock high levels to match these prices, this would all go out the window if everything rose in accordance with the higher charge rates. Customers always want a shops best price (understandably) but this would not be possible (not for us) if the running costs were to be higher for us to operate.
Second reason, there are (I'm afraid to say) too many bogus and untrustworthy people who use Paypal (mainly on ebay) and we have already encountered several transactions (when we used to take it) were we "knew" customers had recieved their goods (they had phoned us with technical questions on "how" they now fit the parts to their cars) and yet several days later a Paypal dispute would arrive claiming they have not recieved them, swiftly followed by Paypal removing the funds from our account and returning them, to the buyer.
This is OK if we have sent high value goods out by a signed for delivery were we can prove otherwise, but 80% of what we (and I am sure most model shops send) is just normal first class "un-signed for" jiffy bags, which you cannot trace delivery of.
We were powerless to do anything and after this happened a few times we called it a day with Paypal, as they say the small terrible few ruin it for the majority of genuine users out there.
Just my two penneth......

damo666 04-02-2009 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DMS Racing (Post 204803)
We for one dont accept it for two simple reasons. It is WAY too expensive compared to credit card transactions to process (nealry 4.5% more) and we for one work as hard as we can to get the best prices for our customers and stock high levels to match these prices, this would all go out the window if everything rose in accordance with the higher charge rates. Customers always want a shops best price (understandably) but this would not be possible (not for us) if the running costs were to be higher for us to operate.
Second reason, there are (I'm afraid to say) too many bogus and untrustworthy people who use Paypal (mainly on ebay) and we have already encountered several transactions (when we used to take it) were we "knew" customers had recieved their goods (they had phoned us with technical questions on "how" they now fit the parts to their cars) and yet several days later a Paypal dispute would arrive claiming they have not recieved them, swiftly followed by Paypal removing the funds from our account and returning them, to the buyer.
This is OK if we have sent high value goods out by a signed for delivery were we can prove otherwise, but 80% of what we (and I am sure most model shops send) is just normal first class "un-signed for" jiffy bags, which you cannot trace delivery of.
We were powerless to do anything and after this happened a few times we called it a day with Paypal, as they say the small terrible few ruin it for the majority of genuine users out there.
Just my two penneth......

But could you not have an option like i said for the customer to pay the 4.5% and the extra 70p for recorded delivery. Most of the stuff i order comes in a recorded delivery jiffy anyway.

DaveG28 04-02-2009 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by damo666 (Post 204823)
But could you not have an option like i said for the customer to pay the 4.5% and the extra 70p for recorded delivery. Most of the stuff i order comes in a recorded delivery jiffy anyway.

It may be different for shops but as far as I know recorded delivery isn't enough, you don't just need pod, you need the signature scanned online too? Or did I dream it!?

Also believe your not allowed to pass on Paypal charges, in the UK anyway!?

DaveG28 04-02-2009 12:36 PM

Correction, the scanned signature is only needed for items over about £150

Huw333 04-02-2009 12:46 PM

I wonder why more shops dont accept AMEX? :rolleyes::D

I've noticed recently booking a package holiday that a lot of travel comapanies state that if you use a credit card there is usually a 2% fee to pay. I dont see why shops couldnt do the same. Personally though i'd rather just pay the price that is advertised.

Edit: FYI, Antics is an excellent chain of shops that accept any type of payment and also show stock levels at their wharehouse and all their shops (take note DMS! :D)

Here is their website: http://www.rccarsandtrucks.co.uk/

DaveG28 04-02-2009 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Huw333 (Post 204837)
I wonder why more shops dont accept AMEX? :rolleyes::D

I've noticed recently booking a package holiday that a lot of travel comapanies state that if you use a credit card there is usually a 2% fee to pay. I dont see why shops couldnt do the same. Personally though i'd rather just pay the price that is advertised.

Edit: FYI, Antics is an excellent chain of shops that accept any type of payment and also show stock levels at their wharehouse and all their shops (take note DMS! :D)

Here is their website: http://www.rccarsandtrucks.co.uk/

I don't think Amex is just higher fee's, I think payment structure etc is different and involves more work too, at least it was where I used to work!

terry.sc 04-02-2009 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by damo666 (Post 204823)
But could you not have an option like i said for the customer to pay the 4.5% and the extra 70p for recorded delivery. Most of the stuff i order comes in a recorded delivery jiffy anyway.

Recorded delivery isn't accepted by Paypal as proof, it's got to be tracked online so that's special delivery starting at £4.60 for the smallest item. So that's an extra 4.00 for postage, plus 4.5%, plus say an extra 10% to cover the costs of dealing with paypal whenever someone tries the 'non delivery' scam.

If someone has a merchant account to accept credit card payments there's no good reason to accept paypal.

As for shops not charging extra for using credit cards over debit cards, travel companies do it because it's the same at the majority of them so you have no choice but to pay the extra wherever you go.

ashleyb4 04-02-2009 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Huw333 (Post 204837)
Edit: FYI, Antics is an excellent chain of shops that accept any type of payment and also show stock levels at their wharehouse and all their shops (take note DMS! :D)

I think thats a bit harsh If i want to order something from dms i give them a quick ring and they have all my details stored super quick and super friendly service. Also DMS is cheaper. :p

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Darren Boyle 04-02-2009 07:24 PM

Huw, I took your comment tongue in cheek anyhow, but as Ash has said we are acrooss the borad a LOT cheaper than Antics on all lines that we sell. They are a large chain of stores owned by a larger coorporate company with the power and money to put this sort of structure in place, simply not feasable for a sole trader type model shop.

AMEX is processed exactly the same as any other card, just except they charge about 5% commision (4% more than anyone else) which is why we dont accept it either.

At the end of the day, we made our choice to offer the selection of products that we do and at the best prices we can, we have worked really hard at that over the 17 years we have been trading now and to simply "add 5-10%" back on these prices is not the direction we wish for DMS to go down, it may be for other stores who may be looking for alternative ways to entice new buyers, but not the right choice for us.

For us we base our core business objective on a few simple criteria.... good prices (since that is what drives most people), good stock (since its no good being cheapest if you have nothing to sell), helpful advice (no good having the right stuff if you dont know your customers needs) and fast service (since everyone wants stuff yesterday, or even earlier!!). If we get these four right or there abouts the rest of the business almost takes care of itself.......... (but you still cant please everyone, as we always get reminded)

DaveG28 04-02-2009 08:38 PM

Sorry Darren, must have been how our business worked that meant Amex was differently sorted for us!

Huw333 05-02-2009 01:02 PM

I'm always being told by shops they dont accept AMEX because of the high charges.

My apologies if anyone took offense to my comments - i wasn't referring to the payment methods DMS accepts but the fact that they dont show stock levels on their website. I was just reminded of last march when i ordered some gears for a KO 2113 servo, not knowing they were out of stock, until several weeks later when i was told they would probably never be in stock. Although i understand that this was not their fault so i was not put off and have recently ordered several items from DMS which arrived within couple of days.

Out of interest have you had any luck with the KO supplier?

Darren Boyle 05-02-2009 01:36 PM

In a word HUW, NO, KO are "sh*$£" at the moment on several spares for key products including the 2113 servo gears, STILL out of stock but not confirmed as obsolete either...... Sorry :blush:

As for live stock levels, until we find a system that suits our budget (without spending £1,000's) that can be "accurate", (since everyone I see in use today "still" has its flaws and is only as up to date as the info input by a human when an order arrives), then we will not have live stock levels sadly. I dont wish our website to have a stock indicator saying "No Stock" or "Zero" because our money has been spent on the system "instead" of the stock it is designed to show.......;)


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