New DEX210F Team Durango - IFMAR Electric Offroad Worlds
 

IFMAR Electric Offroad Worlds - 2wd New DEX210F Team Durango

http://events.redrc.net/2015/10/chas...ravis-amezcua/

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Hopefully the dex210F is realeased this year:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Just make your own. Amezcua has.

I'm impressed with Travis' scratchbuilding skills if that's home-made! :rolleyes:
He has managed to make a car that looks exactly like the car I'm doing the instruction manual for right now.

a serious answer for those interested...

the DEX210F is a DEX210v2 front end with an all-new chassis and all-new rear end design/geometry.
The layout was chosen because we think this is the best option for the big-picture range of TD products and also based for performance on high-traction tracks.
I think Tebo choosing the shaft car after testing laydown and shaft car really goes a long way to back up that choice

This is not a special car made for the worlds, this is a car made and designed for production and performance on medium grip Carpet and high grip Astroturf tracks all around the world

This car is the first of the next generation of TD cars which have shown their worth quite recently

Looks good Chris, good job by you and the team :thumbsup:

Fair enough Chris, it was all the counter sunk holes drilled... and the 4wd rear/2wd front end, and easy to cut angles that made my untrained eye thing it was home made. I guess the chassis stiffeners give it away though.

Good point about the format, its working for Tebo (compared with the (new) other kyosho car Naoto is using), and I dare say that Ty Tessman would be in a better place if he was running Richard Lowe's D413/B5m cut'n'shut along the same lines.

Good luck with it. :thumbsup:

I'm currently running two dex210s one with a 8mm chassis. I was going to upgrade to the dex210v2 but i think i will wait and see what come's out of the Team Durango stable.:thumbsup:

Is there an infill piece to close the open area between the chassis cradle and the angle the rear of the chassis is cut at, right below the ESC and lipo?

Is this the car that was used at the Invernational? I never got chance to have a look.

Looks very similar to the RB6 shaft drive version that Tebo is running and thats working pretty good too.

Out of interest why is the shaft drive better than say a 3 gear or 4 gear tranny on astro turf. .

....and with the Cougar KF2 orlowski is running its very similar layout but belt drive is that a middle ground between the two extremes or worst still than a shaft.

Its all very interesting since I used to run a TC3 years ago when I gave up and everyone said (torque steer etc = belt is better)

Any reason the nose looks so fat? I see no reason it can't be slimmed up a bit, there's a lot of empty space up front.

Judging from all the countersunk holes, the extra space up front could be for an alternate motor configuration with saddle packs.

Awwww
Shucks!
:thumbsup:

I'm in lust... How long before I can get my hands on one? Chris be a man and give me urs ;) haha

Is this replacing the 210v2 or running alongside it??

The DEX210 (MM/RM) 2WD platform will still remain current and be developed. the DEX210F will run along side that car as the focussed medium-high traction 2WD car.

Can't give any details on release dates yet, first news on those (and ore details on the car) will come via www.team-durango.com website

This is a VERY exciting new car, A lot of time, thought, effort and development has gone into this car. One of the optional layouts has been seen before, but hasn't that always been the case? (rear motor stick pack 2WD cars, the first mid-motor 2WD cars)
The performance comes from the details and tuneability of the car, the features that the car has to allow you to get the car working the way YOU want it to.
The DEX210F has these kind of useful features.

(Yes it was the same car that myself and James Ambrose used at oOple race)
Interestingly too, I used the car in 2 rounds of practise at the Euros on dirt and my best lap was actually better with the DEX210F. But it was too risky to run the car if the track lost traction. (the track had polished in previous events and I was concerned that would happen again - it didn't, it gained grip! haha)

Finally, regarding the toqrue steer, I think with brushless motors the rotor is far lighter than the armatures used to be from brushed motors. I think any effect is far less with the brushless generation.

It would be nice to see that rear end configuration in the 4wd buggy.:p Bruce C.

I believe thats exactly what the v5 is ;)

I think it looks a fair car lots of space and that was one I lacked with my db2

Be interesting to see it at club level

Has anyone heard any more about the DEX210f release yet???

The first thing that will happen is the kit page on http://www.team-durango.com/ will go live after that any offical dates will be released.

Its an exciting new platform for Team Durango and is going to be great for astro and carpet tracks.

Hi Chris,

as you say the Dex210f has the Dex210 front. I own a Dex210v2 and have problems breaking the front wishbones frequently on this track: https://youtu.be/jdvaMDbIsi8
Its indoors, but cold. Track is on concrete with 2-3 layers of carpet. If you fail to land on wheels after a jump, or you miss the carpet the wishbone is sure to break.
I love the Dex and would like to continue to run it, but get frustrated over this as my friends running other brands do not have the stability issue.
My question is, have the wishbones improved for the 210f, and will they fit my Dex210v2?
For the Dex210v3, will I be able to use those wishbones once the car comes out?

I'm looking so much for a more robust solution to not constantly have to think about not breaking stuff on the car.

Hope you can share some information on this.

Thank you.

Regards,
Michael

Hi Michael,

Where exactly does the arms break?
Have you tried boiling them?

Hi,

boiling? OMG - have never heard something like that. No I never did something like that.
It always breaks right before the cross arm with the droop screw. See this picture: https://goo.gl/photos/UJvsQimfKq9KS2498
Nobody else having this issue?

Regards,
Michael

Yes, i've often read over on rctech, that some people do boil the plastic parts for a couple of minutes, to make them a little softer.
Not exactly sure, but if i remember correctly, they put them into hot water for about 5-10 minutes, but the water should not bubble...

wow... everyday learning something new. Well I give it a shot. Maybe it works. Would still be cool if Team Durango would add some material in this area for the next revision of the wishbones ...

Remember 25 years ago that it was advised to boil the plastics to de stress them

Mickru, have u tried using the gullwing style wishbones instead ?http://www.rccarshop.co.uk/index.php...i-state=dialog
Use them on my 210 and haven't broken one in months and I'm a newby driver, so have my fair share of big accidents!

Thing going from gullwing to straight (or Vice Versa) requires you to replace half the suspension........ as the lower mounts for the shocks are in a different place.

Yes, i always boiled my v1 HD ball ends, with great sucess...
Tell us, ifit did work for you, too.

Thanks for all the support and ideas here :-)
I will boil the front arms / wishbones tonight. I plan to race the Dex Saturday night. I will post if I was able to break them or if they were stable enough after that treatment.

And no, I have not tried the gullwing version so far, and from I read it isn't easily done either.

Main difference going to gullwings would be that the shock bodies are longer on the v1 than v2 the plastics themselves are cheap enough.

Are we likely to see this kit before the new year??

Hello Michael,

And, did it work?

Well, change of plan on Saturday. No time to race :-( !!
Next chance for me this coming Friday. For sure I will post the results!

Well, happend again. I'm really sad about this situation. My friends just keep on racing. Not sure, what to do. I guess I have a Dex210v2 for sale now... :-(

Hi Michael,

Have you had a look at the inner hinge pin, too?
Not that it is bend and that is the case, your front arm is braking all the time?
Does it break always at the same side, or on both?
May you should check the front bulkhead eather, put the hinge pin in it, without the arm and look, if there is some play, so the pin doesnt sit tight anymore....

Dont give up, with the dex210, it is a realy good car!

Well I just broke the other side as well. The pins roll just fine on glas surface. They are not bend in any way. Bulkhead can be considered new. I bought an Exotec few weeks ago. I tried all I can think off, but you do not race fast if you always fear to break something. It so disappointing ...

I would not give up if some of TD drivers testing the upcoming new stuff would say that the front wishbones of the new cars do fit on the v2 and are stronger than before, or provide more flexibility. But so far I was ignored. Nobody is allowed to post anything like that I guess...

I do understand, that is frustrating!

From what i've seen on pictures of the new cars, the front end doesnt have changed, so the new parts could still fit the v2!? But thats just my speculation... but i allso saw on some pics from Travis's car, they have tested some different material front arms and other parts at the front end, they do look like to have a different color, more gray....
Looks like, they are from the same(stronger and lighter) material, like on the DETC410v2, so they have maybe a higher carbon contend in it.

Edit: Here is a pic of Travis's car and the link to the worlds pic-gallery from redrc, where i did saw it:

http://events.redrc.net/event-galler...allery/page/35

Have you tryed running your DEX210v2 without the alloy bulk head on it and just run the kit plastic one ? Also what type of crash is causing the arms to break as I have run a DEX210v2 since it was released and only ever broke one arm when it hit the side of a ramp...?