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johnboy 18-09-2015 11:51 AM

K2
 
http://eos.redrc.net/2015/09/chassis...al-orlowski-5/

neallewis 18-09-2015 07:01 PM

It looks awesome in the flesh, really nice design features. Will work well.

lost? 18-09-2015 07:10 PM

Dear santa..... As ive been a good lad, this year could i have........

buggy#0 18-09-2015 07:28 PM

The bodyshell looks a bit odd; as though someone took a KF2 shell but forgot it was going to be put on a 4WD, so they lumped some extra lexan on the edges. It kind of reminds me of the SX/SX2 shell.

It does look nice though, and it appears to have a very low CG. In practice it pulled out of the corners like no other car, it stays very flat under load, almost like a TC. Looked to have a little bit of understeer, as he was the only car (that I noticed at least) that wasn't able to sharply rotate around the apex at the end of the main straight. Could've just been a product of being quite stiffly sprung, it seemed to have a lot of rebound over the little doubles and small jumps too.

neallewis 18-09-2015 07:46 PM

I'll watch orlowski tomorrow, only watched Dave Poulters so far. I doubt anyone has under steer at this track. I've removed six rows of pins and glued sidewalls in 4wd.
Car looks long and thin. Reminds me of Darc Durango.

buggy#0 18-09-2015 08:14 PM

Michał said they were trying to get some more steering from it, but it ended up with less, which explains the lack of rotation.

I didn't see it grip roll a lot though, and he only had 3 rows off on the front and one off on the rear. 8th on the first day is a very strong start.

steveproracing 18-09-2015 09:14 PM

Both roll bars look so thick on michals car though. Plus stiffish springs on front. That has to be contrabuting to the understeer. But as ever with setup its balance.

schmacher 19-09-2015 12:26 AM

guess i could use the sx3 body on it

madmulc 27-09-2015 08:32 PM

Any news on when it will be released?

mark christopher 27-09-2015 08:49 PM

Probably after the world's before Xmas

hansie 28-09-2015 01:30 PM

carry over parts from K1?
 
Hello all,

I have been running schuey 4WD buggy's since the release of the SX3.
So I have a nice supply of spares for my current K1 (soon to be retired).
Do we know which parts will carry over from the K1?
I am hoping arms, hubs, diffs, steering blocks, etc.

Regards,

Hans

h0m3sy 25-10-2015 11:26 AM

Any word on a release date for the K2?

johnboy 25-10-2015 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by h0m3sy (Post 929963)
Any word on a release date for the K2?

Word on the grapevine is the middle of Nov

lost? 25-10-2015 02:22 PM

some shops stating available mid november to pre order.

honrico Diablo 16-11-2015 04:23 PM

http://www.racing-cars.com/pp/Car%20...om/CAT_K2.html

johnboy 16-11-2015 04:44 PM

Looks really good Schumacher released another top car.

Sorry old faithful K1 time for retirement.

micholix 16-11-2015 05:59 PM

This Cat looks so good, i may have to change the brand for the 4wd!?

I was allready nearby, to buy a K1, when it came out, than i decided to stay with my dex, but now i think, i cant resist anymore....:wub

Actually, i like, they use some parts from the sv and sx on this car, i still have a nearly new svr and some spares, so i can carry some of the parts over, if i get one of these?

mark christopher 16-11-2015 07:58 PM

allot were running them at worksop, looked good and Danny took ftd I believe. had a good look round his and looks really nice bit of kit

gear box tops are the same rear arms are sv2 I think by the looks , front arms same, front caster block different
front inboard mounts same, new ball cups should never pop off


New - Alloy chassis side stiffeners.
New - Multiple battery fitting options. Saddle and shorty options.
New - Captive ball joints.
New - Reverse rotation, mid motor layout.
New - Split top decks for greater flex characteristics and easier maintainance.
New - Compact steering system for improved in-line weight placement with adjustable, dynamic ackerman.
New - Super consistent, industry leading QUAD pad, vented slipper with easy access and NEW Ultra Fine adjustment spring.
New - Optimised narrow chassis shape to improve roll stability. Improved ground clearance on roll.
New - Aerial mount.
New - Ultra low motor mount.
New - Rear pivot straps.
New - Battery thumb screws.
New - Transmission housings.
New - Longer wheelbase.
New - Centre-line motor position for lower polar moment.
New - Front yokes with adjustable roll centre heights.
New - Stronger outer rear hinge pin.
New - 2.5mm aluminium chassis.
New - 3.0mm aerospace grade carbon fibre top decks.
New - Moulded side pods for superb dirt protection.
New - Stronger front, inner hinge pins with new mounting system.
New - Easy access centre belt pulley.
New - Sleek, ultra narrow body shell.
New - Large “CLAW” high down force rear wing package.
Optimised 2 belt transmission with efficient low tension Bando belts running on large CNC machined pulleys.
Big bore shocks with big bore “CORE” springs, titanium nitride shafts, threaded collars and twin o-ring sealing.
Medium flex front suspension arms as standard.
Gear Differential with hardened steel gears and super hard outputs. Excellent Diff Life!
Optional ball diff available.
Strong steel universal driveshafts.
28 Rubber sealed, super precision ball bearings throughout.
Horizontally split transmission housings for easy diff access and maintenance.
Class leading suspension geometry with durable components and a huge range of optional alloy parts, offering adjustments to setup your CAT K2 to all track conditions.
Adjustable rear roll centres, inboard toe-in/toe-out, anti-squat and track width (using optional speed secret parts).
Adjustable front roll centres, rake angle and track width (using optional speed secret parts).
Strong, rigid 4mm aero space carbon fibre shock brackets

cmgreen 16-11-2015 09:36 PM

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: :thumbsup:

dwp102 16-11-2015 09:48 PM

Does the motor rotate the same way still?!

badger5 16-11-2015 10:12 PM

The motor rotates the same was as the SX3 so opposite of a K1

micholix 17-11-2015 05:30 AM

As i'm realy want one of this Cats and i have to order from germany, i do have some questions, before i put the button to order...:)

Does the mounting system and cf strap for the shorty battery come with the kit, or is this an option? I couldnt find that in the discription?
Is it worth, or naccesery to upgrade to the aloy upper transmission housings?
And could someone please tell me, what parts i should order to carry as spares in my pit box, too?

This would be my first cat, so i dont have spares, exept a view from my svr, i saw, they could be interchangeable!?


Thanks in advance and

johnboy 17-11-2015 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by micholix (Post 932262)
As i'm realy want one of this Cats and i have to order from germany, i do have some questions, before i put the button to order...:)

Does the mounting system and cf strap for the shorty battery come with the kit, or is this an option? I couldnt find that in the discription?
Is it worth, or naccesery to upgrade to the aloy upper transmission housings?
And could someone please tell me, what parts i should order to carry as spares in my pit box, too?

This would be my first cat, so i dont have spares, exept a view from my svr, i saw, they could be interchangeable!?


Thanks in advance and


Alloy upper gear box tops worth getting
Shorty battery strap kit is an extra but only £5.99
Spares the normal you would carry for any car.
You will like the cat I've been running the K1 and if the K2 is an improvement on that then will be a great car.

badger5 17-11-2015 07:23 AM

I think you will find that the strap to mount a shortly in the transverse position is in the kit but to fit a shorty length ways is an option.

The front alloy upper gearbox top adds strength as the plastic one can break in a heavy crash.
The rear alloy upper gearbox top isn't really needed for strength but allows the rear shocks to be fitted on the rear of the wishbones.
The alloy front suspension pivot block also adds strength.
The Core RC Spring kits are very good and a reasonable price, normally kit pistons are good.

Looking at the kit set up for astro, the kit front springs are white while the rears are black. So the softest on the front and hardest on the rear?

micholix 17-11-2015 08:27 AM

Thanks for that infos!:thumbsup:

Some more questions did come up.
Do you change the internal gearing often and if so, what is a common internal gearing? Or is the kit standard a good point to stay with?
On the manual, the shock covers are listed as an option, are they worth to get, too?

Thx again and

cmgreen 17-11-2015 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwp102 (Post 932242)
Does the motor rotate the same way still?!

No, see pics :)

mark christopher 17-11-2015 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dwp102 (Post 932242)
Does the motor rotate the same way still?!

Yes the motor rotates the same as all motors, the pinion will rotate anticlockwise when looking from the pinion end.

mark christopher 17-11-2015 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmgreen (Post 932270)
No, see pics :)

The motor rotates the same as any other motor. As in the pinion will rotate anticlockwise when looking from the pinion end.

cmgreen 17-11-2015 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 932272)
The motor rotates the same as any other motor. As in the pinion will rotate anticlockwise when looking from the pinion end.

Trick question I fell for LOL

johnboy 17-11-2015 12:11 PM

[QUOTE=badger5;932267]I think you will find that the strap to mount a shortly in the transverse position is in the kit but to fit a shorty length ways is an option.

That's what I was referring to and the fella I was answering understood what my answers was.

micholix 17-11-2015 12:19 PM

HolyMoly, that will be an shoping list by ~ € 700,-!
How to explain that my wife....:D

I could declare it as my personal christmas present!:woot:

mark christopher 17-11-2015 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badger5 (Post 932246)
The motor rotates the same was as the SX3 so opposite of a K1


nope the motor rotates exactly the same in both cars....

badger5 17-11-2015 07:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 932340)
nope the motor rotates exactly the same in both cars....

In relation to the wheels the motor spins in the opposite direction to the K1.

There are other ways for you to put you point across, at the moment you're doing nothing for this thread. All understood what was meant!

Ross 17-11-2015 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badger5 (Post 932342)
In relation to the wheels the motor spins in the opposite direction to the K1.

There are other ways for you to put you point across, at the moment you're doing nothing for this thread. All understood what was meant!

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

mark christopher 18-11-2015 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by badger5 (Post 932342)
In relation to the wheels the motor spins in the opposite direction to the K1.

There are other ways for you to put you point across, at the moment you're doing nothing for this thread. All understood what was meant!

Now you add a few extra words your comment is correct. How you and others answered originally implied that the motor needed to be reversed.
So as you say, there are other ways to put your point across. :thumbsup:

micholix 19-11-2015 07:05 PM

I've preordered mine, hopfully it arrives at the beginning/mid of next week!?

Did anyone got his K2 allready?
If so, how are the first impressions?

marley 20-11-2015 07:10 AM

I've preordered the k2 hopefully it'll arrive tomorrow or Monday. It's my first 4wd so can anybody suggest a good stating point for motor turn and gearing. I run on a medium-large size Astro track and I gear my 2wd kf at 76 spur 24-25 pinion with a 7.5 motor if that's any help. I was planning on building the kit pretty much from the manual and then working from there but are there any essential additions/upgrades that I should fit straight away. Thanks Andy

badger5 20-11-2015 07:25 AM

Hi Andy, for Torch I would suggest the vented shock caps so you can run the shocks in emulsion set up, smoothes the car out over the bumps quite a lot.
The front alloy upper transmission housings a good to have for strength but not essential first off. I also use the alloy rear camber link on my K1 and KF2.

A 7.5 or 6.5 would be good motor wise, can't remember gearing but I expect something like a 22t pinion would be a good starting point for a 6.5.

Let me know how you get on, I'm getting mine delivered to where I'm working at the moment (Isle of Islay) and will build here. Look forward to seeing you at Torch and Newbury in December when I get home. :thumbsup:

Rich Roberts

marley 20-11-2015 09:25 AM

Cheers for the info Rich, I've wanted a 4wd for a while and couldn't resist when I saw the K2 as it looks pretty cool.

nicVEGAchildJR 20-11-2015 05:11 PM

i run on my K2 a 83T spur and a 21-22 pinion depending on track size


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