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Stickygeko 30-06-2015 04:51 PM

Advice on a new ESC please
 
Hi guys,

Im looking to get a new ESC and need some advice/views
firstly im not made of money and have around £100 set aside for an esc

I drive a b5m mainly outdoor astro (bury metro and southport) and indoor carpet (ribble valley)

currently i have a speed passion reventon R with an 8.5t sp motor
Cannot fault the set up, easy to set up, never let me down, really smooth etc

Car handles great but i really feel i need more top end and low down grunt. At the regionals on sunday at southport in the corner sections i was pulling away from people and overtaking well (car handles great) but on the straight people would catch me quite easily hence my yearn for more top end. low down i feel i need more punch for when you need a good sharp squirt to nip infront of someone... but my current set up just lacks in that department.

I have a hobbyking 120a in my box with an orca rx2 8.5t - but im sure its the ESC, often it would just shoot off full pelt on its own randomly - a glitch buster calmed this down but ive no confidence in it and at regionals i dont want to be accident taking people out cos the cars decided to shoot off on its own so looking for a reliable brand.

just really looking for input, im no here near a top diver, usually B final at ribble and bury depends how many turn up but was in B final the other week. I know I can do better as Im really smooth and 99% clean

Esc's im looking at

reventon pro (as SP havent let me down with the reventon r)
vampire SR1+ - i like the idea of not having to mess with the boost etc
Sky Rc toro 120a - a friend has one and recommends it - plus is only around £60
LRP flow - I know several guys with these so must be decent
Absima revenge cts 160a

or any others?

Thanks for looking

Squidzilla 30-06-2015 05:23 PM

I've been running Vampires in my buggies and have no regrets at all.

I used to run a reventon pro, and a hobbyking before that.

Unless you are running faster than 5.5 turns you don't need the SR1+ but the fan is always handy (but can be bought seperately)

Nick.W 30-06-2015 05:38 PM

I've got an LRP works flow in my spare KF. Good Esc very smooth etc. only down side is making adjustments to it and waiting for the lights etc. Other than that would recommend it. I use an Orion R10.1 in my KF2 but I'm guessing one of those will be out of budget, maybe worth a look second hand?

InsideLineModels 30-06-2015 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stickygeko (Post 917343)

reventon pro (as SP havent let me down with the reventon r)
vampire SR1+ - i like the idea of not having to mess with the boost etc
Sky Rc toro 120a - a friend has one and recommends it - plus is only around £60
LRP flow - I know several guys with these so must be decent
Absima revenge cts 160a

There's a few good ones in that list and these days you can can a VERY good ESC for around £100.

The Absima is excellent, i run that and have done for nearly 2 years without a failure. We have an offer on these at the moment and you can pick one up for £89.95 or £109.95 with the setting box.

Vampire and LRP are also excellent and in your budget.

Any questions feel free to contact me or ask away on here

Kev Lee

Lee1972 30-06-2015 08:44 PM

Paul did you change your pinion as Southport is a longer track than Ribble which would explain why you were pulling away but losing out on top end? Me and Callum both use the Flow top speedo but a bit fiddly to make adjustments.

Ashlandchris 30-06-2015 08:48 PM

I use the reventon pro and with a bit of boost that kicks in after 0.5s it is fine on the straights.
I have an 8.5t in my yz2

Stickygeko 30-06-2015 08:54 PM

pinion
 
Hi lee I used 22 pinion in qualies and went upto 24 for the final. was definitely better, but lacked punch, like you come round a 180° corner and give it a squirt to jump the table top... i kept landing on top of it where as others were clearing it with ease.

discothesnake 30-06-2015 09:38 PM

The fact that's it a Reventon R might be your problem. Are they not only like 40amps or something? I used one briefly and it was okay but did lack a bit of power.

Adam F 30-06-2015 10:05 PM

I've swapped from using the Orion R10 to the Toro TS120A.

Really pleased with it, looks great, works well, reliable and the bluetooth module is very trick.. quite a few people I know have moved away from the high end brands and started using them now too.

Either that or the absima as its basically the same as the orion R10/HW etc etc

Lee1972 30-06-2015 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by discothesnake (Post 917390)
The fact that's it a Reventon R might be your problem. Are they not only like 40amps or something? I used one briefly and it was okay but did lack a bit of power.

Good call missed that bit on Paul's original post. From memory the R is 80 amp my lad used to run one and it did lack grunt and top end but he was quick in the tricky sections.

Stickygeko 30-06-2015 10:35 PM

toro
 
Adam thanks. did it come with the blue tooth module... does it just link to your phone

discothesnake 30-06-2015 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee1972 (Post 917396)
Good call missed that bit on Paul's original post. From memory the R is 80 amp my lad used to run one and it did lack grunt and top end but he was quick in the tricky sections.

Just checked online. It's 70amp so lower end. That's not gonna help.

I swear by Orion R10. I have two that are approaching their fourth birthday!

cutting42 30-06-2015 11:50 PM

I am all Vampire and the SR1 is all you need. My son has one in his B5M and is it great with an 8.5 but will easily drive up to a 5.5. Also it is only around £66 at the moment.

http://www.dms-racing.com/index.php?...197&Itemid=533

dazp83 01-07-2015 07:55 AM

The sky rc Toro gets my vote, as would the 160amp version as it has the capacitors built in. Much better now with the aluminium case.
The Bluetooth module is about £15 and separate but really good and clear for programming on your phone.

Xracer 01-07-2015 08:39 AM

Well I can certainly recommend the GForce TS160 after I went through the same process of searching a while back, I too have LRP Flow team spec but I hate the programming hassle.
I know it is over your stated budget but it is an all aluminium case complete with fan, the SkyRC TS160 runs a little cheaper so that may be worth considering too but I am led to believe the software is not quite as 'sophisticated', whatever that means in performance I don't know! Happy hunting.

Stickygeko 01-07-2015 08:57 AM

thanks
 
Thanks for all your input guys going to a bit more research and try speak to a few guys at the weekend trackside

The Dark Knight 01-07-2015 10:47 AM

Another thumbs up on the Vampire, I've ran there esc & motors in my touring car, GT12 & buggy with great results. Very good for the money.

Stickygeko 02-07-2015 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dark Knight (Post 917443)
Another thumbs up on the Vampire, I've ran there esc & motors in my touring car, GT12 & buggy with great results. Very good for the money.

what ampage is the vamp

cutting42 02-07-2015 12:19 PM

Vampire quote 480A/phase for the SR1 and 764A/phase for the SR1+

The LRP Flow Works is 400A/phase for comparison. The 120A SkyRC Toro has an off road motor limit of 5.5T which is the same as the SR1 limit so I guess around the same. Interestingly the Skyrc 160 has the same motor limits.

Stickygeko 02-07-2015 12:49 PM

160 sky rc
 
This esc looks nice with the advantage theres no caps hanging off it

jimmy noke 02-07-2015 02:05 PM

Esc
 
Vampire SR1+ gets my vote everyday

dazp83 02-07-2015 02:25 PM

Next esc I'll buy will be the sky rc 160amp. And only £70 from Hong Kong on eBay.

Stickygeko 02-07-2015 03:03 PM

hk import
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dazp83 (Post 917573)
Next esc I'll buy will be the sky rc 160amp. And only £70 from Hong Kong on eBay.


what about import tax at customs?

dazp83 02-07-2015 03:21 PM

Very rare to get done from Hong Kong as they normally put it as a gift and worth a small amount.

jimmy noke 02-07-2015 03:23 PM

Esc
 
And we wonder why hobby shops are disappearing from high streets..
Plus there is no backup or any one to talk to for technical help..

I'll only ever buy from the UK

iank55 02-07-2015 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimmy noke (Post 917578)
And we wonder why hobby shops are disappearing from high streets..
Plus there is no backup or any one to talk to for technical help..

I'll only ever buy from the UK

Bang on topic, well done.

Presumably all the DMS and Xfactory references in you signature are to promote your favored shop rather than any indication of sponsorship/ support.

No doubt you insist on paying Darren full price to support the UK market rather than accept any discount he may offer you.

jimmy noke 02-07-2015 04:07 PM

Esc
 
I have and will never purchase from Hong Kong I've heard to many horrer stories and while yes I am a Xfactory driver I still and have always purchased from uk

dazp83 02-07-2015 05:30 PM

Never had a issue myself, I buy mostly from UK but sometimes find a good bargain elsewhere.

clemo 02-07-2015 05:54 PM

VAMPIRE ESC
 
Lets get back on topic
vampire, less than £95 for the sr1+ and from the uk
been in my sons 4wd now for over a year easy to set up and with no probs so far

jimmy noke 02-07-2015 06:07 PM

Esc
 
Well said clemo I run in my short course with a 7.5 T
And also in my supastox running blinky with a 13.5...

And can't fault them

safk 06-07-2015 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam F (Post 917395)
I've swapped from using the Orion R10 to the Toro TS120A.

Really pleased with it, looks great, works well, reliable and the bluetooth module is very trick.. quite a few people I know have moved away from the high end brands and started using them now too.

Either that or the absima as its basically the same as the orion R10/HW etc etc

I've got a couple of the Toro TS120A & I think they are excellent value for money

CamaroTom 05-08-2015 04:29 PM

Hobbyking currently has the Airtronics Super Vortex Zero esc on sale for $99. I just picked one up for my TRF211XM build. Should work nice with my MT4S with the SSL feature.

cmgreen 06-08-2015 08:40 AM

Lrp or Nosram all they way for me!

ralphee 06-08-2015 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by safk (Post 917975)
I've got a couple of the Toro TS120A & I think they are excellent value for money

Use them too, and they have been great, very similar i find to set up as my HW V3.1, good price, and no failures as yet, not tried the Bluetooth module yet, but it does sound trick :thumbsup:

lee

J77MYF 06-08-2015 02:43 PM

The HobyWing V3.1 I bought us absolutely brilliant. It's very linear and easy to setup.

cmgreen 06-08-2015 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamaroTom (Post 921237)
Hobbyking currently has the Airtronics Super Vortex Zero esc on sale for $99. I just picked one up for my TRF211XM build. Should work nice with my MT4S with the SSL feature.

To be fair the Sanwa is on Hobbyking for £65 bargain!

simonrhart 09-08-2015 05:40 PM

I can't speak for the ESC's like the Toro or Hobby Wing but I run Orion R10 160A in both my cars (4WD and 2WD). This ESC has a nice responsive and sensitive throttle, this response can be configured. I also find it delivers power very quickly and is ballistic down the straight. The punch is a nice feature, allows extra torque depending on how an aggressive driver you are or track conditions. Most of these features you'll find in other ESC's I just find the R10 to be more responsive and quicker than most other cars I have driven.

This all said, it's more expensive than £100 but there are usually some for sale on Oople in the sale section normally less than £100.

Stickygeko 10-08-2015 11:15 AM

thanks
 
Thanks all,

In the end after speaking to and seeing a few esc's trackside I opted for the Absima revenge CTs10 from insidelineracing

cracking bit of kit, loads of options and has a set up card after seeing onboard set ups on the LRP counting flasshes and colours etc... id just get confursed.

Im really happy and know a few guys who run it so plenty of advise trackside to help with setup. gone from middle of B finals to lower half of A finals with it. just getting to grips with the power increase then hopefully turn it up and do even better

Thanks for all your replies and input. Really appreciated

Rick-J 10-08-2015 07:15 PM

Got me thinking in my 2wd I have an old speed passion lpf with a 6:5 t motor. Would upgrading to one of the mentioned esc's like the vampire or abisma etc make any difference or just a waist of money?

Stickygeko 10-08-2015 07:47 PM

it should do
 
Im no pro rick the pros can probably give a more professional response, but when I had my SP it didnt really give me much in the way of setttings... you wouldnt believe how customizable the one i picked up is. Gives me more control all round


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