New carpet
 

The carpets looking a bit wore out now i think .

It's not so grippy and has a few holes hear and there .

Time to buy some new ?

Yes it's looking a bit worn and Beaten for sure

Think Dex said it was about 2k a roll. Who's loaded?

look at buying secondhand or some cheaper alternative

Or we all take sewing lessons

What about astro? I would imagine it would be a little expensive also.. Some clubs do run indoor astro tho so must be do able

Astro
 

That sounds good , can you get light weight astro ?

Be dam expensive .

I priced Astro for my garden and the really cheap stuff which is quite naff but would be ok to race on is around £10 per square meter

6mm astro on eBay 4mtr wide/ 12mtr long £192, reckon you would need 4 rolls to cover floor ish, so about £800 !!!!!!

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...obalID=EBAY-GB

Astro
 

That's not bad .

It's need to be the right kind to race on. There's astro, and there's astro.

Personally, I don't mind the slippery carpet .... bear in mind at Silverstone club on astro, it's possibly a new set of tyres per race night.

Astro would be good

Astro is light weight, it's just when you put the sand in obviously you wouldn't put the sand in for indoor use,

As Chris said it has to be the right stuff, Silverstone and I think southport indoors use astro, maybe someone could contact them if it's serious idea

I don't think £800 is too bad, as mentioned new carpet or even 2nd hand would be a lot more or around the same price. Depends what sort of situation the club is with £££s but it would make the club pretty unique.

As for tyre wear, I haven't raced for a while but I don't get much more than one meet out of a set on the carpet we have now

Something to be thought about I guess

Its one set of rears per night at the moment at seaham. for me anyway

The benefit of our unique slippery carpet, is it allows a 13.5 motor to be competitive and get 5 meeting out of a set of minipin tyres.

I can see that others using bigger motors have higher tyre wear, but you dont need the big motor to be competitive.
High bite astro will mean you need bigger motors, and bigger tyre wear.

Just my thoughts.

Bring back the slippy floor with bits of carpet here and there! :thumbsup:

A think the Astro would be good and if it's grippy as heck tires would wear faster but they would also still work ok even when the tread is quite low. It's a case of trying to get rid of grip instead of trying to get more grip on the buggy.

An idea may be buy one roll use it with the carpet will give varied surface and if it's good the rest can be bought saves buying the full lot and worrying if it's no good

I deffo like the idea of Astro though

if every one was using 13.5 surly it wouldn't matter what surface we was on, I'm abit out of touch but is they many use 13.5 @ the club?


probably not a bad idea, maybe try and get some samples to have a look at

There was a post about carpet used for large areas and of cuts

carpet/ astro
 

we use 4 metre wide rolls of astro at southport, it is 30 mtrs long and very heavy. best bet is to look for 3mtr width but it will still take 4 people to lift it. try asking on the 12th section section about carpet they will be able to direct you to a good sauce, we got some 2 mtr. carpet several years ago and it was cheaper (and lighter) than astro. Asfor tyre wear we found Schumacher yellow blocks lasted best and gave good grip on astro indoors, especially when used with our stock class 10.5 motors. let us know how you get on.

hi Derek, thankyou for your reply, i think maybe 2nd hand carpet would be the best/ideal option, just out of interest do you have any links/cost/type as where southport got there astro from?

I would have 3 concerns with astro.

1. The weight of the rolls, when a 3x12m is rolled its bloody heavy !!!!!
2. Would need to be rolled and put away perfectly as any creases wouldn't come out like the carpet does
3. How would we secure the joins, duct tape certainly wouldn't stick it together like the carpet sticks

Astro indoors would be unique and a great surface to race on but in my opinion it would only be suitable for a permanent track venue where track was put out and left out, I think carpet is more suited to our needs

Just my opinion as one of the same 5 or 6 people who actually build the track week in and week out !!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe we are looking at this the wrong way regarding the carpet, another idea is to run Schumacher venoms as a standard club tyre surely they would last longer..??

I bought some venoms and they are shit, zero grip like been on ice

Carpet
 

Maybe we are .

Let's have a 10.5 heat with blue spikes on like Chris does .

Id be up for that

Works for me I have a 10.5 in the 2wd anyway

make everyone run the same tyre on a club night....something chunky like blocks, this us one of the reasons i dont go very often ( tyre wear) costs to much......use something thats going to last......do like the idea of different surfaces as well

Tires
 

I think a controlled tire and motor size sounds good .

10.5 in 2WD, tires ?

Not sure about 4WD .

That means every one would have to buy a 10.5 if you have not got one

So the only advantage would be drive ability .

That's me f--ked .

Yes your correct.....:p:p:p:p:p:p:p

See for sale section
 

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I think only a motor limit would achieve what you are after .... As then any tyres work with low wear rate, and you are able to use the tyres from elsewhere ... Regionals etc.

But I would advise against any restrictions. If you don't want high wear, just use a slower motor .... Like I do with a 13.5 ... The tyres last forever. But just make it a personal choice ... As. Making it a rule discourages people coming to the club. Visiting drivers or new drivers will be put off. It's one reason I never went to tynemet. It would also mean we couldn't try out our cars for prepping for other meetings.

Its ideal for me to run 13.5 sv2 most of the time, and then being able to check my kf with 6.5 is working OK. And the lap times are usually identical.

There's nothing wrong with the current carpet. It's simple. If you don't want tyre wear. Run a 13.5 . works for me, and trust me .... It's just as quick on lap times.

well put mate, my 13.5 is on order :thumbsup:

13.5 for me, however I think people should be allowed to run what they choose, restrictions can put people off. If a 13.5 is as quick over a lap then running a faster motor is no advantage. there is no need to have a motor restriction, run what you like if you can afford the tyre wear,

Couldn't agree more, this was my worry that it would split into two classes diluting the racing between 2 or more classes.

[/QUOTE] There's nothing wrong with the current carpet[/QUOTE]

Have to disagree a little here, it is very low grip, if someone has new tyres they is quiet an advantage against worn tyres, higher grip carpet would maybe make the tyres more competitive throughout there life (I don't know that tho ) it's at the point where you could put 2 pairs of new rears on a club night!!!

The carpet is also very tatty, a lot of holes patched up with tape, if the club has money is this not something we could think about? Tyres with 13.5 would possibly last even longer

I think Chris is correct, if you want to use a higher motor that's should be your choice and you accept higher tyre wear, I personally use a 10.5 with a little boost and it's just as quick around the track as a 6.5 and quicker through the turns due to less torque and easier to drive ...... As for the carpet it's as grippy as you want it to be in my opinion, if you want high grip use new tyres or adjust your driving style as the grip gets less due to worn tyres, it's like all kinds of Motorsport if you have funds a plenty available to you and can afford new tyres every night you will have an advantage over someone who runs a slightly tighter budget, I personally feel putting restrictions on what people can and can't run will take the fun away and make the night too strict, where do we go next ????, stop people racing who only has 4wd because they have an advantage over 2wd, I think we have a club that's very relaxed and that everyone enjoys the banter and the competition of chasing the faster more experienced guys

As we all know many clubs find it hard to get the numbers to keep the clubs running successfully and we at seaham are very lucky to have the numbers and new racers joining regularly, let's not scare people away with rules, after all it's a club night not a competition so let's all just have fun and enjoy our hobby

But at the end of the day I will follow whatever rules are enforced by the club !!!! 🚗🚗🚗

Benfield has quite new carpet and the tyre wear is twice as bad a seaham, if the grip is low be easy on your thumb and loosen your slipper lol

Carpet
 

Ok , forget about the motor / tyre restriction .

The carpet has seen better days and we've got the money to up grade .

I think it will be a good move .

Let's have a vote .

Thumbs up for new

Thumbs down if you a square

I'm a thumbs up.

Think that's where I am really, but I don't want to see any restrictions putting anyone else off

I'm a thumbs up👍

If we're being all grown up and doing the democracy thing I suppose I will go ????????

:thumbsup:

^^^ not for grip or the damage it has because it works and does the job perfectly, so this thumbs up is just stop the fluff wrapping my drivertrain up and destroying my wheel bearings lol

But either way I'm not fussed lol