2wd buggy advice
 

Hi guys,
I'm looking to purchase my first 2wd buggy, new or secondhand I'm not fussed. However I can really only afford to buy one buggy. From your experiences, can you tell me what would be suitable to run on grass, astro, indoors on carpet with some polished floors. Obviously indoors outdoors all weather. A big ask I know but your thoughts would be appreciated before I take the plunge.
Thanks in advance.

Lots of advice on here...look through the threads..particularly 3 weeks ago..."what off road buggy to buy"..

My advice would be all year round outdoor be a Yokomo BMax 2. The Yokomo is very good indoors and would be good indoor on multi surface. If you are racing on carpet indoor then the Schumacher KF would be hard to beat but the choice is yours

I'll second the vote for yoke bmax2 as a great all rounder. Easy to drive, work on etc.

Never driven on carpet, but I'm told the team c tm2 or schumacher kf are great for that surface but not really that good on others.

But, as I said in past thread, find your local club and see what is used there as having the best car with no help is much worse than having an average car that you can get loads of advice for

Are you after a roller or rtr?

Definitely don't discount the Kyosho RB6 either.

Best advice is to drive as many as you can and buy what suits you personally and what you can get help and support with for setups etc.

Always happy to help with Kyosho setup advice and can give you a very neutral yet still quick setup that a lot of less experienced drivers seem to love.

Check out the for sale section on the forum. I've brought stuff off here a few times now and its saved me so much money !

I'd go for the TLR 22 2.0, mine has proved strong and reliable and with good spares back up it has to be worth considering.

The kit also comes with two sets of wheels which is always handy and enough parts to build it in mid or rear motor format.

If you mean for the RB6, could you direct me to this?

Thanks:thumbsup::thumbsup:

Definately a roller..

The local tracks in my area are, outdoor grass and an indoor carpet/polished floor around 50/50. So really it's just a cost effective car that I can run on all surfaces with little adjustments for setup.

Have you looked at the b5m. The quality is great and its very adjustable setup wise. Parts are cheap and very easy to get hold of and if you take their last model into account it was still going strong after 10 years.

I have the b5m and it has great traction even in low grip. Also is not as sensitive to tyre wear than other buggies I have owned so your tyres will last longer.

As I said in other thread about "which 2wd buggy" if you ask 3 people you'll get 3 different answers. Everyone has their favourites, so, visit the club, see what others run and go with that :thumbsup:

This sport follows fashions all the time.

Whats trendy today next week is out of date.

For my 2 cents worth I would look ( if this is your first car ) at an Associated B4 based car as they have been around for years, have a huge spares backup, are still very competitive and easy to drive and set up. also the prices for second hand are very good.
Rollers on e-bay can go for around £40 as opposed to over £200 for the latest fashion kit.

The RB6 has run extremely well on both these surfaces. I have setups I can give you for both.
Let me know if you're still interested in the car.
http://www.oople.com/forums/showthre...ghlight=kyosho

If he drives a Losi then he will say Losi, Associated man will say that and it goes on like that on the forums!!!
The correct advice is see what people are running at your local club or lets say where you will be racing the most.
As much as I can give you all the advice on Kyosho cars, the best for you if you are at a beginner stage is to go with what you will be able to get help with at your local racers. When you advance to a higher level (if you are not there already) then there is only one make most manufacturers try to copy and that is, Kyosho
All the best

Kyasho maybe in 1/8th but I think the main winning car in 1/10 is the durango and I ain't been biest either just because I drive a awesome dex210 witch is very easy to set up and is copyed for it's capability of been able to have it either mid or rear motor, but because that's the car make I always I see winning with Craig collinson and up and coming team driver jack hirst at Reginals .... So who's kyosho again? ... The best advice tho is go your local club and see what's been run and then you can get plenty of advice while in the learning stages then go from there, you'll either stick with what u get or move onto something els it's everyone owns preference, I got the 210 because a rtr was and still is only £160 and it comes with a great set up n motor esc combo to get started with too ;)

As Tony says, and has been proven, these threads usually get the "buy what I have" comment as people want to reaffirm their own choices.

Best advice is go to your local club and see what is used and what is supported.

However

What I would say is that for maximum flexibility consider the drive train of the buggy you want. 2WD come in 3 main flavours with different benefits

Rear motor - Motor hangs out the rear of the buggy behind the rear wheels. Traditional buggy best in low grip such as clay, dirt, wet grass. Best known examples Associated B4 and B5 but also Schumacher SVR, Losi 22 (convertible), Durango 210 (convertible) and Kyosho RB6 (convertible).

Mid motor - Not really middle but just inside the wheelbase in front of the rear wheels. Better all rounder but less rear traction than a rear motor making up fro that with better steering and higher corner speeds. Main contenders are Associated B5M, Losi 22 (convertible), Durango 210 (convertible), Kyosho RB6 (convertible), XFactory X6 cubed (conversion to a B4), Yokomo BMAX2 and Schumacher SV2.

Front Motor - Sometimes referred to as "cheater cars" these started as conversions to 4WD cars so the motor is much further forward as it was in the 4WD configuration. They drive like a 4WD with excellent front end, massive speed in corners but do work best in high grip. Most cars are conversions like the DB01 and 2 on a Kyosho, DB Max on Yokomo and the X6-S on the X6 cubed but Team C and Schumacher have bought out dedicated cars such as the KF and TM2. I would not choose a cheater car for slippy but for mid to high grip they are doing very well in competition. I have one and it suits me very well as I find it easy to drive as well.

Also bear in mind that the benefit of a car being convertible is not worth much as it is quite a big rebuild to convert them from one to the other. I don't know anyone who swaps them over routinely.

The best thing to do is get the vehicle you like and what you think will be easier to work on.I run a TLR 22 2.0 and while it's a great car i wish i had got the associated b5m or the Tamiya TRF201XMW

Take the plunge!
 

As many have already said, three different people will give three different makes as being better than any other.
What nobody seems to have mentioned is that far more is down to driver ability and the way the car is set up, than any difference between makes.
Make a choice, stick with it and learn to set the car up. Only when you've reached that stage should you consider changing. This hobby is certainly fashion driven..!

As people have already said just pop down to your local club and see what everyone else is running and ask to maybe have ago. When I first started racing at my local club 3 years ago it was mainly associated cars being used so that's what I got and it stuck, hence why I suggested the b5m.

Possibly the most sensible post of the year on oOple!!

Slight variation on the "see what people are running at your local club" theme.

Go to the club, speak to your friends and try as many of their cars, as they'll allow.

Once you find a friend with a car you like, make sure they are happy to share their knowledge on settings and setup.

Go buy the same car as them, and enjoy.

Then, you'll learn in weeks, what some people haven't learnt yet, and they've spent years. You'll have fun, and be racing wheel to wheel with your friends.

Most racers don't mind competition, and help you get to their level of knowledge. They are addicted to racing, not lapping.

I will give a more general opinion:

Buy what car you can afford and get spares for locally.
I was always advised to get a competition kit over a rtr or toy from a toy shop as they are more robust and better engineered.

In this case you cannot really go wrong with the following makes/models

Associated B4/B5/B5M
Durango DEX210
Losi 22 2.0
Team C TM2
Schumacher Cougar SV2, KF etc etc
Xfactory X6 squared/cubed/S
Kyosho RB5/6
Yokomo BMAX 2

All these companies make excellent, strong and reliable cars. Some of thm have been doing it for 30+ years too.

I have driven an X6 squared, B4, and Losi 22 1.0 but the best car was th x6 by far as it was so strong, easy to drive and jumps nicely and good over the bumps.

I have just swapped from a SV2 to a B5M and the difference is unbelievable, always loved my sv2 but the B5m is a different car all together, it gets my vote.

Excellent advice for me on here. Thank you everyone with your comments.

The best thing to do is get the vehicle you like and what you think will be easier to work on.I run a TLR 22 2.0 and while it's a great car i wish i had got the associated b5m or the Tamiya TRF201XMW

DarkHawk why do u wish u had bought the b5m??