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johnboy 15-07-2014 09:26 PM

B44.3 breaks cover
 
http://www.teamassociated.com/cars_a.../Factory_Team/

alex97 15-07-2014 09:31 PM

I wonder how much that will cost.

RDG 40 15-07-2014 09:50 PM

Nice revisions defo on shopping list

Wonder if its imperial or metric?

sime46 15-07-2014 09:51 PM

3 diffs. Cool. New fashion. :thumbsup:

clemo 15-07-2014 09:53 PM

b44.3
 
A couple of arms and probably a leg:D

Noob 15-07-2014 09:53 PM

I expected a bigger facelift but will still give it a go as they have addressed what looks like the top modifications made to the b44.2

Its displaying b44.2 parts so looks imperiel.

RDG 40 15-07-2014 09:53 PM

Seems to have some bits off previous models too which will be a plus!!

K-Brewer 15-07-2014 10:11 PM

Says the gear diff are backwards compatable with the ball diffs so looks like you can upgrade your 44.2

neallewis 15-07-2014 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RDG 40 (Post 866714)
Nice revisions defo on shopping list

Wonder if its imperial or metric?

it's imperial (i've been told)

I guess maybe the new V2 BB shocks as on the B5 are metric?

Hofvander 15-07-2014 10:43 PM

Waited a long time for this? It does not match my B5`s. Going with HB instead.

gazhillAE 15-07-2014 11:01 PM

Looks alot like the bmax 4 III in a few ways
Looks ace

Richard Lowe 15-07-2014 11:10 PM

B44.D413?! :lol:

corkyjohnson75 16-07-2014 05:26 AM

B44.3
 
Looks like they have stuck with the same shitty wishbones and front brace , thought they would of beefed them up a bit like the B5 .

Origineelreclamebord 16-07-2014 05:56 AM

If so much stuff from the 44.2 is (backwards) compatible, don't expect the 44.3 to be metric. A bit disappointing perhaps, but I guess that means AE think simply a metric B44 won't be good enough for their customers :) Do keep in mind: Even these extensive updates to the platform are much cheaper than releasing a new one, so it's better to properly think through what it should be like before releasing it - if not you'll be losing customers to bad design choices or construction flaws, not to mention you have to invest in updates to fix the problems.

Lee24h 16-07-2014 05:58 AM

Shut up take my money :)

RobW 16-07-2014 06:14 AM

Well it is definitely a .3 rather than a completely new car but the alloy chassis and geared diffs in the kit are obviously a plus point for many when they are comparing to other brands.

My view will depend a bit where they try and price it. B44s have always been pitched at the lower end of the spectrum compared to say yokomo and kyosho and I always felt you were buying a product that had its slight issues such as still being imperial and slightly suspect build quality in a couple of areas but it was a bit cheaper so you could forgive it.

If they try and launch these at £400 then I think they are going to struggle.

I like it.

Rob

Big G 16-07-2014 06:58 AM

imperial screws aren't an 'issue'...

Quote:

Originally Posted by corkyjohnson75 (Post 866753)
Looks like they have stuck with the same shitty wishbones and front brace , thought they would of beefed them up a bit like the B5 .

Stop driving into solid objects :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by neallewis (Post 866732)
it's imperial (i've been told)

I guess maybe the new V2 BB shocks as on the B5 are metric?

The V1 big bores were also metric from the B44.2 :)

Hofvander 16-07-2014 07:05 AM

Apparently they have improved the strength of the wishbones by adding material. No new part number but a running change.
It is not as beefed up as a B5 and it still have thin shock towers so I am not worried about my driving but I am about others.

AfroP 16-07-2014 07:17 AM

geared diffs and a central diff

seems all they have done is take the D413 and the Bmax4 III and whack as many features from those on to the existing platform

Origineelreclamebord 16-07-2014 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AfroP (Post 866764)
geared diffs and a central diff

seems all they have done is take the D413 and the Bmax4 III and whack as many features from those on to the existing platform

That's completely true, but is this really the first time this industry has seen such shameless copying? :lol: Plus, tbh the D413 and BMAX 4-III still have their own unique points about them, I'd say the B44.3 is not likely to steal current customers from Yokomo or HB but instead reduce the amount of B44 drivers switching to brands like Yokomo or HB for another year or so.

AfroP 16-07-2014 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origineelreclamebord (Post 866766)
That's completely true, but is this really the first time this industry has seen such shameless copying? :lol: Plus, tbh the D413 and BMAX 4-III still have their own unique points about them, I'd say the B44.3 is not likely to steal current customers from Yokomo or HB but instead reduce the amount of B44 drivers switching to brands like Yokomo or HB for another year or so.

good point well made

RobW 16-07-2014 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big G (Post 866761)
imperial screws aren't an 'issue'...

Many issues (as in concerns) are dependent on the individual’s viewpoint so whilst your view is it is not an issue that may not be the case for all potential customers. For some people subjects such as abortion, GM food or animal testing are issues which they will campaign for or against strongly. Others do not care but it does not mean it is not an issue for those that do.

So back to the B44.3 and for some racers who race multiple cars they would prefer to carry one set of tools and with the majority of other cars on the market being metric this may be an issue for them that could sway their decision (amongst a whole load of other factors) to buy the car or not. I appreciate it would have added to the price of the car to change it to over to metric and as this is an evolution of a car not a completely new one staying with imperial has probably allowed them to keep some element of cross over of parts from the B44.2.



Still like it:)


Rob

Lee24h 16-07-2014 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origineelreclamebord (Post 866766)
That's completely true, but is this really the first time this industry has seen such shameless copying? :lol: Plus, tbh the D413 and BMAX 4-III still have their own unique points about them, I'd say the B44.3 is not likely to steal current customers from Yokomo or HB but instead reduce the amount of B44 drivers switching to brands like Yokomo or HB for another year or so.

Its going the way of touring cars

Noob 16-07-2014 11:02 AM

its not a new 4wd model just an upgrade really so metric screws will be on the whole new b44 whenever that's out, I would of liked to have it metric as im sure all b44 owners have suffered one or two stripped heads at least.

discothesnake 16-07-2014 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Origineelreclamebord (Post 866766)
That's completely true, but is this really the first time this industry has seen such shameless copying? :lol: Plus, tbh the D413 and BMAX 4-III still have their own unique points about them, I'd say the B44.3 is not likely to steal current customers from Yokomo or HB but instead reduce the amount of B44 drivers switching to brands like Yokomo or HB for another year or so.

Totally agree but they had to move fast to get in on the act. I think it looks good.

They are starting to look the same as are the 2wd's regardless of the platform.

Team C seemed to have started the trend and everyone is jumping on the shorty bandwagon.

Only Xray and Schumacher left to follow.

KRob 16-07-2014 11:46 AM

Retail price:

£339.99

Only information on release so far is sometime in September

The Chef 22-07-2014 09:04 PM

A real disappointment for me I was hoping for a B45 or B54 or whatever its a shame that they haven't gone metric and come up with a new platform. The B5 is a fab platform and the AE fleet now seems like its becoming disjointed.

How long before we see a completly new car?

cutting42 23-07-2014 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Chef (Post 867851)
A real disappointment for me I was hoping for a B45 or B54 or whatever its a shame that they haven't gone metric and come up with a new platform. The B5 is a fab platform and the AE fleet now seems like its becoming disjointed.

How long before we see a completly new car?

Worth listening to the web cast I posted on another thread to get the AE design engineer of the B44.3 thoughts on these topics.

Without being specific he intimated would seem to be 18 months away at best.

alex97 23-07-2014 09:32 AM

Most shops are selling these at £304, that's the same price as the b44.2. For the money I think you get a lot more compared to previous models that sold well. I can see this selling alright as the spec of this car are the same as the car that won the worlds and all the other big races. That's not bad for a 7 year old car with some upgrades!

Darren Boyle 23-07-2014 01:09 PM

RRP has only risen by £10, but then an alloy chassis and geared diffs will be no more expesive (possibly even cheaper) to manufacturer than the older carbon chassis and ball diffs.

That said, it does make the last remaining B44.2 kits look great value at just £239.95 now with £11 worth of extra FREE wheels too...

gazhillAE 23-07-2014 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutting42 (Post 867875)
Worth listening to the web cast I posted on another thread to get the AE design engineer of the B44.3 thoughts on these topics.

Without being specific he intimated would seem to be 18 months away at best.

Definetly well said !
It should shut a few people up who like complaining! :thumbdown:

panch 23-07-2014 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Lowe (Post 866744)
B44.D413?! :lol:

Its flattery Rich :thumbsup:

Hog 24-07-2014 07:37 AM

Will the B44.3 gear diffs fit in my B44.2? I've heard conflicting reports that's all.

K-Brewer 24-07-2014 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog (Post 868071)
Will the B44.3 gear diffs fit in my B44.2? I've heard conflicting reports that's all.

From what I've heard and read they will fit mate

Hog 24-07-2014 12:31 PM

Cool - now where to lay my hands on some.........

alan p 29-07-2014 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Brewer (Post 868075)
From what I've heard and read they will fit mate

So that means they will fit B44.1 ??

K-Brewer 29-07-2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alan p (Post 868795)
So that means they will fit B44.1 ??

i dont see why not as the diffs and housing's are all the same so i'll go out on a limb an say yes they will

im sure someone will correct me though if im wrong

alex97 29-07-2014 01:09 PM

Both the b44.2 and b44.3 use the same diff case so the geared diff must fit. I don't think the centre diff will fit due to the new motor mount design.

K-Brewer 29-07-2014 01:23 PM

your right the center diff needs the new motor mount

gazhillAE 31-07-2014 12:11 PM

Would be good to see a PDF manual soon


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