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Andywoods 06-05-2014 11:25 AM

What spur gear and pads in tm2?
 
Hi just wondering what spur gear is best in tm2 ? Thank you

Muzzie 06-05-2014 12:46 PM

http://insidelineracing.co.uk/new-pr...-tooth-details

This one :thumbsup:

rossiracer 06-05-2014 12:53 PM

spur
 
I use a rw racing spur 85 t with ae pads or the Durango ones

leelar 06-05-2014 01:32 PM

will a tm4 spur fit the tm2 v1 :confused:

AmiSMB 06-05-2014 02:39 PM

The TM4 takes a different spur (80T and very thin) to the TM2 V1 so it will not fit. RW do very good 85T machined spur gears which take the AE/Durango pads as has previously been said and they work really well. The also make the same spur that will take the original pads as well.

leelar 06-05-2014 03:05 PM

thanks i have an rw i just wanted to try a smaller spur gear for when i run a 10.5

AmiSMB 06-05-2014 03:46 PM

I am sure if you get into contact with RW they would be able to sort you out with a different size spur for your 10.5.

Clive Loynes 06-05-2014 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leelar (Post 855938)
thanks i have an rw i just wanted to try a smaller spur gear for when i run a 10.5


I run a 76t Hobao spur and pads on my CT02C. I think that it is very good but I had to machine the bore to fit a 5mm i.d. ballrace as it starts off at 6mm bore.

rossiracer 06-05-2014 06:55 PM

spur
 
I run the rw 85t spur with a 21t pinion with my 10.5 with a bit of timing and turbo and it is ace as fast as people with lower turn motors

Kusal 06-05-2014 07:02 PM

I run a RW spur gear of 80t with Rcshox slipper pads, a 10.5 with 26 as pinion and a lot of timing and turbo, very manageable in the infield and as fast as the rest on the straight (they are running 7.5 and 8.5). Astroturf in Kampenhout, Belgium.

Clive Loynes 06-05-2014 07:07 PM

Leelar has to run in Blinky mode.

Not sure if motor timing is allowed either.

welshmerlin 07-05-2014 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kusal (Post 855985)
I run a RW spur gear of 80t with Rcshox slipper pads, a 10.5 with 26 as pinion and a lot of timing and turbo, very manageable in the infield and as fast as the rest on the straight (they are running 7.5 and 8.5). Astroturf in Kampenhout, Belgium.

With the RCShox slipper we have to set the spring tension tension to minimum and would like slightly less. Do you have the same problem?

Northy 07-05-2014 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welshmerlin (Post 856100)
With the RCShox slipper we have to set the spring tension tension to minimum and would like slightly less. Do you have the same problem?

Are you serious? With AE pads in mine I have to have the spring nearly coil bound! :o

G

welshmerlin 07-05-2014 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Northy (Post 856103)
Are you serious? With AE pads in mine I have to have the spring nearly coil bound! :o

G

Not tried AE however we find that both Team C and Durango pads need a lot of spring tension.

Kusal 07-05-2014 06:37 PM

That is the strange thing about it.
Did you pre compress the slipper spring a few times?
In my TM2, I have one complete turn with the Rcshox pads, in my T4 I have to put no tension at all!
If you have to put too much tension on the slipper pads, try the following. The slipper axle is in my opinion 0,5 mm too long at the side opposite of the slipper nut. When you put the gold washer without the bearing on the axle, you will see that the little pin is not fully engaged against the gold washer. Schorten the axle by 0,5 mm, golden washer and bearing on it, a small 0,5 mm washer and then the screw (otherwise it does not tighten fully) and then you can put a bit more spring tension on.

welshmerlin 07-05-2014 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kusal (Post 856183)
That is the strange thing about it.
Did you pre compress the slipper spring a few times?
In my TM2, I have one complete turn with the Rcshox pads, in my T4 I have to put no tension at all!
If you have to put too much tension on the slipper pads, try the following. The slipper axle is in my opinion 0,5 mm too long at the side opposite of the slipper nut. When you put the gold washer without the bearing on the axle, you will see that the little pin is not fully engaged against the gold washer. Schorten the axle by 0,5 mm, golden washer and bearing on it, a small 0,5 mm washer and then the screw (otherwise it does not tighten fully) and then you can put a bit more spring tension on.

Thanks Kusal. I forgot about compressing the spring. Had to do that with our TC02C too :woot:

Clive Loynes 08-05-2014 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by welshmerlin (Post 856216)
Thanks Kusal. I forgot about compressing the spring. Had to do that with our TC02C too :woot:


I still prefer my softer spring. It is less sensitive.

spiboom85 15-07-2015 12:36 AM

Rc shox slipper pads
 
Hi I no this is a old thread but iv had some trouble with my slipper, iv burnt out 3 spur gears due to slipping to much while on track

I run the rw the the high torque associated pads and I also have to fully load the spring to stop the slipping. I give it just less that half a turn back and its just right,

Are these rcshox pads thicker ? Also did you oder the Durango ones or associated,
And also where can these be purchased.

Karting 15-07-2015 06:36 AM

I used to burn out the slipper all the time. Turns out my Slipper nut was backing off all the time. Loctited the nut and problem solved

Chalkie 15-07-2015 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiboom85 (Post 918869)
Hi I no this is a old thread but iv had some trouble with my slipper, iv burnt out 3 spur gears due to slipping to much while on track

I run the rw the the high torque associated pads and I also have to fully load the spring to stop the slipping. I give it just less that half a turn back and its just right,

Are these rcshox pads thicker ? Also did you oder the Durango ones or associated,
And also where can these be purchased.

The High torque Associated pads seem to have a lot of slip, I'm running Durango pads in mine which seem a lot better

spiboom85 15-07-2015 03:53 PM

Hi are you using just the standard Durango pads ?

I was looking at the tm4 upgrade but its costly about £86

Chalkie 15-07-2015 07:34 PM

Just standard Durango pads, but I've also used Schumacher pads without problems. The A.E high torque pads just don't seem to have enough bite to use in our slipper.
The standard slipper works fine when you've got the right combination of parts in it.

Oh and it's also worth checking that the pads are protruding past the spur gear other wise the slipper plates sit against the spur rather than the pads.

spiboom85 15-07-2015 07:47 PM

im using the rw spur gear an 83 with the associated high torque pads but as said above I still have to tighten it up full lock to grip

my mate has the same slipper set up but his only needs get half way and its perfect :confused:

Chalkie 15-07-2015 09:36 PM

Sounds like the slipper plates are touching the spur, if the pads don't sit proud of the spur the edge of the plates sits on it instead, I know people have turned the plates down on a lathe so they can fit inside the pad recess and can't touch to avoid this. You mate may have slightly thicker pads or a spur with a shallower recess which is why he isn't having this problem.

welshmerlin 15-07-2015 09:59 PM

Our experience is: -

AE - terrible
Durango - good
Schumacher - good
Team C - very good
RcShox - excellent but kill slipper plates

For the last 6 months we have used Team C Pads with the RW Spur with no problems. It's important to clean the slipper assembly now and again to keep the slipper plates moving freely.

spiboom85 17-07-2015 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welshmerlin (Post 918975)
Our experience is: -

AE - terrible
Durango - good
Schumacher - good
Team C - very good
RcShox - excellent but kill slipper plates

For the last 6 months we have used Team C Pads with the RW Spur with no problems. It's important to clean the slipper assembly now and again to keep the slipper plates moving freely.

Hi Thanks for the reply, where do you get the rcshox pads from ? I cant seem find them in the uk

:(

welshmerlin 17-07-2015 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiboom85 (Post 919104)
Hi Thanks for the reply, where do you get the rcshox pads from ? I cant seem find them in the uk

:(

The European agent is EuroRC: -

http://www.eurorc.com/product/3771/r...--durango--xb4

Be prepared to replace your slipper plates every 6 months :woot:

spiboom85 18-07-2015 06:58 AM

Well last night rw set up again burnt out spur gear after 5 laps in, fitted standard team c spur and standard pads

Got 14 laps then a first in final so did 28 laps and still working

When you say you use a rw spur with tram c pads do the do that shape of pad

Thanks ateve

Chalkie 18-07-2015 08:58 AM

If you want to use team c pads with the RW spur there's two options, RW sell a spur which takes the standard pads or you can get the TM4 pads which are the standard octagon shape.

welshmerlin 18-07-2015 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiboom85 (Post 919182)
Well last night rw set up again burnt out spur gear after 5 laps in, fitted standard team c spur and standard pads

Got 14 laps then a first in final so did 28 laps and still working

When you say you use a rw spur with tram c pads do the do that shape of pad

Thanks ateve

RW Spurs don't normally fail. Are the 2 large bearings either side of the slipper assembly OK?

spiboom85 19-07-2015 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welshmerlin (Post 919254)
RW Spurs don't normally fail. Are the 2 large bearings either side of the slipper assembly OK?

hi yes bearings all good/ ran at bury today 5 rounds plus a final with no problems on the standard spur and pads :confused:

welshmerlin 20-07-2015 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spiboom85 (Post 919344)
hi yes bearings all good/ ran at bury today 5 rounds plus a final with no problems on the standard spur and pads :confused:

Good to hear :thumbsup:

We tried all makes and ended up back with the Team C pads which are very consistent. Just make sure the plates move freely with the pins in place. The black Team C spurs are OK. The RW spurs are normally very tough.


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