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pb1 11-10-2008 01:46 PM

Who's ordered a b max4
 
Quick question

Whos ordered the b-max 4 champ version. Only problem no lipo version seems to be a over look by yokomo. Or will there be an upgrade for it.

DaveG28 11-10-2008 03:22 PM

Got one at home waiting to be built, pretty sure trakpower 3200 Lipo will go in!?

tjf 11-10-2008 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveG28 (Post 167841)
Got one at home waiting to be built, pretty sure trakpower 3200 Lipo will go in!?


I'm gonna get mine when I know a 3200 fits could you let us know :thumbsup:

pb1 11-10-2008 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjf (Post 167842)
I'm gonna get mine when I know a 3200 fits could you let us know :thumbsup:


I have one on order also have five packs of trakpower 3200's hope they fit.

I Wonder if Diggity Designs will make a conversion. for the larger lipo cells like the do for the b44

sosidge 11-10-2008 04:00 PM

Now called me an old fashioned grinch but I just don't understand this obsession with putting LiPo saddles in cars.

Yokomo built the car around the weight distribution with NiMHs. The car won the Euros and the other meetings it has won with NiMHs. The slots are the exact size of NiMHs.

Yet all people want to do is hack the car about to put a LiPo in!

OK, so they are easier to use - but they completely mess up the weight distribution. I've seen a few rear-saddle cars running LiPos and half of them handle like utter dogs compared to the NiMH cars. Even if you are very clever with your ballast, you will still struggle to match the weight distribution the Yokomo engineers spent months deciding on.

It astonishes me that a couple of years ago people were getting worked up about how the Yokomo BX cells were moved a few mm compared to another car, yet people are now removing 150-200gms from the rear of the car without a thought!

And why are you ordering FIVE Lipos? From what I understand one pack, two at most is enough for a whole race meeting, because you can top them up right after use and get similar performance, unlike NiMHs which need cooling time, so unless you are running five different cars each day, five packs seems like a massive waste of money.

If you want a LiPo car, get the CAT. It is the only car on the market that has been designed for it - but even I don't know whether the weight distribution is the same as the NiMH version (I think it is a lot closer than any rear saddle car would be though).

Grumble over.

DaveG28 11-10-2008 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sosidge (Post 167847)
Now called me an old fashioned grinch but I just don't understand this obsession with putting LiPo saddles in cars.

Yokomo built the car around the weight distribution with NiMHs. The car won the Euros and the other meetings it has won with NiMHs. The slots are the exact size of NiMHs.

Yet all people want to do is hack the car about to put a LiPo in!

OK, so they are easier to use - but they completely mess up the weight distribution. I've seen a few rear-saddle cars running LiPos and half of them handle like utter dogs compared to the NiMH cars. Even if you are very clever with your ballast, you will still struggle to match the weight distribution the Yokomo engineers spent months deciding on.

It astonishes me that a couple of years ago people were getting worked up about how the Yokomo BX cells were moved a few mm compared to another car, yet people are now removing 150-200gms from the rear of the car without a thought!

And why are you ordering FIVE Lipos? From what I understand one pack, two at most is enough for a whole race meeting, because you can top them up right after use and get similar performance, unlike NiMHs which need cooling time, so unless you are running five different cars each day, five packs seems like a massive waste of money.

If you want a LiPo car, get the CAT. It is the only car on the market that has been designed for it - but even I don't know whether the weight distribution is the same as the NiMH version (I think it is a lot closer than any rear saddle car would be though).

Grumble over.

Chill out fella! All you do is add the weight back to the cells with lead underneath and your back in the ballpark! I am mystified by needing 5 packs!!

MHeadling 11-10-2008 05:32 PM

Iv got one coming from CML, will build it and see what it goes like compared to my 501, if it goes well it will stay if not then it will be for sale!

bigred5765 11-10-2008 05:35 PM

i was just gona say why would you need 5 packs, when everyone using them is saying fit one and forget about it, just top it up,
hell i even heard someone glue one pack in, lol Q the pm,

Spoolio 11-10-2008 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 167879)
...hell i even heard someone glue one pack in, lol Q the pm,

Gosh, that must be a bloody big lipo charging sack he has then :lol:.

Seriously, the weight thing is getting to be a ball-ache. My Durga handles like crap with a 3200 lipo in it as its half the weight of a pack of nimh cells. If lipo is "the future" (like garlic bread), why can't manufacturers get on board eh?

tjf 11-10-2008 09:27 PM

Are they available to buy now?

YZ~10 11-10-2008 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by tjf (Post 167928)
Are they available to buy now?

Yes see here... http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/cml...tId=0000003600

:thumbsup:

Darren Boyle 11-10-2008 10:16 PM

No, they are due in soon, not yet here

bigred5765 11-10-2008 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spoolio (Post 167912)
Gosh, that must be a bloody big lipo charging sack he has then :lol:.

If lipo is "the future" (like garlic bread), why can't manufacturers get on board eh?

lipo sacks are for girls,:p

DaveG28 12-10-2008 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tjf (Post 167842)
I'm gonna get mine when I know a 3200 fits could you let us know :thumbsup:

Got mine mainly built tonight (except suspension), and 3200 saddles definitely fit, won't need any lipo locators or anything either as the car comes with foam pads that work to hold it in place. :thumbsup::thumbsup: I have used BX battery posts and carbon straps and they fit fine.

Only thing to be careful of is this, as per other cars I can see height being an issue on the bodyshell where the connectors stick out of the battery, I think it'll need horizontally soldered wires to the bullet connectors, the cells only fit in with the connectors to the outside so vertical soldered wires will foul the shell I am guessing!

Dave

pb1 12-10-2008 02:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveG28 (Post 167968)
Got mine mainly built tonight (except suspension), and 3200 saddles definitely fit, won't need any lipo locators or anything either as the car comes with foam pads that work to hold it in place. :thumbsup::thumbsup: I have used BX battery posts and carbon straps and they fit fine.

Only thing to be careful of is this, as per other cars I can see height being an issue on the bodyshell where the connectors stick out of the battery, I think it'll need horizontally soldered wires to the bullet connectors, the cells only fit in with the connectors to the outside so vertical soldered wires will foul the shell I am guessing!

Dave

That's good news. Do you think the bigger trakpower saddles would fit as well. I run the larger cells in my b44 with the Diggity Designs conversion

DaveG28 12-10-2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pb1 (Post 167969)
That's good news. Do you think the bigger trakpower saddles would fit as well. I run the larger cells in my b44 with the Diggity Designs conversion

Wouldn't be able to tell without having a pack to hand sorry, if your at Worksop feel free to try it there?

Can't see them going in though, may fit under the topdeck or to the side of it, but I think there'd be no way of wiring it up under the bodyshell!

Spoolio 12-10-2008 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigred5765 (Post 167957)
lipo sacks are for girls,:p

I know you're saying that tongue-in-cheek but seriously, at Worksop lipo sacks are The Law.

bigred5765 12-10-2008 06:16 PM

if you use lipo that's just fine, and rules are rules, just like the no mac e dees.

Lee 12-10-2008 06:45 PM

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Spoolio 12-10-2008 07:50 PM

Wicked :woot:

big smithy 13-10-2008 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spoolio (Post 167912)
Gosh, that must be a bloody big lipo charging sack he has then :lol:.

Seriously, the weight thing is getting to be a ball-ache. My Durga handles like crap with a 3200 lipo in it as its half the weight of a pack of nimh cells. If lipo is "the future" (like garlic bread), why can't manufacturers get on board eh?

watz the cat sx lipo mines ace :p

MHeadling 13-10-2008 12:14 PM

info from CMLs website, should be here this month!

http://www.cmldistribution.co.uk/cml...leryImage=16#G

Spoolio 13-10-2008 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by big smithy (Post 168266)
watz the cat sx lipo mines ace :p

Yeah, OK smartarse, apart from Schumacher then (I can't afford their prices anyway).

MHeadling 16-10-2008 10:04 AM

I spoke to Jase at Cml yesterday and they are still 2-3 weeks away! I want my one now!

DaveG28 16-10-2008 12:27 PM

I've got mine, import, and planning to run it a bit at Worksop Sunday, your not missing much yet though Mark, there's no spares at all anywhere yet, so I'm only running till the first thing breaks!

MHeadling 16-10-2008 04:09 PM

Yes take it easy Dave, let us know how you find it! i think its going to be a good un! also good news Tom Yardy is on board so there will be lots of set up info from him and cragg for the UK tracks.

Adi 16-10-2008 09:05 PM

hy

do you mean these parts? ;)

http://www.eseller.ch/images/product...ages/901_0.jpg

DaveG28 17-10-2008 12:42 AM

They've arrived???

I think you'll be getting an order from me soon Adi!! Shame its too late for this weekend!

For those who've run it with BX shocks, how did you set them up, I've had a devil of a time getting the car low enough?

Its not a lightweight by the way, even with 3200 sadle Lipo its nearly 100g overweight without any ballast!! Still trying to decide whether to add some anyway for better balance.

Dave

albertobdq 17-10-2008 07:55 PM

Only some parts are already available, not the whole package. I've been talking with rc champ and they are asking Yokomo every 2-3 days for them.

DaveG28 22-10-2008 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Headling (Post 169300)
Yes take it easy Dave, let us know how you find it! i think its going to be a good un! also good news Tom Yardy is on board so there will be lots of set up info from him and cragg for the UK tracks.

Ran the car in the final qulifying round at Worksop Sunday, and suffice to say set my best time of the day with it on it's first run, better than I managed with the BX Worlds all day!! Got 17th in round too, which trust me for me is very good!!

Still some setup work to do on it but the major plusses immediately were that it jumps very very well, and it felt very easy to get a good rythmn compared to other cars I've run!

Overall, :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:, especially considering the only thing none standard about it was having Bx shocks on!!

jasonrcb 22-10-2008 07:05 PM

dave whats the build like on the car just checked my tracking and mine will be with me tomorrow :thumbsup:

DaveG28 22-10-2008 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonrcb (Post 170923)
dave whats the build like on the car just checked my tracking and mine will be with me tomorrow :thumbsup:

Nice and easy, the diffs and driveshafts are all prebuilt :thumbsup:

Everything else went together well and quickly, really was the easiest I have ever done!

jasonrcb 22-10-2008 07:15 PM

what a bonus as im not the best at getting a diff right im looking forward to it arriving even more now

MHeadling 29-10-2008 05:10 PM

I was at MK Racing today,Marc tells me that the B max are in at CML :thumbsup: should not be long to go!

Let me know when you guys get your UK ones.

A.J. Gee 30-10-2008 02:23 AM

I have. Cant wait to get it. Does anyone know if Yokomo will provide hop ups for the B max?

nyheli 30-10-2008 05:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A.J. Gee (Post 173498)
I have. Cant wait to get it. Does anyone know if Yokomo will provide hop ups for the B max?

shocks for upgrading is needed,my friend tested it with D4's shocks yesterday.:D
http://f5.wretch.yimg.com/hadam/20/1009685480.jpg

MHeadling 30-10-2008 04:06 PM

Iv just spoke to CML, the kits came in yesterday and are shipping out as we speak! I hope to get my mitts on my one tomorrow! :thumbsup:

showtime 30-10-2008 07:07 PM

yeah i heard MK will have kits tomorrow :)

MHeadling 30-10-2008 08:21 PM

So are you getting one Show Time?

pb1 30-10-2008 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark Headling (Post 173694)
So are you getting one Show Time?

I have one on order so fingers crossed Only problem back to work on nights so will not get to build it till wednesday


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