Looking for a punchy quick brushless set up
 

As above , anyone recc a good make reliable , punchy but adjustable .
What ones are out there or just pick Lrp, tekin ,novak , or losi as are they all pretty much the same?

The advantage with Tekin is that you can update the software directly from the website. It will also carry on running in sensorless mode if the lead should fail or hall sensors get damaged/wet. Its also probably the smallest Brushless speedo available!

The new range of Redline motors are also excellent!

Any idea when will we see the RS Pro Tekin systems commercially available? I'd quite like one of them :)

The advantage of a Novak is you don't need to bother updating it ;)

i like my nosram but mates run the losi and its good and fully updatable and for £120 with motor bloody good value

The Losi one is fantastic, plus you can plug it straight into the card to adjust the setup, or a laptop with a bit of software. For £120 it's awesome! :thumbsup:

http://www.horizonhobby.co.uk/autoon...l_10Bless.html

They dont say "blue is better" for no reason do they :thumbsup:

Do they? Mine blew up....:cry:

but if ya could ya would ;)

another vote for the tekin rs pro here. has already saved me a run when it was in the wet as i finished when very few others did and there was a rather large puddle around my speedo when i took the shell off so a big thumbs up from me

Go LRP!!! :thumbsup:

I love these fan-boy threads :D

My stuff is better than your stuff etc:lol:

I heard somewhere that LRP and Nosram actually have a different number off FETS (LRP have more) is this true :confused:

no idea about the Nosram/LRP thing.

I am just as guilty of fan-boying LRP as much as everyone does for their own sponsors, but all I can say is that I ran LRP speedo's long before I was sponsored by them, and I have been running Factory for LRP since 2000 and at no point have I ever wanted or needed to change.

saying that 'they are all the same' is not strictly true, they are pretty different, right from the price, product and after sales support.

as im not sponsored by either of them i guess im not biased but out of the 2 i would say Novak :woot::thumbsup:
purely because i had 2 LRP's last year and they both went Poof !!!!!!!!
2 Novaks this year and never had a problem with either :)

Orange is better :woot::woot:

will you wear a bright orange shirt? :thumbsup: :lol:

I suppose they get updated every time they get fixed.... good point :D

I was just happy to get in there before you for a change:lol: :)

Lmao, this thread is turning into a bitch fest :D

The speedos are available now, contact the raceplace. Motors will be available over here soon

omg, like such a whore lrp is like soooo the best

I am sponsored by any of the major brands either, dirven the LRP for the last 3yrs no problems at all. Also driven the Tekin, can't say I noticed any differance. Also use to use the Novak when I was brushed, and again excellent...

So to summarise, I think its all down to personal preferance...

Doesn't size relate to technology ????
I know with mobile phones they get smaller!!!

Why would anyone go for the Orange square box, Or the Blue/Red slab when you can go for the neat and tidy, fits in any car Tekin:lol:
:thumbsup::D

But hey this is all opinions.... Tekin all the way.

The future maybe bright but it's not Orange.
Blue is the Same as Red, Defo not better.

Tekin is unique.....

Just thought i would get involved in the biggest debate on WWW at this moment!!

A lot of it does come down to personal preference, but they are all expensive compared to the Losi ;) :p

DMS are £114.99 with a motor, can't see any other manufacturer even getting close to that.

But as most of the people who have given opinions here are sponsored by a speedo manufacturer it's all going to be bias, isn't it?

I am not sponsered by anybody this is my opinion I have run the LRP Novak and the Losi this year. The LRP was changing programs on its own and going into reverse realy anoying I now have the losi in the 2wd and novak in the 4wd and I am thinking of selling the novak and getting the Losi for the 4wd.

Cheers for the comments chaps , i am looking at a few but as funds (wife ) are strictly controlled ill be looking into them all, it seems that the lrp, losi units are decent along with tekin and novak oh the choice.
What about nosram.

I am not sponsored by any manufacturer but I currently have and run 2 LRP TC Sphere and one Nosram ISTC speedcontrollers and are very happy with them since I changes from LRP X11 motors to Peak and Orion motors. I have to admit I do like the idea of the hybrid mode of the Tekin as I think it could be a life saver if the sensors fail for whatever reason as it can fall back to sensorless. I have seen speedcontrollers that tend to puff smoke when they loose sensors not to mention the fact that the car it uncontrollable when the sensors cannot be detected. I am looking forward to adding a Tekin to my armoury very soon.

Nosram is LRP just rebadged.

Yup same factory just some goes through the Red door and some go through the Blue door on the way to the store.

losi esc
 

i have the losi esc in my rbt5 and it's great any changs that you need to do just use the laptop job done .

no sponsorship here either, but i've run LRP and Speed Passion (GT and GT LPF).

Sorry blue-fans, but I'd pick the Speed Passion any day.

I have seen more LRP fail than I can count. But maybe that's just me personally, LRP made great brushed stuff, I just think their brushless isn't too good at all.

In terms of what is best, the Tekin systems are. None of the other systems come close in terms of specs. Especially the Tekin "Pro" stuff, the R1 Pro and RS Pro have double the power boards of the standard R1 and RS, this brings the FET count to an insane 48. Novak have 18 FETs, whereas LRP/Nosram, Losi, Speed Passion have 24. If I recall, the Mamba systems are around 32, although perhaps not really classed as racing escs, and the sidewinder at 12 FETs.

Of course FET count is not everything, and FET quality is very important. However Tekin use really top notch FETs on a very thermodynamic/thermoconductive PCB system and built in a better way - hence they do not need a heatsink or fan. Anyone seen the size of the things too? They are tiny!

I am using an R1 Pro to power an 8th scale buggy too, as many other people have already done. I would like to see some of the competition do that without thermaling. I am a fan? Yes of course. But what is wrong with that? If Tekin went crap I would just become a fan of a better company. I doubt that will happen in a long long time though.

With all that said, they are a little expensive though. The Losi systems do the job well enough and for less money. I think both offer the same relative value. I think most the systems are okay really, with the exception of LRP. So you pays your money and you takes your choice!

Just to play Devils Advocate, all the quickest guys at our club run LRP, Nosram and Novak. We have about 60 regular club members. Since my return to the hobby 12 months ago, ive seen one Nosram and one Novak GTB blow but thats it

I have a Nosram Matrix Evo ( B4 ), LRP 2007 TC Spec ( TC :blush: ) and a Novak GTB ( B44 ). If im honest i cant tell any difference between them performance wise. Ive never had a problem with any of them either.

If the Nosram Matrix Evo is good enough for Neil Cragg to win the Euro`s with, then its certainly good enough for any club racer :thumbsup:

Glypo../ Anyone..

Interesting comment above, not knowing enough about the technical side of this I would never had considered the number of fets, I have used a GTB for the last two seasons and have not a problem with it for the record..

My brother bought a Tekin R1 with the 5 turn motor (537 i think its called)as a package as it seemed a great value "5 Turn" and had been given good reviews for the money.

What we have found though is that his "5 Turn" is no where near as quick overall as my 5.5 Novak system in the same car running the same setup and gearing..??

The system spec as below says that the Tekin R1 has a 5 Turn limit, does this mean that I could effectively put my Novak or similar 5.5 motor onto his speedo without issue ?? (I appreciate that with the Novak I couldnt use the sensor wire).

Or is the Turn limit thing just a myth and should I really be trying to find out what KV the speedo will take up to and then compare to similar motors..? I would say that his R1 5 Turn package to me feels more like a 10.5.

Controls: Forward/Brake/Reverse
ON Resistance: 0.0001 Ohms brushed fwd mode, 0.0003 Ohms brushless mode, 0.0003 Ohms brushed fwd/rev mode
Input Voltage: 4-9 Cells, 3S Lipo
BEC: 6.0V/3.0A
Motor Limit Brushless Mode: 5 Turn, 36mm can
Motor Limit Brushed Fwd Only Mode: None
Motor Limit Brushed Fwd/Rev Mode: 12 Turn
Throttle Profiles: 7 choices (on board)
Brushed Modes: Fwd Only, Fwd/Rev, Rev Delay
Brushless Modes: Fwd Only, Fwd/Rev, Rev Delay
Dimensions: 1.3 x 1.00" x .45" (33 x 25.4 x 11.5mm)
Weight: 2.0oz with included 12G wiring

Just found this..

Redline 537 - 5T = 3,700 kV

So my brothers motor is only 3700KV..pity we didnt know that before we bought it..just saw the 5 Turns mark.. I cant seem to find anywhere that shows what KV the speedo will take upto or what amps it takes etc.. anyone know this info..?

It is for the record very smooth and a great little set up :thumbsup:

Any help on this would be great as he is now considering selling to change to a Novak like mine to be more competative..

Cheers

Lee

I was always a fan of Tekin back in the old days, but went for the LRP this time round. Will see what happens with my servo issue I have at the moment and whether it comes down to an LRP Sphere issue.