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qatmix 29-01-2014 09:15 AM

Tamiya TRF503 announced with picture
 
http://www.thercracer.com/2014/01/42...announced.html

Looks like a nice evolution of the 511 :)

Also the new 2WD should be announced as well

kaylon 29-01-2014 12:51 PM

I'm getting addicted to Tamiya again :)

K

jph 29-01-2014 01:05 PM

Thanks for the heads-up Qatmix, I wonder how long it will be before these new kits are available to buy?

Really looking forward to seeing the new 2wd :-)

Fredrik Emilsson 29-01-2014 01:39 PM

501X arms front, WO driveshafts and BB etc. Looking good!

DaveG28 29-01-2014 01:53 PM

Oh Tamiya Tamiya, why do you do this to me, releasing such a sexy piece of kit after I've finally gone elsewhere!

Only Tamiya would announce all new off-road race cars just AFTER ditching their off-road team :o

qatmix 29-01-2014 01:59 PM

I know, however it looks great (added a few more details)

I think I know what I want for my birthday this year :) .. or maybe the tractor ;)

DaveG28 29-01-2014 02:27 PM

It does look great, I am very conflicted haha! I guess we are looking at a spring release date which is just as we stop all 10th scale for the summer round here :(

guinness 29-01-2014 02:37 PM

would be nice a new tfr201

Origineelreclamebord 29-01-2014 02:46 PM

I'm quite surprised to see this release - like many of us probably. I must say it's spec is not highly surprising, but that is a good thing, they're building on a highly rated belt-drive platform - as far as I know anyway! :) Also, they seem to go from one extreme to another: Until now we're modding and hopping up Tamiya's, and this car has got an impressive spec and even a brass weight kit included!? :o

Based on the spec sheet I don't see a big item they should have done differently on the car...and to be honest with Tamiya's recent non-TRF releases and weird decisions on the TRF-front it's become a bit unpredictable what they'll have in store! :lol:

By the way, some more pictures:
http://tamiyablog.com/wp-content/upl...g_2014-164.jpg
http://tamiyablog.com/wp-content/upl...g_2014-152.jpg

Funny to see in the text in the first picture (on the left) they say 355mm wheelbase... I suppose that should be it's total length? :lol:

Dyna 29-01-2014 03:40 PM

Interesting to see thay have gone for an aluminium lower chassis plus metal centre pulleys as well.... Seems just about everyone is going for metal lower chassis these days - bandwagon anyone ?

I cant see that the 'new' 2wd will be radically different either, maybe just using up all the stock of the 201 parts with the XR & XM conversion kits into a all-in-one box ?

Origineelreclamebord 29-01-2014 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dyna (Post 833944)
Seems just about everyone is going for metal lower chassis these days - bandwagon anyone ?

It's not surprising. With power and battery life no concerns anymore for 5 minute heats, cars don't have to be as light as possible. In fact a heavy car is a lot more stable over bumps and jumps, so weight can be a very good thing.

Aluminium chassis plates are an easy and cheap way to achieve that extra weight low down on the sprung mass of the car. Besides, aluminium chassis plates (when not elaborately machined with slots and stuff) should prove to be cheaper than carbon plates. A small benefit might also be that an aluminium plate can better dissipate heat than a carbon one. And last but not least, I think you'll find the 'usual' chassis plate alloys (6061-T6 and 7075-T6) to be stiffer and more durable than most carbon fibre in the RC industry (which often contains relatively few layers of carbon for it's thickness, reducing stiffness and strength).

Jamesk 29-01-2014 04:30 PM

Well i will buy one and retire the 502.2 i have. I like the idea of a metal lower plate,if its simular to to XM on the 201 it will bring better handling.

Even thou i doubt it will be any cheaper just because of the chassis materials have changed.

jK

Dyna 29-01-2014 04:46 PM

Oh i agree that a car doesnt have to be as light as possible these days, but the extra weight of a milled ally chassis ( which this new 503 is ) verses a carbon one will be very minimal.

Cost of a milled & anodized ally chassis over a straight carbon one ? Again minimal - in fact the carbon ones would probably be cheaper.

Heat dissipation, well possibly it might help a tad, but i cant remember ever having problems with over hot motors anyway in a carbon chassis - in my 501x & DB01r they run quite cool - just have good ventilation and a motor heatsink :)

Stiffness.... hmmmm again maybe, but a) does the TRF 4wd platform NEED to be any stiffer ? The 501x and 511 are already very stiff... And b) not so sure about being more durable in the real world. Ok the ally chassis might not break or shatter like a carbon one would do so you might be able to finish the race you are in, but if you have hit something that hard it will definitly be bent or at the very least tweaked. And thats my main bug-bear with ally chassis in general. Once they are tweaked its impossible to get the car set up again properly. It might not be broken in half like a carbon one, but its then got to be replaced anyway.

Better handling being ally instead of carbon ? Maybe, but you would have to do back-to-back tests to confirm or deny that one and on different tracks. Marc Rheinard might be able to tell them apart, but im a very average driver so i very much doubt i would notice the difference on a double-decked 4wd chassis tbh !

Anyways enough of that as it doesnt really matter - it looks to be a very nice car & its a TRF so im sure we will all buy it no matter what its made of :D

I just hope its not too expensive and spares back up is decent...

SiR_Dave 29-01-2014 08:45 PM

About Damn Time Tamiya :drool::drool:

Fredrik Emilsson 29-01-2014 08:52 PM

Looks like db01 front arms (soft trf501x ones), dn01 rear arms. XV01 rear hubs. New WO driveshafts. No more lost pins...

marco NL 29-01-2014 09:14 PM

more pics here
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
http://tamiyablog.com/2014/01/tamiya...3-chassis-kit/

Kimo 29-01-2014 10:15 PM

Looks pretty awesome to be honest... :o

discothesnake 29-01-2014 10:33 PM

Very nice although a bit surprised to see them continue to use 10mm hexes on front and pins on rear. Everyone else seems to be going 12mm hex all round.

Typical Tamiya tho, looks stunning.

Aussie Top Force 30-01-2014 12:19 AM

Very nice! Why not include a new body, which would be the cheapest part!. Not sure that it'll tempt out of the 502X though. Open belts on dusty tracks?? The new Losi 22-4 has an enclosed system for similar spec. So the 503 will need to be keenly priced and well supported.

Mmmmm....the 201XM and Egress 2013 have left some big dents in the racing budget of late!

Additional: a close look at the Parts tree shows (bottom third of image) nice blue 12mm hex's near the new universal joints:
http://tamiyablog.com/wp-content/upl...g_2014-163.jpg

SiR_Dave 30-01-2014 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by discothesnake (Post 834085)
Very nice although a bit surprised to see them continue to use 10mm hexes on front and pins on rear. Everyone else seems to be going 12mm hex all round.

Typical Tamiya tho, looks stunning.

Id you look a some of pictures that has the prototype chassis.. you will see 12mm clamping hexes for the rear ...:D... also there is a way to run 12mm ones on the front as well... and only have a 1.5mm wider front track :p

SiR_Dave 01-02-2014 04:59 PM

Anymore news... pic's ect ect... possible release date:bored::eh?::drool:

MHeadling 01-02-2014 06:14 PM

From what I'v read about it, March release date, price will be around $550-600

Lots of pics on tamiyablog, area52.cc and various other sites

Jamesk 01-02-2014 07:02 PM

£ 360 sounds about right for a TRF kit. Expensive but think I'll have one.

Jk

Aussie Top Force 02-02-2014 12:39 AM

What are the 511 gear diffs like for those that have used them? Are they low maintenance and what improvement to handling do they offer over ball diffs?

SiR_Dave 02-02-2014 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MHeadling (Post 834761)
From what I'v read about it, March release date, price will be around $550-600

Really:wub:wub

MHeadling 02-02-2014 08:34 AM

511 gear diffs are pretty good, the stock plastic bevel gears are prone to stripping if not shimmed up but the TA06 steel bevel gears fit in the 511 diffs then they are pretty bomb proof

They are cheap too, new on eBay from HK about £12

fastinfastout 02-02-2014 08:53 AM

my gear diffs have leaked quite a bit though......

MHeadling 02-02-2014 08:55 AM

Forgot to mention tamiya have done a Red TRF o ring kit for the gear diffs, this sorts it

MHeadling 02-02-2014 08:58 AM

Here are the parts I used:

http://i783.photobucket.com/albums/y...ps2b9f5c6e.jpg

qatmix 02-02-2014 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastinfastout (Post 834906)
my gear diffs have leaked quite a bit though......

http://www.thercracer.com/2013/07/ho...gear-diff.html

Bomb proof, leak proof Tamiya Gear diff guide :)

taomo 02-02-2014 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MHeadling (Post 834910)

the same as I use in my trf418 :lol:

SiR_Dave 02-02-2014 08:46 PM

Good info on the diffs:drool:

qatmix 05-02-2014 09:38 AM

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/KTKioMfDBto" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Nice video here

kentech 05-02-2014 11:29 AM

Tamiya posted the TRF503 product page together with a Japan release date of March 22.

http://www.tamiya.com/japan/products/42275/index.htm

If you want the translated version of that together with more info also translated from Japanese see here:

http://kentech.blogs.se/

DG5 05-02-2014 06:53 PM

now my birthday is the 22 march :lol:

shedloads 05-02-2014 07:21 PM

503
 
Car looks good! Anyone know what shell would be used?
Mike

xfactor 05-02-2014 07:49 PM

Whatever the body used you wont want to use it. It states,

Body Price 79,000 yen :woot: wonder what its made of. You wont want to mess that body shell up with bleeds :D

SiR_Dave 06-02-2014 02:19 AM

Nice... that means we should be able to get this kit form RC Champ for about 10~15% off of Tamiya's Retail price :drool:

Roel 06-02-2014 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xfactor (Post 835927)
Whatever the body used you wont want to use it. It states,
Body Price 79,000 yen :woot: wonder what its made of. You wont want to mess that body shell up with bleeds :D

Think that's something like the price without a body, around €580 or 480 Pounds.
There is another price of 83790 Yen, €612 or 510 Pounds which might be with body?

Aussie Top Force 06-02-2014 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shedloads (Post 835918)
Car looks good! Anyone know what shell would be used?
Mike

The Proline forward cab for the 502 might be a fit, as well as the original 511 body. Not sure if there is a proline phantom body available yet? Rhiehard was using it at the Reedy RoC:

http://events.redrc.net/wp-content/g...9527-copia.jpg

Look at the car not the girl!:lol:


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