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woOdy 11-09-2008 08:11 PM

Winter Regionals?
 
Could someone let me know who to speak to about holding a Winter Regional for you guys.

The race controller 11-09-2008 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by woOdy (Post 158805)
Could someone let me know who to speak to about holding a Winter Regional for you guys.

Eric

Cockerill 11-09-2008 08:35 PM

Assuming you mean North-East (as it's in this section), I'd say PM Northy

woOdy 11-09-2008 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Cockerill (Post 158811)
Assuming you mean North-East (as it's in this section), I'd say PM Northy

Thanks mate.

burgie 11-09-2008 09:06 PM

so bury is now a North East club?

mattym0310 11-09-2008 09:15 PM

bury is a member of which ever region it wants to be, thats if the region wants to include them in the championship.

please dont start another one of these big debates about it. lol :)

Jez 11-09-2008 09:28 PM

bury indoors
 
how soon before we start racing at your new venue?did you try calling me?any email returned from you know who?thanks jez.

burgie 12-09-2008 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mattym0310 (Post 158830)
bury is a member of which ever region it wants to be, thats if the region wants to include them in the championship.

please dont start another one of these big debates about it. lol :)

no-ones starting another debate - i was asking for clarification about the situation

Northy 12-09-2008 07:58 AM

A club can run in any region or regions they want to if that region is happy to give them an event :thumbsup:

G

Lee 12-09-2008 08:20 AM

G, has there been any talk of regionals etc, i know your a busy boy, im not asking for dates i was just wondering if they will happen?

Northy 12-09-2008 08:27 AM

They will happen dude :thumbsup:

G

pugs 12-09-2008 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Northy (Post 158953)
A club can run in any region or regions they want to if that region is happy to give them an event :thumbsup:

G

And why not? the more clubs involved in the regionals the better, more rounds, more racing!!!

chris68nufc 12-09-2008 05:39 PM

I know that the North East of England will be applying for 2 Indoor Regionals so we will have 2 to go to. Maybe some people will think its too far to travel tho. Diesel is still expensive.

pugs 12-09-2008 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chris68nufc (Post 159127)
I know that the North East of England will be applying for 2 Indoor Regionals so we will have 2 to go to. Maybe some people will think its too far to travel tho. Diesel is still expensive.


yeh, I agree chris some people would not book in for the rounds that are too far away for them, but some would and would be willing to travel, at least if there is more rounds you have the choice:)

cmgreen 29-09-2008 04:41 PM

Does any one know if where going to be allowed to run LIPO's??? We really need to support the usage of them!!

If not i think attendance will be down.

chris68nufc 29-09-2008 07:36 PM

After speaking to a few top drivers from the North East Region at Worksop, im pretty sure that this years indoor Regionals will not be very well attended by low Formula grade drivers. I really dont see the point of doing indoor Regionals if there arent many top drivers there. Whats the point of making the A final if the standard isnt very good? I can accept that if the BRCA doesnt allow Li-po cells for indoor series due to safety grounds then fair enough. At Worksop recently i used Li-po and charged them in my Li-po sack without any problems. I hope for the good of the north east region that Li-po will be allowed. Dont think they will tho!!

Chequered Flag Racing 30-09-2008 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by chris68nufc (Post 164073)
I can accept that if the BRCA doesnt allow Li-po cells for indoor series due to safety grounds then fair enough.

We've had Ni-Mh cells exploding indoors so what's the difference :confused: or is it that there not BRCA approve yet?

Recent BRCA 12th National had a Ni-Mh let go indoors and they haven't banned them, yet.

Lee 30-09-2008 01:52 PM

They are not approved for brca events and and the regionals are brca events.

Sorry boys ;)

mark christopher 30-09-2008 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing (Post 164283)
We've had Ni-Mh cells exploding indoors so what's the difference :confused: or is it that there not BRCA approve yet?

Recent BRCA 12th National had a Ni-Mh let go indoors and they haven't banned them, yet.

what cell type was it (make)

Chequered Flag Racing 30-09-2008 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 164287)
what cell type was it (make)

Don't know

wacattack 02-10-2008 11:46 PM

How come there seems to be a stance for "top driver" to be staying away from the indoor series this year?

chris68nufc 03-10-2008 06:35 PM

Something to do with the cells they are wanting to use, may not be allowed in the indoor series. Im sure they are more than happy to do all rounds of a certain indoor series that allows the use of these cells. Not fact but just what i think.;)

dave p hall 04-10-2008 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by chris68nufc (Post 165383)
Something to do with the cells they are wanting to use, may not be allowed in the indoor series. Im sure they are more than happy to do all rounds of a certain indoor series that allows the use of these cells. Not fact but just what i think.;)

i think i know which serie's you mean:lol:i was there last sunday:thumbsup:it was ace,so may not bother with regional's either:eh?:i just can't beleive lipo's are not allowed as of now,there uesd in every day consumer electrical good's for heaven's sake.they don't even bother charging with lipo sack's:woot:

chrispattinson 06-10-2008 08:05 AM

I'm sure we don't want the regionals to be poorly attended though, otherwise it may not warrant hosting them??? Then if there's no regionals, it will mean you need to attend the Worksop series for winter racing, which could get expensive.
I was adding up the cost:

1 round of Worksop:
2 sets tyres £30
Hotel room £50
Fuel £30
Booking in fee £10
Food and drink £40
Without any breakages or little impulse buys from the models shop it's £160 per round x 6 rounds = £720

Plus 4 indoor regionals (fuel + tyres+entry+entry fees) £180
Plus finals (£100)

Thats getting on for £1300 for winter racing. Madness for toy car racing!

Adam Skelding 06-10-2008 09:33 AM

I don't think the regionals have been that poorly attended, at least our region puts on indoor regionals. Other regions don't.

As for wacattacks comment on top drivers not attending, if you're referring to Worksop. Most were at the 1/8th rallycross at Pendle, a re-scheduled round. You have to remember a lot of the top 10th guys now either do 1/8th aswell or have moved across to 1/8th totally.

As for costing going to race meetings, i'd still do the North East meetings as they are the best run and best attended. I only stopped in 1 hotel on my trips up North to the Scotland border for this years regionals. Early Sat/Sun mornings and the A1 return a nice 55mpg which beats youth hostel prices hands down.

chris68nufc 06-10-2008 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chrispattinson (Post 165914)
I'm sure we don't want the regionals to be poorly attended though, otherwise it may not warrant hosting them??? Then if there's no regionals, it will mean you need to attend the Worksop series for winter racing, which could get expensive.
I was adding up the cost:

1 round of Worksop:
2 sets tyres £30
Hotel room £50
Fuel £30
Booking in fee £10
Food and drink £40
Without any breakages or little impulse buys from the models shop it's £160 per round x 6 rounds = £720

Plus 4 indoor regionals (fuel + tyres+entry+entry fees) £180
Plus finals (£100)

Thats getting on for £1300 for winter racing. Madness for toy car racing!

Bloody typical of you that Chris. If my wife sees that im done for. By the way. You dont need 2 sets of tyres for Worksop and the hotel was only £20 each. You have been booked in for the next round so deal with it.

N7ELA 07-10-2008 10:15 PM

I understand chrissy p's point totally. If the top drivers use 3 sets of tyres in 1 meeting then most other people will follow suit. If they use 2 sets then everyone else will use 2 etc. I cant see any benefit in using Lipos yet... And Im not sure about Lipo's being used in every day consumer electrical goods. Lithium ion batteries are commonly used but not lithium polimers which explode...

Everyone with lipos should watch this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3o_2mwRPdw

If anybodies lipos blew up like that they could seriously harm someone....

Lee 07-10-2008 10:28 PM

Who uses 2 sets of tyres indoors?

i used ones from the indoor finals and they were fine. if anyone used 2 sets of tyres they either get them free or are loaded :)

N7ELA 07-10-2008 10:35 PM

Have you raced worksop before? This year in the indoor nationals some of the A finalists used 3 sets of tyres before their finals. I used 2 sets of mini pins and was about 2 laps down. Worksop is a horrible surface...

Mike Hudson 07-10-2008 10:40 PM

I believe Lee made the B-Main at the first round of worksop! Minipins work really well when they are worn in alot of cases and less edgey than brand spankers

RcRob 07-10-2008 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by N7ELA (Post 166635)
Have you raced worksop before? This year in the indoor nationals some of the A finalists used 3 sets of tyres before their finals. I used 2 sets of mini pins and was about 2 laps down. Worksop is a horrible surface...


You need more talent, not tires :thumbsup:

N7ELA 07-10-2008 10:48 PM

ouch.....

Fabs 08-10-2008 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N7ELA (Post 166635)
Have you raced worksop before? This year in the indoor nationals some of the A finalists used 3 sets of tyres before their finals. I used 2 sets of mini pins and was about 2 laps down. Worksop is a horrible surface...


Then they need to get a life because used tyres work better there than brand new tyres, i can garantee your result wasn't down to the tyres. Last year I made most A's there and used two sets for the whole series.

Fabs 08-10-2008 12:29 PM

well i'd be disappointed not to see any regionals this winter that's all i have to say.

Lee 08-10-2008 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by N7ELA (Post 166635)
Have you raced worksop before? This year in the indoor nationals some of the A finalists used 3 sets of tyres before their finals. I used 2 sets of mini pins and was about 2 laps down. Worksop is a horrible surface...


I used tyres from the indoor finals actually so they already had 5 runs on them, plus a club night at york and then a full day at worksop. I actually went 5th in rd 1 with them and could of done the same in other rounds but my thum became unbound from my brain, in a spektrum stylee :woot:

I will probably scrub in a set in practice though at the next round as the rears are a little worn now :thumbsup:

Richard Lowe 08-10-2008 12:55 PM

You only need 1 set of tyres per round at Worksop ;)

Scrubbing the tyres on the day (practice) is what I do, I've found if you use a set that are already worn (even from a week before) the rubber is slightly harder and they dont work as well as softer fresh tyres.

The indoor finals were a bit different (I used 3 sets in 4wd) as you're looking for the last few tenths, but if you run wide on a couple of corners or have a mistake mid-run, fresher rubber makes no difference.

N7ELA 08-10-2008 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Richard Lowe (Post 166785)
You only need 1 set of tyres per round at Worksop ;)

Scrubbing the tyres on the day (practice) is what I do, I've found if you use a set that are already worn (even from a week before) the rubber is slightly harder and they dont work as well as softer fresh tyres.

The indoor finals were a bit different (I used 3 sets in 4wd) as you're looking for the last few tenths, but if you run wide on a couple of corners or have a mistake mid-run, fresher rubber makes no difference.


And thats my original point proved... :)

Richard Lowe 08-10-2008 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by N7ELA (Post 166794)
And thats my original point proved... :)

Not quite ;)

What I'm saying is new rubber makes such little difference, it might be 1 or 2 seconds over a whole run - not 2 laps. It also depends on how much carpet there is, if it was 100% floor you'd want baldies as once the dust is off the line after round 1 or so slicks work well :)

N7ELA 08-10-2008 02:36 PM

The point i was trying to get across was that the top drivers set a trend using several sets of tyres which encourages slower drivers to do the same. And waste money.

I'm not trying to blame my poor driving on tyres. That was down to worksops nightlife...

I simply meant that my brand new mini pins were crap after 3 races and the fact that i was 2 laps down means they should have lasted longer...

Lee 08-10-2008 02:40 PM

I disagree, i noticed no difference in lap times as my tyres wore, if anything the car got easier to drive, it was less aggressive on the carpet and more grip on the rubber as the track cleaned up :confused:


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