Kyosho Ultima
 

Hi, I'm new to this forum, I have some questions about my old kyosho ultima. I am wondering where I can get some wheels and tires that fit it? I googled it and came up with mixed results. Thanks, I am trying to restore it so that it runs again, it was my first car, its pretty thrashed, I have ca'd the cracks in the body, tho there are some chunks missing, and I painted the outside, so it looks a lot better then it use to, a new one is a lot of money. I will probably get a trinity monster motor and a cheap esc to power it, but it will probably do a lot of shelf time as I can't really find parts for it, only a few from kyosho. Thanks for your help, I have been lingering around for a few days and this forum seems pretty active and really cool.
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that was the first 'new' car I ever bought!!! sweet :woot:

Hi Ace028,

I work for Kyosho UK, I don't spend a lot of time on forums but I just spotted your thread. We can see if Kyosho hold any stock for you. It's an old car, so don't hold your breath, but I have a few shops in the North that have old Kyosho spares and worth a phone callif we can't get new parts for you.

Regards
Karl Marsden
Kyosho UK

Hey, thanks, I live in the US. I thrashed on this car, I was like 7 when I got it, now I wish I would have been a little nicer to it. It would be fun to drive it again. I also need the shock clamps.

A Karl. What about trying hard to get a TEAM for the UK this year?

your welcome, give the head office a shout in the US, we are here to help!

Karl Marsden
Kyosho Uk

I would love to get a new RB5, I have soo many projects and so little cash. I almost bought the lazer zx5, I wish I would have, I bought a T4 instead, intended to race where I live but its all 2wd trucks.

So they may have more parts then listed on the website?

Hi Stu,

Good to hear from you again, just typed a reply and lost the page doh!

Basically, we are builing the future now as far as I can see. The RB5 is increasing in sales all the time, and at club/regional level appears to be reported as a safe, strong and easy to drive buggy over the B4.

Unfair to comment and not too important as long as it's a good alternative for the customer.

Ground up working close with shops is the best way for Kyosho in the UK. We support shops 100%, and I would personally like to see clubs and tracks on the increase with close support from the local shops around the country.

A team will happen I am sure, but right now the market and everyone is waiting for the NEW KYOSHO INFERNO MP9 (got to plug it:thumbsup:) as this will be the first Race car to be launched from Kyosho sinse I joined.

My area is electric, so let's see what Worksop brings this winter, we are selling more RB5's all the time so I am confident we can start getting results at National level. It's winning at regional level now, and I did not expect that so soon, so one step at a time really.

Team oOple back on RB5's would be cool now we are moving forward in this area:D

Should see you at Worksop as I want to help, but you know where I am if you want to chew the fat.

Take it easy mate, and say hello to your dad for me.

Karl Marsden

The bodyshell, part number UM18, is still listed as available to order from Kyosho Europe, price is £18.10 :woot:

As an alternative there is a replica Turbo Ultima body available here

The rear axles use standard 12mm hex drives, so a lot of wheels are available from Tamiya, Academy and Kyosho that will fit on there.

The front axles are the tricky ones, with the axle being 4mm. For my Ultima I use HPI front wheel adapters that let me use 4 x 8mm wheel bearings with Tamiya front wheels that have an 11mm hole.

Alternatively to use 5mm axles get the uprights and axles from the Tower Hobbies ST-15

To fit Associated or Losi front wheels replace the front axles with Kyosho Ultima RB axles, part numbers RS26 front wheel shaft and RS3 knuckle arm, changes the axles to US size which means the wheels and US size bearings will fit straight on.

If you need any spare wishbones and Kyosho have no more, then take a look at the Tower Hobbies ST-15 parts list as it uses identical wishbones and suspension mounts.

Shock clamps are very hard to come by and the correct ones are very expensive to buy. I use a set of shock clamps from a Kyosho Raider buggy. I picked up the complete buggy for less than the price of the Ultima shock rebuild kits, and the raider clamps are a much stronger design.

Thanks for that info! It is very helpfull.

Hi
I have 3 spoke Schumacher Cougar 2000 wheels fitted to my Ultima - pretty sure that I used standard Schumacher bearings.....

Marwan in Kuwait has recently listed a repro ultima shell um-16. search classic kyosho and worldwide on eBay.com

Cougar wheels will indeed fit although the offset isn't the same - I got round this by using a plastic wheel bushing from the original kit inside to space the wheels to the outside. Schumacher also sell the bearings you will need.

Hot Bodies wheels also work on the rear and the dished ones match the Schumacher dish wheels rather nicely.

Cheers

Graeme

team blue-groove now also offers the original ultima shell.

I have an old stock one myself, but no cage. I was holding onto it awaiting if I'd ever stumble over a cheap cage, or find a buyer for the body. With the current offer on fresh replicas I guess it's back to hoping for a lucky stumble ;)

can you provide a link please?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/KYOSHO-ULTIMA-...3%3A2|294%3A30.
there you go mate!

thx!

hey guys i,m also new
 

i have a kyosho ultima thats all original with the box its super clean like new condition can any one tell me whats it worth here some pics thanks john
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So what parts would I need to buy to make the j concepts rolux wheels work wth this car? I don't care about the vintage rims, I just want to be able to purchase easy to get rims and tires. I plan to actually drive it, I think the rolux won't look bad on it. Thanks.

Also what were some of the hop ups for this car, I have seen a few items on ebay. Do you know where I might source them from.

Items I need:
New top tray
Screw Kit
Rims and tires
Bearings
Servo mount
New body
Top deck mounting hardware
Shock clamps


I don't really need all this to make it run, but they are some items that need replacement.

Theres an awesome modernised ultima for vintage racing in this thread:

http://www.rc10talk.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=6543

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Thanks for the info and the link! They are indeed some nice vintage builds. I found the repo body, but I can't find the top deck.

Send them a message through ebay, thay had one carbon fibre second hand one in last time i contacted them, they may have more now.

There are also some for sale from ebay south korea, you may have to search through ebay.com.au to find them..

I have a brand new set of original rims, brand new topdeck/ radio plate and also a brand new set of swing shafts. I will sell them if you want them:thumbsup:

I may be interested PM me your prices. I'm on a very tight budget right now. Can you post some pics. Thanks.

I found this on ebay, i'm looking to get it if it don't go too high.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...ht_1052wt_1165

Ok, here is my plan, tell me what you think.

Kyosho RB5 front axles, hub carriers/spindles ( not sure if option axles or regular)
Kyosho RB5 rear universals (proline ones to use Jconcepts rulux wheels)
Jconcepts Rulux wheels
Team Bluegroove body
Proline tires.

RB5 shocks? The original ones I have should be fine, but need some kind of shock clamps for them.

Let me know if you think these will not work. From what I can tell I think they will, I registered on rc10talk to talk to the builder on that forum.

Keep in mind that I'm not too concerned with keeping it with original rims and tires and parts, but I would like to keep it with mostly kyosho parts except the rims and tires.

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How would you fit the rulux front wheels on the RB5 front axles?
Further, nice plan but a bit in contrast with your budget statement ;)

Mr. ed
I agree that my plans are not cheap, that is why I am going to restore it slowly, in about a month I should be better with funds, I am in the military and I am in transition between bases and housing right now, that is the reason for a tight budget between paychecks and buying plane tickets to visit my family between assignments.

I think the 4wd rulux front wheels would fit the rb5 front hex axles? I may be wrong, I saw the guy on rc10 talk had used these parts and mounted hpi wheels on the front, not sure if the hexes are different sizes or what. From what I can tell I think they are 12 mm front hexes? I'm really not sure, I just had a hunch that it may work, please let me know if I am wrong.

I just did a little checking of my own since I was thinking the same thing. The B44 front wheels use a 9.5mm (3/8") hex so that's a no go. However, the Lazer ZX5 wheels would work but they may be a little wide when trying to stretch a 2wd front tire on.

you can cut the inner rib of the zx5 front wheels, or use ultima RB5 front wheels, or cut the inner rib of zx5 sp front wheels. Each option gives you different front widths.
The offset of the zx5 front wheels is a little bigger than on the zx5 rear wheels.

If you like spoke wheels, kyosho also has some. I think they are priced the same as the ZX5 wheels.
Personally I'd go for these:
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...3&I=LXNX94&P=K
and
http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...3&I=LXNX95&P=K

They're a nice match, with wide offset in the rear just like the original ultima.

PS: yes the RB5 uses 12mm hexes, hpi also, traxxas also, but the rulux ones I don't think so.

Thanks, those look like a good alternative, I will keep those in mind. Thanks. I will post pictures when I get the chance to start on the project after my move.

Thanks Amain Hobbies!!! Ordered these on OCt 29th and got them today the 31st!! My kyosho is at my dads house back in Cali, and i'm on the other side of the US, so it will be a while before I can get to try to install these, but here are some pics I took.

These parts are:
Genuine Kyosho-
UM505
UMW507
Protek RC
5x10x4mm rubber sealed bearings

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Those are purty.:thumbsup:
One of them he probably races in the vintage class.
Id like to see someone put ceramic bearings and diff balls in one for brushless use.
Since it has been the dawn of this era.

well a quick trip to the hobby store confirmed that thr rulux wheels won't work. Had I read the above posts more thoroughly I would have already have known that lol. Well it will be great to just get some wheels that I can actually easy to get tires for. I do like spoked wheels so I may get the ones Mr. Ed pointed out. Well can't wait to tear this baby down and start cleaning and sorting out what needs replacement and get her rolling.

did you get the kingpins to mount the steering knuckles in the carriers? don't see them in your pics and the original ultima ones are too thick to re-use onhere

No, I haven't gotten them yet. They were not listed in the parts that were needed in the other forum for this mod, so I am trying to find the part numbers for it and the retaining screw that holds it in. I will probably download the instruction manuel for the rb5 and look through that to find it.

Do you know if those duratrax wheels are pin drive or hex for the rear ones?

pins on the the rear and hexs on my truck and the same on the front