Mac Laptops
 

What does everyone think to them?

I think they look smart, but are they worth the money.

Oh and it needs to be a laptop, desktops are no good for me before the PC fanclub attack me :woot:

Well do you want it because it looks good or because you need the Mac OS?

I dont rate APPLE as i think it is well over priced..........

I was looking to by a new laptop yesterday and i was looking at the APPLES but i went for a TOSHIBA EQUIUM A300D - 16C

:drool:

In terms of hardware, of course not, you can get much more for your money with a "traditional" laptop.

As Southwell says, it all depends how keen you are on Mac OS (and associated software).

It's because he's a cock and has more money than he knows what to do with! :woot:

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Best OS and hardware on earth. Everything just works, doesn't crash, and is sooooo easy to use. Always backwards compatible, get cheaper every year, and upgrades are easy.

I've used Macs since 1987, and I'm on my third - they might be more expensive than a cheap PC, but you don't have to buy on very often. My SE30 was upgraded after six years because there was no Internet when it was designed. My G4 was upgraded in 2004 when I needed to go to the OS10 operating system to get iTunes, etc. for my iPod. This Powerbook G4 has had a memory upgrade this year (£100 to 2 Gig) to run Leopard and MobileMe. My iPod Touch now has mobile e-mail, thanks to taking the new Leopard system and a £6.99 piece of software.

None of my friends in the office have succeeded in making Vista work properly first time (some not at all!!) and they change hardware like underpants. Poor products, overpriced and underperforming.

You can all scoff at a Mac, but I defy anyone to have spent less than me over 20 years on computers, and yet have all the latest software and gizmos loaded - and working. :thumbsup:

I like how the little apple glows on the back when it on :drool:


But in all seriousness, i like the software, i like how quick they are and everything is so much more polished and neater than windows, i also like the photo packages they do. They are also a lot more friendly nowadays to windows style programs. i like them.


Did i mention about the little apple on the back:woot:

HI LEE,

I have one at home, bit confusing at first to a P.C but I prefer my apple. Also doesn't pick up virus' like a P.C when you are on the net. Stylish and compact too.:thumbsup:

I fancied one but to get one as powerful as my samsung R700 I'd have to spend a lot more - and since I only use the laptop for race meetings, It's simply not worth it. They do look rather nice though.

Mmm, no. Apple now use Intel hardware just like everybody else and they are pushing OS's out faster and faster that needs patching every so often too. I have 4 laptops in my house, one of them a new-ish MAC running Vista and in that form it's no better, actually a lot worse than the others.

As some people have already said, if you are keen on the MAC OS and want a bling looking laptop then go for it. My wife couldn't be bothered going through the learning curve on the MAC OS so that is why we ended up putting Vista on it. Now we like it even less, no right mouse button, no windows key, very poor battery life when running Vista, Apple webcam not compatible with Windows Messenger, etc.

On the other hand I have just bought a brand spankin new Dell XPS 1530 fully loaded for £800. Best laptop I have ever owned and I get a new laptop at least every year, sometimes twice a year (through work and otherwise) and have done for years so I've used a few. Almost as good as my new iPhone :thumbsup:

You can have my windows key! :thumbsup: I have windows keys taken off all my keyboads :woot: shocking misserable little things whos sole purpose seems to be to jump you out of a game at the height of the action.

I'll swap you for the F7 and F8 key that keeps falling of my wife's MAC keyboard! :woot:

Windows keys are Gay Fact!!

I picked one up on the way home from work and im very impressed with it, it seems very fast, everything is done in an instant.

Is it just me or can you not get the web pages to fill the screen? Probably me just being thick:blush:

Got a Macbook in December last year.

It's brilliant - I am a total Mac convert now - get one, you won't regret it!

I have enver seen the need for an Apple computer for home use, I can understand if you are into your computer artwork, but thats about it, I don't see any advantage. You rummage round the net and you find people with Macs have the same OS problems and hardware problems as with Windows.... It just costs you more money, thats all.

As for Vista, I must admit, I haven't had any issue's, had it since it came out, not re-installed it or anything, just kept the updates and the regular maintenance. I think the reason why people do upgrade hardware, is snobbery, computer snobbery, the newest thing is always better.... right??

:) some people upgrade hardware so as to be more productive. If you work in complex CAD programs, demonstrate software, etc. you can spend your life waiting for computers to do their job so that you can do yours. Having the latest and greatest fastest machine can mean the difference between selling someone on your new concept software or not.

But, as you rightly say, for most people newer hardware doesn't do much.

I am a real Vista fan too. Vista is awesome on powerful pc's laptops but it really does struggle on some older ones with less memory. If you plan on running Vista on your Mac make sure you get a lot of memory. If you plan on playing newer games on it get something better than the Macbook.

You can get it to fill width wise, but height wise it will only fill from the bottom of the top bar to the top of the dock on the bottom, hence i have mine quite small and sometimes set to auto hide.

go to 'apple/dock/turn hiding on' to get it to auto hide.

Always used Apple machines myself ever since I had to admin a network with a mix of PCs and Macs and discovered which OS needed a whole load of software installed just to stop them keeling over when they were let loose on the internet.

Still using my 5 year old Powerbook G4 and each OS upgrade has meant it runs faster each time. Yes it was more expensive than the equivalent PC laptop, I guess most of the money went into the carbon fibre chassis and titanium case - it meant it has survived being knocked off a table a few times, try doing that with the cheap ABS cased PCs.
Except you can't drag Apples newer laptops off a table, the magnetic power lead just snaps off if you catch it. It's one of those nice details that you pay a but extra for but you soon realise why they have included it and wonder why PC makers don't.

Got a Macbook Pro and the multi touch trackpad, illuminated keyboard and light sensor are features that seem a gimmick, but again you soon start to wonder why no one else has them.

You notice nice touches like it recognises a camera, printer, etc. when you plug it in without crying out for a driver disk, and it takes about 5 seconds to join a wireless network.

And you can play a DVD without needing any extra software to be bundled with the machine.:p

Did I read that right - you've bought a Mac and run Vista on it? Isn't that like buying a Ferrari F1 car, putting a GP2 engine in it, and then complaining it doesn't seem to go very well? I'm not surprised you don't like that combination...

My System updates have numbered 5 in 34 months, with 20 Security updates in that time. Since installing Leopard in January, I have had 4 software updates (each with more features, including MobileMe, not just patches) and 3 Security updates. There have been two Mac OSs since 2004, each one optional, and each one totally backwards compatible.

That you don't like Macs is fine, but next time you diss something (anything) please check your facts. :p

Yup, Macs are simply awesome. Just wish i could afford one! (Preferebly a Macbook Pro :) )

Make your mind up :p

Modern Macs are just PC's with an EFI instead of a BIOS running the Mac OS, Apple add their little bits like the multi touch pad ect but the core hardware is nothing different/special.

Before Slowone goes for the jugular, I dont hate Macs - I just dont understand the foaming, rabid devotion a lot of die hard Mac users have for their little boxes.

If anyone wants a cheap 'hackintosh', you can run Mac OS on the MSI Wind netbook (or cheaper/identical Advent 4211, if you can stomach going into PC World :wtf: ).

Lastly anyone that has trouble with Vista either has a steam powered machine they are trying to run it on, of they're a bit... useless.

it's those sorts of quotes that makes me day lol....

I am a true Mac convert and have used one at work for over 11 years now. We have just one PC in our office and that is because the accounts software is designed around their operating system

Personally, I love Apple stuff although when you are comparing machines, they do appear overpriced compared to PCs. To me they work logically and are easy to use.

Talk to someone who has used or has both and find out the pros/cons. I would recommend it. As someone said before, the prices are coming down a lot and the MacBooks are as powerful as the Pro machines but with a smaller screen and a few other tweaks.

Mac looks cool. Super thin notebooks nice design and it's overpriced because of that. If you want to have good looking notebook and want to pay more - good choice. Other way keep away. When I was buying notebook I had chosen Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo Xi2550 - I don't regret it. My uncle bought it too and it's happy with it. I was thinking about Mac but hardware configs were low in comparison with other brands for same price. I hope you understand what I wanted to say (I'm not allways succesful in that :D).

And if you don't like win - find nice Linux distribution that will be good for you.

Mac's are stupid. That's about all I can say.

They all use i386 now, so now you can compare like for like (you couldn't when it was ppc) you see that you pay through the roof for the hardware. I mean honestly, you get nothing hardware-wise for the money.

And the software - how much of a mug do you have to be to buy OSX?!?! It's UNIX based... and people pay for it lol. It's honestly a source of much amusement to me. If you want a UNIX like system, you can download one of many Linux distros for free, legitimately, and find unlike OSX they are decent too.

I love people that think Mac's are immune to viruses. Just as my mate did, until I checked his system. Nothing is immune to malware... sure most of it is written for Windows based systems but that doesn't mean all.

As for simple to use. If you took someone that has never seen a PC before and introduced them to OSX and Vista, I expect they will either find them equally easy to use, or maybe even find Vista better. I'm certainly a Linux user but even I own and enjoy Vista very much... Microsoft have done a great job with it.

The fact is, in terms of functionality nothing is better on a Mac. If you run engineering applications you do so Windows, Linux or UNIX. For business applications, you run Windows. Lets not forget what people always say Mac is best for - creative suites. Well basically every major film and tv studio actually use Linux for special effects and editting (runs much better on supercomputers) and I think applications like Photoshop and Dreamweaver now run much better on Windows than Mac.

So the only reason therefore to have a Mac.... is to try to be different. Where ironically trying to be different, you are all herding in with the other people trying to be cool by having a Mac. It's just like the whole iPod thing. Take a second to compare and you will find players with much better sound quality (Creative, Sony, Toshiba, SanDisk etc) and better video support... yet it seems everyone has iPods because it's the 'cool' thing to have.


It's nice to have a rant.

couldn't agree more Jason

OK - I admit it. I'm superficial. Yes, I must be a tart. and Yes, I must have more money than sense but it is my money and dammit, I like being superficial.

I love my macs and have done ever since I had enough money to buy my first.

I can't be cold and logical when it comes to spending my money - I have to like what I am spending it on.
And the little pulsating heart beat along with the illuminated logo says it all - tres cool:D


Yes - you can get a comparable wintel box for a lot less money and, if you're not afraid of computers, they'll both do the same thing but I just can't get excited about the looks or 'feel' of a PC.

The bundled mac software is so intuititve to use that even my dad can use it - it took me 5 years to convince him to change and now he can't stop raving about how easy his new Macbook is to use.

You can't justify the purchase of a mac to anyone - those that instinctively know that they want a mac will find a justification. Those that don't won't. Their 'value' is intangable and pc fans will justifiably find good reasons why you shouldn't buy one.

But you know you still want one hhmmmmm....:drool:

Do it !! - life's too short to procrastinate. And hell, if you regret it, you can always buy a PC and satisfy yourself you'll be saving money cos it's cheaper...

PS - it's worth being a mac user just for the reaction you get when the spotty little oik in PC world asks if he can help you. Just start off by saying "I've got a mac and..." - Just watch the colour drain from his face:woot:

Thank you for confirming that people that buy Macs are indeed people with more money than sense, are superficial and illogical.

What is it with Mac users and the term PC. Do Apple suddenly sell mainframes, servers and supercomputers? Or do Mac users (and Apple marketing) not realise their machines are in fact Personal Computers? Just because IBM defined the term with a Windows machine, does not make all Macs somehow not PC's.

Choice as well, with Windows or Linux box you have a wealth of hundreds of thousands of completely different styles with hardware options (I can name hundreds of laptop manufacturers for Windows for example, try doing that for Mac) and you can style Windows and Linux much easier than Mac to suit your needs.

So I agree, you really can't justify the cost of a Mac to anyone. Everyone is different, which is good. So in a way I'm glad Mac's exist as it allows me to sort through people who have a sense and grip of reality.

Glad to have been of assistance!

Don't like reality - it's far too scary.

Just keep on clicking the snooze button on my mac - just so I can see the little heart beat.
It's so reassuring...

At the end of the day, choosing an Apple laptop compared to a Dell or HP is personal choice. The same opinions viewed on this thread can be applied to choosing a full-size car for example.

There are people out there who wouldnt buy a Lexus if they could get a Toyota that does the same job to the same standard. But then why do others buy a Lexus...

Personal taste is that, personal. Apple have created a demand for their products through adverts and image which clearly has had the desired effect.

you big tart matt:p
I looked at the 'air' thing which was very nice indeed - but we bought an asus eee 1000H instead since it was a grand less :woot: It's vickys laptop but it's so ace that I've been using it nonstop.

Now there's a post I can understand.

Jimmy, you know me only too well.
New pit mat for this weekend by the way!

Does it match your colours this time? Make sure not to get it dirty! :thumbsup:

It matches my APPLE MAC BOOK PRO, IPHONE and IPOD :p

the I-matt?!

Now there's an idea.

Just got to create the demand, which could be a problem...

i personally like macs but as ppl have said pcs running vista are good as long as your willing to get under the hood a lil! but for out of the box performance a mac with lepoard has the slight advantage as its a bit more zippy. so........... in all respect if your lazy buy a mac!:p
there is other alternatives as well! you could buy an x86 (pc hardware) laptop and a copy of osx for about the same price as a mac book pro then run osx under the osx86 concept thats been around for a few years. reports are a noted improvement in performance over both vista an a natively run mac! or i suppose you could jus run a linux distro as it uses the same kerna as the mac os:eh?:
i own a pc running xp and a laptop running celena both are great and would not change unless you offered me a nice mac pro with 2 xeons and 16 gb ram! i use comps for music, vsti's ect if you wondering about so much ram:D

To this. I think for newbie is PC with any OS one big jungle and it doesn't matter which one.

My friend teached his grandma to work with pc that had Ubuntu installed (she didn't have PC before) and she has no problem with it (so noone can say that Linux is only for nerds or geeks).

Personally I have both Vista (it was on notebook by default) and Linux (Debian and Ubuntu distro). I've got win only because of games and maybe one small amount of specific programs (most programs has great opensource alternative). One negative in terms notebook + linux is here - not all hardware is well supported in all notebooks (some works without problems some not).

Linux is much better than it was, especialy as the installation and setup becomes more automated and a decent GUI.... but like most, I don't need it, I play games and internet, so the Windows route is the holy road

EH!

Finalcut, Shake, Motion, Logic Studio - All Apple software and all used by major Film and TV studios. Sure some may use the odd custom Unix prog for something very very special but only in large hollywood studios. Nearly everyone else uses something like Finalcut, Premiere or Avid (the later two on a mix of windows and mac boxes), nothing special and nothing that needs a super computer!!.

As for the other creative industries you'll find Apple products as the backbone in almost all of them. 3D and Web being the main exceptions. But I know of a few 3D companies who have mac boxes running XP because the software runs better!!

Having worked on both windows and Mac platforms with PS, Illustrator, Indesign and Quark i can honestly say that sure there isnt much in it in terms of speed but the mac boxes have always had it in terms of stability which for me, in the real world of work, is much more important than outright speed.

Dreamweaver and Flash not much in it except the Flash movies run a bit faster on Windows.