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Southwell 11-08-2008 04:58 PM

Why are people such *%*^ers these days?
 
Went to get in my car yesterday and the wing mirrors are hanging off my car, along with my neighbours and someone elses. What possesses people to do this? I would never dream of damaging someone elses property, even if i was drunk!

Then i have to walk to the supermarket only for a group of 20 chavs to start chucking stones at me and my mate, luckily they couldnt hit anything for sh** and stopped when i gave them some choice words.

This place is a joke, noone behaved like this round here back when i was a teenager.

Rant over

DCM 11-08-2008 05:04 PM

I feel for you, it is called living in a liberal society where you can not punish a child, so by the time they get old enough to cause real trouble, they are to big to sort out.

GRIFF55 11-08-2008 05:16 PM

never too big steve! I think everyone should have a pop at the To###rs otherwise this country will be in a worse state than it is now:)
Makes you feel old when you start saying "it wasn't like this when i was a teenager" , doesn't it!!

DCM 11-08-2008 05:25 PM

it wasn't brill, but then I had teachers who could punish you and my mum and dad could actualy physicaly punish you too. Can't do that now, grrrrr best I step away from the kayboard...

niggs98 11-08-2008 05:27 PM

we went through a stage of the local drunks running over our cars every friday night always aiming at my mothers panda and giving it a right good kicking as well for good measure (simply because it was an old fiat) normally removing the wing mirrors as fast as i could put them on. the police did absolutely fap all (as always) so me and my mate billy bat were waiting for them one friday night and took out the lead runners legs just as he leapt for the panda, his face left a bigger dent in the roof than him running over it ever would and it isnt the sort of behaviour i would even condone myself (even tho i did it) but we have never had a car running incident in the 8 years since due to the state of the lad and i will be suprised if we do in the next few years either :thumbsup:

not trying to sway what you do ian but just to let you know that sometimes the little s"£$%^&*((*&^%$£ do get there comupance.

Southwell 11-08-2008 05:28 PM

Makes me feel old and im only 24! haha, thats baddddddddd.

We've even started having kids bringing knifes into school!

Southwell 11-08-2008 05:31 PM

O yeah nath i wouldnt have a problem with confronting them but not when theres 20 of the little scrotes.
Luckily my car wasn't at home otherwise i would be replacing both cars mirrors! But this has swayed me to buy a cheap car now, was gonna go new :(

mark christopher 11-08-2008 05:33 PM

simple answer, no discipline and no punishment for doing it

ben 11-08-2008 05:34 PM

Sorry to hear bout that ian :thumbdown: Id never consider smashing up someone else's property. :bored:

markwilliamson2001 11-08-2008 05:37 PM

I work in a school, and all the kids are complete t*****s...
I gave one kid a bollocking as he was pissing around with a blind when teachers back was turned, (teachers are mostly pretty rubbish at discipline...). The kid stopped it right away, so it doesnt take much LOL.

If they wreck your stuff, wreck them I say!

M.

ben 11-08-2008 05:41 PM

Hmm some teachers are ACE!! haha. One of my teachers used to sell us all cans of coke haha.
Southwell if you want me to go and kick the f*ck through them just call me ;) Ill bring wraggy for some back up aswell :lol:

ben 11-08-2008 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by markwilliamson2001 (Post 149709)
I work in a school, and all the kids are complete t*****s...


Hmm think you have that wrong. SOME kids are toss*rs. Like the little charvers. :woot:

Richard Lowe 11-08-2008 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by niggs98 (Post 149701)
sometimes the little s"£$%^&*((*&^%$£ do get there comupance.

Vigilante justice :thumbsup:

Southwell 11-08-2008 06:00 PM

Chances are the vigilante would get sent down instead of the offender!

niggs98 11-08-2008 06:05 PM

if they had of called the old bill id of been bolloxed but finally had enough

Chrislong 11-08-2008 06:12 PM

Usually if you grab one and pull him around while shouting at him, his arse will fall out and apologies flood while his mates leg it.

Ofcause if that doesn't happen, well he ran into a wall, several times, didn't he?.... and my knuckles are always red. ;)

SlowOne 11-08-2008 07:22 PM

Sorry to hear about the cars, Soutwell, a real p****r. My daughter had her bike nicked from outside the Globe Theatre this Saturday - broad daylight, on the pavement next to the South Bank (hundreds of people about), the b*****s chopped through the lock with bolt cutters and made off with her pride and joy.

The problem is that they don't get caught. Murder clear-up rate is 97% in this country, and we have one of the lowest murder rates anywhere. Burglary/theft clear-up rate is in the low teens, and we have a very high rate of that. We need more police to catch more criminals.

I sympathise with the 'vigilante' response, but hope it's not getting more prevalent. What's the difference between them breaking the Law, and vigilantes breaking the Law? Locally, those who pester the Police, write to the local paper and their local MP have more success. But some days, I do believe in the right to bear arms!! :D

SlowOne 11-08-2008 07:23 PM

Double post - finger trouble!! :D

Kopite 11-08-2008 07:42 PM

just saw some kids stoning cars on a roundabout whilst they were entering the slip lane. i just said 'lad's, pack it in eh'. i got a response of 'fcuk off you homo'

....sigh :(

niggs98 11-08-2008 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kopite;
149768 i got a response of 'fcuk off you homo'

....sigh :(

they must know you stan :woot::woot::woot::woot:

joking aside the authorities really need to change the law and sort these little feckers out. can u imagine what the country is gonna be like when one of these little darlings of society gets into power. i will emigrate very quickly

Kopite 11-08-2008 07:49 PM

they do now, i set fire to them

....joke!!!! (but idiots like that deserve a good kicking of some kind)

Southwell 11-08-2008 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowOne (Post 149763)
Sorry to hear about the cars, Soutwell, a real p****r. My daughter had her bike nicked from outside the Globe Theatre this Saturday - broad daylight, on the pavement next to the South Bank (hundreds of people about), the b*****s chopped through the lock with bolt cutters and made off with her pride and joy.

The problem is that they don't get caught. Murder clear-up rate is 97% in this country, and we have one of the lowest murder rates anywhere. Burglary/theft clear-up rate is in the low teens, and we have a very high rate of that. We need more police to catch more criminals.

I sympathise with the 'vigilante' response, but hope it's not getting more prevalent. What's the difference between them breaking the Law, and vigilantes breaking the Law? Locally, those who pester the Police, write to the local paper and their local MP have more success. But some days, I do believe in the right to bear arms!! :D

I can sympathse, my g/f took my £500 bike to work the other month (first mistake :lol:) and it got stolen, police wouldnt do anything even though a camera is pointing towards the bike rack!
I guess it's because im not David Cameron! :mad:

lochness42 11-08-2008 08:56 PM

I feel sorry for you. At least something what we don't have here (yet). :bored::eh?:

glypo 11-08-2008 09:09 PM

What we need are real police.

When I was at uni I worked in a convenience store. Some twat chucked a bottle of cider in my face as I refused to serve him (drunken kids had smashed up my fence at home not far away so many times, so no chance would I server under-age). Anyway I phoned the police, we detained the dude. We had to let him go in the end as the police didn't think my bleeding face was serious assualt.

They said that someone would come and take a statement the next day. TWO WEEKS LATER I had someone take a statement. During these two weeks that the police were too busy to see to me I must have driven past about 20 traffic officers. One time there was one of those mobile vans with 3 police in, and two policemen on motorbikes right next to each other. Good to know there are 5 policemen to stop you doing 34mph in a 30mph zone - yet none to attend to an assault. And despite having cctv, a name and 5 witnesses a mistake in police paperwork meant that nothing happened.

And when the shop next door to my home got broken into, and I phoned the police. Told them burgulars were still in the shop, a nice swift 24 hours later the police turned up......

savageman25 11-08-2008 09:39 PM

i no how you all feel, the police dont do alot round and i dont no if its just me but ive noticed that with these little s**ts theres always a few big kids all being controlled by one little one, theyre all hard with there mates but when there on own theyre nothing

Nige55 11-08-2008 09:43 PM

I really didn't want to read this thread, it just highlights the messed up state of affairs that I didn't want to move back to. I do want to move back, but it really saddens me how things are now. My parents live in a cottage, a few years ago local evil kids decided to set fire to the animals surrounding their neighbours cottage (goats, chickens etc). They all burned alive. Made me wanna get the next flight back and rip these' kids heads off, and I ain't a violent person ! What I want to ask is (this is a REALLY important question for my piece of mind), - what can we do to deter these twats legally ? - without physical contact ? (with more and more knives around). Is it illegal to threaten them with a can of deodorant and a lighter ? They are not illegal after all. Sorry for my naive question, I've been away a long time and I don't know the 'rules' these days.

savageman25 11-08-2008 10:06 PM

Thats just sick and wrong what they did, like you im not a violent person but them kids deserve to burn alive, see how they like it!

Tom3012 11-08-2008 11:29 PM

I'm only 18 but I do know where your all coming from! I hate what these 'people' do, it gives all people of my age, and there abouts, a really bad reputation. The looks I get sometimes of some people is almost, upsetting? Just because I'm young they tarnish us all with the same brush. To be totally honest, I can't wait to be older!

MK999 11-08-2008 11:33 PM

I know what you mean Tom ! while at uni I took to wearing hoodies, it's like essential student wear :p but wearing it around here (home) people look at you like you're about to mug them ! :o

glypo 12-08-2008 01:03 AM

For sure, the people who judge others by age or appearance are just as stupid as the idiots that go around smashing up cars.

But it doesn't matter where you are in life, you will always find people that dislike you or judge you without even knowing you. Whether it be for age or other reasons, you just have to live with it. At least those idiots aren't smashing up your car though.

ashleyb4 12-08-2008 02:02 AM

Back in my day....

O wait it is my day it makes me feel ashamed of my generation. Seeing some of the skum that comes into work and steals stuff it pisses me off especially as some of them where in my year at school and its like thats so and so...

Bring back national service.

A

James 12-08-2008 06:26 AM

As mentioned above, i was a little scared even to start reading this thread as i knew everyone on here would have a story or stories of crime/anti-social behaviour these days. Some of you will know that i live on a farm and maybe think crime would be lower in the countryside, sadly not, i would imagine my average for having to ring the police to report crime
is once very three weeks, i must say however 95% of the time the police are very quick to respond, i know we all see wasted manpower but in my experience our force are pretty good.
The best one was when two lads broke into my house trying to steal my hard earned laptop, cash and car, they ran at my dad with a screwdriver as he calmly phoned 999 to give them the number plate, they caught them within 5 miles after a car chase. I could fill pages and pages with what happens; from stealing copper wires to fly tipping (probably every 10 days).
To try and help, we now let the armed section and dog section use our farm and buildings for training, ive never seen a scrap man look so scared when he drove into the yard once to be confronted by 15 armed police and 3 dogs.

Lee 12-08-2008 07:44 AM

Sorry to hear that James, it sounds like different areas bring different problems. If i was in the house when someone broke in i would have great pleasure in "defending" myself and family. But there is a flip side to this, if you do something to someone, you never know what is going to come back on your door which is the worrying thing when you have small children.

DAVIDZX5 12-08-2008 08:52 AM

I also woke up this morning found that my mums car had been broken into..........

they stole my ipod, some money and some cd's

:mad:

lochness42 12-08-2008 01:54 PM

Sad things happens these days. As I see 13-14 years old girls drunk and smoking I want to cry. I can't understand what's happening to this world. (I'm almost 19 so most people still think that I belong to them - worse than anything) :(

mole2k 12-08-2008 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Southwell (Post 149702)
Makes me feel old and im only 24! haha, thats baddddddddd.

We've even started having kids bringing knifes into school!

This is what amazes me, im only 24 as well so it's not that long ago from I was a teenager but people genuinely didnt act that bad when I was in the 15~19 age bracket. Although the problem over here seems to be less overall in comparison to England anyway.

Kopite 12-08-2008 02:07 PM

you'll probably find loads of police wanting to do you for 34mph rather than attend an assault, because they can fine you for speeding...money!!

Yes, if someone breaks into where i live and threatens the people i care about, without hesitation, i'd beat them to death with a crowbar or something else heavy (or at least try).....and then go to jail or be sued.

the punishment should fit the crime. if someone is warped enough to set fire to farm animals, then they should be set fire to themselves.

Anyone remember reading in the news about a bunch of tossers that broke into a house in liverpool, to be confronted by the owner of the house....Duncan Ferguson!! Oh man, i bet he gave them such a good and deserved kicking!!! :thumbsup::woot:

Lee 12-08-2008 02:14 PM

I remember that stan, i bet when they saw him they looked up at him and just knew what was coming to them:thumbsup:

DCM 12-08-2008 02:15 PM

I think it depends on how you look at it, we have gangs of 'lads' that loitre but you mustn't let them intimidate you, which is pretty dam hard to do. Most won't say boo to a goose, but we are in an age where the press and media feed us this fear too. I won't be so naieve as to say that things are bad though, as when I was in school, we had running fights with the next comp, we had fights in school too, but I don't ever remember a group picking on one person and kicking the stuffing out of them.

I also don't think it is soley the lack of discipline at home either, I think the degredation of the quality of programmes, the films that are produced, the computer games also, and yes I know these are rated over 18, for most, but they are freely available. The easy access to the interenet and sites like YouTube, who, really should have a social responsibility to remove unsuitable content and do random checks on what is being posted.

Basicaly, the boundaries have been basicaly removed, so the people who are willing to, will constantly push the limits till they come up to a boundary, be it smashing wing mirrors to breaking in and assaulting senior citizens.

Maybe, like in some areas, a curfew is a good idea, personaly I think putting more resources into have a physical Police presence on the streets, and them not being tied up dealing with paperwork for a good portion of their time, also allowing them more power and not be open to accusation so easily either.

millzy 12-08-2008 02:49 PM

dude thats bad
ive seen it done and its not good. not even funny

ive had my share of beat downs as a kid most by gangs of who one on one you know you could beat but 10 of them onto you it gets hard- tought me to fight dirty and to work out the fassted way to win the fight

way i look at it is you can run or fight, and even if you lose its only going to hurt as much as the last time you lost


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