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Rich D 29-07-2008 10:17 PM

Lead Weight For Lipo
 
Hi Folks

im after some lead sheet to put under my lipo packs in my b44 and b4 please

Can anyone help ? Dont mind paying at all :thumbsup:

Cheers

peetbee 29-07-2008 10:22 PM

Try down your local tyre place, I just said it was for an rc model and they gave me a few strips of the stuff.

jim76 29-07-2008 10:22 PM

get down your local kwikfit and ask for some alloy wheel balancing weights. sticky back strips of lead. they will normally bung you a couple of strips for nothing, well, at least my local one did!

DCM 29-07-2008 10:22 PM

Just look out for a Scrappies van, then when he isn't looking, jump in the back and pinch some lead flashing that he has pinched off someones roof.... :P

mark christopher 30-07-2008 07:21 AM

you need the lead flashing, i carnt get hold of any more buy ask local builder etc

frogger 30-07-2008 10:02 AM

I actually gone and bought a whole roll of flashing ($$$ :o) and I've made cuts for my B4 and B44. I can do some cuts and sell them but have no idea what to charge. £5+postage/car? I'll make them bigger thane needed so you can do your own trimming. PM me if interested.:)

The one in my B4 is pretty much spot on 125gr and is nice and flat sitting under the battery so the weight is nice and low. :thumbsup:

ashleyb4 30-07-2008 10:08 AM

I dont use any weight in my cr with lipo If lipo gets voted in next year ifor one will be voting for the weights to be reduced.

A

Lee 30-07-2008 10:14 AM

Does that mean you will propose it as well ash?

I dont think people are weighing the cars up to the weight limit ash, its probably to get the feel of the car the same so the suspension will work as it does with the nimh

super__dan 30-07-2008 10:44 AM

Ash, If lipo is allowed, I don't see any reason to bother changing the weight limit, especially as lowering it might penalise people who haven't/can't afford to to make the change straight away. I think it should remain as is.

DCM 30-07-2008 11:14 AM

running the B4 with LiPo makes it even more skittish than it is, the decrease in weight is a disadvantage the way I see it.

burgie 30-07-2008 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 146150)
I dont use any weight in my cr with lipo If lipo gets voted in next year ifor one will be voting for the weights to be reduced.
A

:eh?: Thats just bonkers.

Chrislong 30-07-2008 11:30 AM

The weight limit has got to stay the same, if not be increased!

If Trish is listening/reading, I know he is able to make some brass pads to fit under the Lipo. This is what I'll be using when I need to, will look very nice. ;)

Although stick back lead (wheel weights) are likely to be the cheapest way.

Bungleaio 30-07-2008 12:08 PM

I went to a couple of my local tyre fitters and they wouldn't even sell me some of the stick on weights let alone give them to me, the stingey gets.

I've just bought a few of these http://www.modelhelicopters.co.uk/cg...08490#a5508490

mark christopher 30-07-2008 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bungleaio (Post 146189)
I went to a couple of my local tyre fitters and they wouldn't even sell me some of the stick on weights let alone give them to me, the stingey gets.

I've just bought a few of these http://www.modelhelicopters.co.uk/cg...08490#a5508490


they aint cheap no more there no longer lead, so mor bulk for the same weight

mark christopher 30-07-2008 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DCM (Post 146164)
running the B4 with LiPo makes it even more skittish than it is, the decrease in weight is a disadvantage the way I see it.

until some one takes time to work out a set up for a lighter car!

SHY 30-07-2008 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 146200)
until some one takes time to work out a set up for a lighter car!

We finally agree on something! :D

Maybe it's time for softer springs than what's available now?

IMHO weight DISTRIBUTION is paramount. TOTAL weight should always be as low as possible. And as much downforce as you can get.

Lee 30-07-2008 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SHY (Post 146209)
IMHO weight DISTRIBUTION is paramount. TOTAL weight should always be as low as possible.


Agreed :thumbsup:

ashleyb4 30-07-2008 02:03 PM

I do add a littlebit of weight but only about 20 grams to the front of the car i added the full weight to bring itb ack up to leagal weight and it wasnt nice to drive. Put my nimh in with the same setup etc its nice but adding weight to lipo makes it horrible if we dont lower the weight of the cars there is no point what so ever in going lipo.

A

Lee 30-07-2008 02:09 PM

So its actually the make up of the cell that makes the car handle differently rather than the weight of the cells in the car, interesting :thumbsup:

When you brought the car back up to weight, you didnt stick the weights all over the bodyshell did you?

ashleyb4 30-07-2008 02:15 PM

No im not a retard like you lee i put it in strips across my battery tray bellow my lipo.

A

mark christopher 30-07-2008 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 146230)
I do add a littlebit of weight but only about 20 grams to the front of the car i added the full weight to bring itb ack up to leagal weight and it wasnt nice to drive. Put my nimh in with the same setup etc its nice but adding weight to lipo makes it horrible if we dont lower the weight of the cars there is no point what so ever in going lipo.

A

sorry ash but thats total crap

what you have said there is your car was nice to drive before you went to lipo....................you put lipo in (lightening the car) and it was the same, then you added weight and it was worse, even though your prob running the same weight as nimh set up?

as for the point of going lipo

one or two packs
top up, no discharge/equalize/etc
same performance run after run

come on ash, think before you post fella!!

SHY 30-07-2008 02:17 PM

3,842 vs. 3,931... I have a sneaky feeling this is really all about being the #1 poster... :D

ashleyb4 30-07-2008 02:19 PM

Well i for one will be preposing lipo next year and i will also prepose that the weight limit is bought down. As as you all say the car should handel better with the extra weight so if i run a lighter car ill have a disadvantage. Lets not get into the weight/handelling debate

A

mark christopher 30-07-2008 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 146239)
Well i for one will be preposing lipo next year and i will also prepose that the weight limit is bought down. As as you all say the car should handel better with the extra weight so if i run a lighter car ill have a disadvantage. Lets not get into the weight/handelling debate

A

no ash were saying current set ups are for a heavy car, making that car lighter in the centre of its chassis will alter its handling nd once folk try new set ups, then a lighter car should be faster, after all how many 1:1 classes add loads of weight to gain performance?

frogger 30-07-2008 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark christopher (Post 146242)
after all how many 1:1 classes add loads of weight to gain performance?

But they don't drive massively over powered cars like we do. If they'd all strap jet engines to their cars it would be a differents tory :D You need to keep the wheels on the ground for the motor to make it go fast. :woot:

Lee 30-07-2008 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 146234)
im not a retard

Who told you that :confused:

mark christopher 30-07-2008 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frogger (Post 146248)
But they don't drive massively over powered cars like we do. If they'd all strap jet engines to their cars it would be a differents tory :D You need to keep the wheels on the ground for the motor to make it go fast. :woot:

super bikes dont have high power to weight ratio?
f1 dont have enough power?
are you serious? your saying there not over powered and adding weight will help them?

if the car is lighter, the solution is not to ad weight but make the suspensiion suppler to ride the bumps and put the tyres in contact with the track

mark christopher 30-07-2008 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee (Post 146255)
Who told you that :confused:

his mummy:D

Lee 30-07-2008 03:14 PM

:thumbsup:


Maybe its time for a new shock absorber :o

Kopite 30-07-2008 03:22 PM

If you have a lighter car, your setup has to be really really spot on, whereras if you have a heavier car, your setup doesn't have to be quite so perfect for it to get round (plus a heavier car seems to grip better in loose or wet conditions). This is what i've found with gaining and losing weight on the car (after trying to shed loads of weight on my cars, then going back to adding weights again)

i therefore will be running an absolute brick from now on :woot:

but the point is, with the weight loss of running LIPO, i would defo add weight to bring it up to the weight it was with NiMH (especially in 2wd)

bringing the weight limit down would be like pissing into the wind, or having sex with a diseased prostitute :thumbdown:

Lee 30-07-2008 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kopite (Post 146264)
having sex with a diseased prostitute :thumbdown:

You say that like its a bad thing :o

ashleyb4 30-07-2008 04:12 PM

How would you know what my car handelled like one none of you drive a cr and none od you have driven a cr with lipo ive done 7 or 8 club meetings running my lipo in my cr and i preffered the feel of the car when it only had a very small ammount of weight and i was quicker to.

A

ashleyb4 30-07-2008 04:14 PM

Now let me have my opnion and my say. I pay my BRCA membership fee just like everyone else and im intitled to my say.

A

Cockerill 30-07-2008 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashleyb4 (Post 146283)
none of you drive a cr and none of you have driven a cr with lipo

I've done both and the X6 is far better :thumbsup:

Ash, will you be at the BRCA AGM this year?

I agree with most that the weight limit should not be reduced. It also needs to be a worldwide change, we don't really want to be running to different weight limits to Europe and the rest of the world. I say keep it as is and let people run their cars how they like, even with Lipo I think most would struggle to get under the current weight limits.

Lee 30-07-2008 04:19 PM

Ash, you dont pay your brca so you can post on oOple :woot:

Your so retarded its funny :woot:

Bungleaio 30-07-2008 04:24 PM

I'm using Lipo exclusively and RC is a lot better for it in my opinion, anyway in my touring car I needed to add about 240g to one side of it just to get it to balance on its left/right axis, as it happenes that took it up to the 1500g min weight limit. So in effect I didn't actually add any weight to the car, I only replaced the weight that was lost from changing cells. If the weight limit was reduced this wouldn't make any difference to me as the car isn't setup for cells in a saddle formation but if it was then there would still need to be a certain amount of weight added to balance it on the front/rear axis. So personally I'm happy with the current weight limits but I do think lipo should be made legal in all classes as I'd love to do some of the off road regionals next year.

super__dan 30-07-2008 04:25 PM

I'm not getting on the back of this for the sake of bashing Ash, but Ash, you're 'proposal' seems to be what's best for you, not for everyone including those not able to buy Lipo straight off (if even legalised).

I won't be at the AGM becasue I'm at Northy's daughters Christening but if you propose the idea I hope it doesn't get voted in.

Tom3012 30-07-2008 04:33 PM

Having helped in scrutineering at the Southport National I can remember only one car in 2wd that was anything near the minimum weight (+50g). So i can't see what all the fuss is about. Lipo's might let people get down to near the current minimum. Then add weight where its needed to balance the car.....


Regards,

Ian

ashleyb4 30-07-2008 04:37 PM

northy's monkey spanker was something like 3g under at bury last year :p

A

Cockerill 30-07-2008 04:40 PM

I don't think so Ash otherwise he wouldn't have been able to race it!


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