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jo90 10-04-2013 08:28 AM

Removing tyres - Boiling them - How To's
 
I need to now start recycling some used rims. I know many use Acetone but I have no where safe to do this with small kids about so ideally I want to boil them off.

So, how to do this ? Of course, boil, but for how long etc etc roughly. Should the water be litterally boiling away on no a very steady high simmer where the water is bubbling ?

Will this affect the rim afterm aking them brittle at all ?

Cheers for help, its appreciated

RobW 10-04-2013 08:56 AM

I started boiling tyres for same reason as you re small children around and found it so effective just carried on even when children now older.

I use an old saucepan and lid as I would not want to eat food prepared in saucepan afterwards due to superglue.

I slice tyres down middle to take insert out and leave whole tyre on as this gives me something to pull on once I've boiled them.

I boil with a lid on for about hour and 15 mins. Tyres then come off really easy. Water needs to be bubbling the whole time so need to put lid on and gradually turn heat down until it is just bubbling and not boiling over, once you have done it once you'll know how high temp you need to leave it on.

You'll need to make sure water does not boil dry - I usually boil a kettle of water about half way through to refill saucepan. I set an alarm as I am usually in garage when I am boiling tyres and once you have the smell of burnt tyres in your kitchen once you'll do the same! I also need to put extractor fan on full and leave a window open otherwise kitchen steams up.

Never had a problem with brittle wheels - I've boiled associated, proline, schumacher, kyosho, Losi wheels.

Rob

jo90 10-04-2013 10:18 AM

Thanks Rob, that answered it all. Plan to boil these on one of those portal stoves so its outdoors..and yeh old saucepan and wont be used for nothing but tyre boiling :)


cheers

Pacman 10-04-2013 11:08 AM

I tried boiling wheels and tires back in the 90's on my Cat 2000 wheels. Unfortunately the wheels shrunk, so haven't tried it since. However modern wheel materials may be different, so I'd advise you try it on your worst condition wheels first.

RichyUK 10-04-2013 11:51 AM

i boil them if i need a speedy removal, if not then i use acetone. I fill up a shot glass of acetone, pop in the middle of an airtight container surrounded by the wheels i need rubber removed from (i cut most of the tyre off and remove inserts first), pop the lid on, then i leave the container out of harms way up on top of a kitchen cupboard. The fumes in the container soften the glue nicely :)

Matt Butcher 10-04-2013 12:39 PM

acetone for me too, soooooo easy :)

Danny Harrison 10-04-2013 12:46 PM

£1 nail varnish remover for me, stick em in a tub, pour a bit over and leave em on the fridge with lid on. 4 hours later they peel off nicely :)

jo90 10-04-2013 02:18 PM

I like the idea of acetone doing this quick, but with kids about and possible smell i need to boil them outdoors

thanks though guys for the replies

cutting42 10-04-2013 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jo90 (Post 764595)
I like the idea of acetone doing this quick, but with kids about and possible smell i need to boil them outdoors

thanks though guys for the replies

I use a sealable sandwich box and get no smell at all. I take the box outside and put the tyres in so the smell does not get inside. The box I use has very tough clips as well and I just keep the acetone in there and on a high shelf out of small peoples reach.

Chequered Flag Racing 10-04-2013 02:51 PM

I use the oven when she's out :woot:

10 to 15 mins on 100c.

Use 'rigger' gloves or similar and peel tyre from rim.

RichyUK 10-04-2013 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutting42 (Post 764601)
I use a sealable sandwich box and get no smell at all. I take the box outside and put the tyres in so the smell does not get inside. The box I use has very tough clips as well and I just keep the acetone in there and on a high shelf out of small peoples reach.

same as. mine is totally airtight, no whiffs of acetone in my kitchen :D

paulc 11-04-2013 05:51 AM

Doe's boiling them have any affect on the tyre i usually use acetone but wanted to try and save some tyres of old rims if possible and acetone makes some compounds go hard so thought about boiling them

Origineelreclamebord 11-04-2013 06:39 AM

I really like boiling, but results depend on how well the glue bond is (what quality glue, if the wheels and tire beads were properly cleaned, etc) - and the glue residue remains to be hard. On the wheel it's not a problem (Screwdriver, Knife, Dremel), but on the tire it is if you want to use it again.

naomiswanson 11-04-2013 09:24 AM

Boiling is one of my basic techniques and it is considered as a best for removing the quality of some tires. But i try to use some acetone because I am going to save some part of my tires.

1rcdad 11-04-2013 09:57 AM

Always boil for 10 minutes then put into iced water for about 5 minutes,tyres fall off rims and glue residue just peels off.

mrspeedy 11-04-2013 10:21 AM

I always boil mine off .. usually around 30 mins in a pan is long enough .. only problem I've found is it can make the rims go out of "round" with some makes ... but I do it anyway :p

Hpi_guy 11-04-2013 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing (Post 764608)
I use the oven when she's out :woot:

10 to 15 mins on 100c.

Use 'rigger' gloves or similar and peel tyre from rim.

No no no no :o , when you bake them the glue gives off cyanide, boiling and acetone is the safe way :D

Hpi_guy 11-04-2013 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulc (Post 764772)
Doe's boiling them have any affect on the tyre i usually use acetone but wanted to try and save some tyres of old rims if possible and acetone makes some compounds go hard so thought about boiling them

Nope, boiling does not effect the tyre

Robby 11-04-2013 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chequered Flag Racing (Post 764608)
I use the oven when she's out :woot:

10 to 15 mins on 100c.

Use 'rigger' gloves or similar and peel tyre from rim.

+1 :thumbsup:

AJ Roberts 11-04-2013 09:52 PM

I always boil, I done a set of 1/8th buggy wheels today and had the old tyres off and new ones glued back on the old rims in under an hour ;)

TARTMAN 12-04-2013 12:13 AM

both
 
i have boiled and acetoned.

boiling is dangerous, burnt fimgers, etc etc and stinks.

acetone, easy, airtight container. pop in a few mm of pure acetone, drop in the wheels/tyres, 24 to 48 hours later they peel off.

so you can use the wheels and sometimes the inserts and the tyres again. or cut off the tyres if shot and remove the insert then drop in the wheel. excess rubber comes off easily after the 24 hour soak.

use decent pure acetone as some nail varnish removers dont work(acetone free or low mix).

Shaun_TLR 12-04-2013 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TARTMAN (Post 765071)
i have boiled and acetoned.

boiling is dangerous, burnt fimgers, etc etc and stinks.

acetone, easy, airtight container. pop in a few mm of pure acetone, drop in the wheels/tyres, 24 to 48 hours later they peel off.

so you can use the wheels and sometimes the inserts and the tyres again. or cut off the tyres if shot and remove the insert then drop in the wheel. excess rubber comes off easily after the 24 hour soak.

use decent pure acetone as some nail varnish removers dont work(acetone free or low mix).

Can I just check, is it the acetone fumes that break down the glue, or do the tyres/wheels need to be immersed in acetone for it to work?

also, how much acetone do I need to use ?

ta

Danny Harrison 12-04-2013 01:19 PM

Its the fumes, fully immersing would be quicker but i just put a bit in the bottom. I cut tyres off first and remove inserts too.

Ive done 2 sets last week with cheap nail varnish remover. Worked great and no smell either when sealed. Even open smell is minimal.

buggy#0 12-04-2013 01:37 PM

While we are on the subject of removing tyres, I have a set of front mini pins that were obviously glued using the worlds strongest glue (probably industrial grade super-ca) and 30 mins of boiling has done nothing. I have tried a bit of acetone, but it just isn't happening. Any ideas?

Groomi 12-04-2013 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1rcdad (Post 764808)
Always boil for 10 minutes then put into iced water for about 5 minutes,tyres fall off rims and glue residue just peels off.

This sounds simple. I can see how got then cold will bresk doem the glue quickly, but does it damage wheel or tyre at all?

cutting42 12-04-2013 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggy#0 (Post 765214)
While we are on the subject of removing tyres, I have a set of front mini pins that were obviously glued using the worlds strongest glue (probably industrial grade super-ca) and 30 mins of boiling has done nothing. I have tried a bit of acetone, but it just isn't happening. Any ideas?

Submerge in acetone for 24 hrs, that should do it

bodgit 12-04-2013 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buggy#0 (Post 765214)
While we are on the subject of removing tyres, I have a set of front mini pins that were obviously glued using the worlds strongest glue (probably industrial grade super-ca) and 30 mins of boiling has done nothing. I have tried a bit of acetone, but it just isn't happening. Any ideas?


You could try baking them off. There's quite a few video's on You Tube.

crtpromachine 12-04-2013 06:25 PM

I bolied 10 sets of tyres of tyres of the rims on Monday and took about 2 hours simple way of doing and get the job done easily instead of waiting for the accetone to take its cause;

I will admit i use both methods boiling and accetone i do not bake as the smell is awful and stinks the house out :o

Both of the methods does exactly what it says on the tin

Hpi_guy 12-04-2013 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crtpromachine (Post 765287)
I bolied 10 sets of tyres of tyres of the rims on Monday and took about 2 hours simple way of doing and get the job done easily instead of waiting for the accetone to take its cause;

I will admit i use both methods boiling and accetone i do not bake as the smell is awful and stinks the house out :o

Both of the methods does exactly what it says on the tin

That smell will be the cyanide :thumbdown:

Burty248 12-04-2013 10:47 PM

Just had a weird thought. How quick would removing tyres be in boiling acetone? :woot:
Please don't actually try this anyone.

cutting42 12-04-2013 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burty248 (Post 765355)
Just had a weird thought. How quick would removing tyres be in boiling acetone? :woot:
Please don't actually try this anyone.

Actually as just a boiling liquid, pretty safe as it needs to be well over 400 deg C to just explode. However the fumes mixed with air are massively flammable and if you were using a gas flame to heat the acetone the fumes would very quickly reach the gas flame and you would see "big boom" taking your tyres and head "clean off".

As Burty248 says. Do NOT try this at home!

Burty248 13-04-2013 08:02 AM

Strap an abused lipo to the side of the saucepan and it will create a acetone superbomb, able to dissolve superglue and remove tyres with a range of 1km.

Pacman 24-07-2013 11:46 AM

I finally got round to trying the acetone method for removing glued tyres from wheels. It worked a treat. Just left the wheels in an old ice cream tub over night with a small amount of nail polish remover.

Best part was that the acetone I used was Wilko's nail polish remover which only costs £1, and I'd guess I only used around 20p's worth!

scotty_big_flip 25-07-2013 07:53 AM

some top advice, however as im without kids im opting for the acetone way :)

Welshy40 25-07-2013 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jo90 (Post 764501)
I need to now start recycling some used rims. I know many use Acetone but I have no where safe to do this with small kids about so ideally I want to boil them off.

So, how to do this ? Of course, boil, but for how long etc etc roughly. Should the water be litterally boiling away on no a very steady high simmer where the water is bubbling ?

Will this affect the rim afterm aking them brittle at all ?

Cheers for help, its appreciated

Try Nuclear RC acetone. Link is below. :thumbsup:

Belsten 25-07-2013 07:41 PM

Thanks for the recommendation, youre better off pming me though

spindles69 25-07-2013 09:40 PM

Get a heat gun,fill sink with cold water.Heat the wheel rim going round at a steady rate,when you hear the glue start cracking put the wheel in the cold water and do the same to the rest of the rims. Take them out of the water turn over and do the other side. This is the fastest way of getting your tyres off the rims. Four tyres off the rims less than ten minutes.

RC-BITS-BOBS 25-07-2013 09:47 PM

ace
 
guys use the Microwave ! :thumbsup: joking guys haha !
+1 for acetone !

discostu 25-07-2013 10:15 PM

the quickest way is to go to shop pay money receive new wheels and tires.

spend 10 mins glueing them up go racing

happy wife as kitchen is still clean:thumbsup:

stu

jsw123 26-07-2013 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by discostu (Post 791807)
the quickest way is to go to shop pay money receive new wheels and tires.

spend 10 mins glueing them up go racing

happy wife as kitchen is still clean:thumbsup:

stu

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

And with a small child running around acetone sounds like a bad idea.


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