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Benh 27-02-2013 10:32 PM

Tyred and tested.
 
Dear peeps of the EoE. Looking to get a handle on what to have in the arsenal for 2013.

What is YOUR tyre recommendation for YOUR track in the EoE.

Please show wet and dry choices.

I can only comment on Colchesters flatter track with any confidence.

Colchester. 4WD.
Dry
Rears:
Schum Yellows
Fronts:
Schum Yellows

Wet/Damp
Ballistic Greens all round

wrighty 28-02-2013 07:10 AM

Everything ive got minispikes in yellow green and silver
fullspikes in yellow minipin in yellow
I think its going to be yellow green minispike or ballistics at most tracks
maybe minipin at herts

jcb 28-02-2013 05:44 PM

I reckon a good base for every track would be:

Schumacher Mini Spikes in Yellow for the Dry

Ballistic Buggy Spikes in Green for the wet / damp



As I'm racing 2wd up front is likely to be

Schumacher Cut Staggers in Yellow for the dry

Schumacher Mini Spikes in Green for the wet / damp


If I were running 4wd I'd match the fronts to the rears and just cut off spikes if I have too much grip!!

And of course all my tires will have the fantastic Mr O Racing foam inserts in them.



As we know the possibilities are endless.

I have heard that Schumacher Mini Pins work well at Herts, but equally know that Ballistic Buggy Spikes work there. Similar is true with Boughton, with the summer series being a control tyre of Ballistic Buggy Spikes I would think a majority would have a comfortable set-up on them, but know that other tyre combinations are quicker.

Chesty 01-03-2013 12:27 PM

On Coastal's current grass track dBoots Multibyte in compound A have been popular over the winter but I've also seen Schumacher & Ballistic Minispikes being used...

By the time the regional gets here there may be a new astro track surface & it might even be dry:o

spindles69 04-03-2013 04:12 PM

Tyres for MERCC
4wd dboots a compound rear,on the front schumacher mini spikes with the outer two rows cut off.
2wd rear the same as 4wd fronts if you can get a set then schumacher ribbed spikes are the tyres to have. I have three pairs 2 brand new and 1 worn set. So im sorted :-))
May part with a set but only to the essex boys, no carrot crunchers need apply:-)).

racingdwarf 04-03-2013 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benh (Post 750915)
Dear peeps of the EoE. Looking to get a handle on what to have in the arsenal for 2013.

What is YOUR tyre recommendation for YOUR track in the EoE.

Please show wet and dry choices.

I can only comment on Colchesters flatter track with any confidence.

Colchester. 4WD.
Dry
Rears:
Schum Yellows
Fronts:
Schum Yellows

Wet/Damp
Ballistic Greens all round

steady, probably anther of bens competitive tricks,non of the above work:lol:

rcmodelweek 04-03-2013 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racingdwarf (Post 752487)
steady, probably anther of bens competitive tricks,non of the above work:lol:

Yeah, exactly what I was thinking! Here's a good tip, Tamiya Rallyblocks are the tyre to have, they work on every track in any conditions! Trust me :thumbsup:

wrighty 04-03-2013 07:05 PM

Sorted the rally blocks as a control tyre could be fun

Benh 04-03-2013 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by racingdwarf (Post 752487)
steady, probably anther of bens competitive tricks,non of the above work:lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcmodelweek (Post 752505)
Yeah, exactly what I was thinking! Here's a good tip, Tamiya Rallyblocks are the tyre to have, they work on every track in any conditions! Trust me :thumbsup:

Firstly, quit spoiling my cunning plans! Secondly - I am relatively green in the RC world. I have no idea what Labia Rallybollocks are.

Here's how I see the tyre choices and the afforitayyyyy on the subject:

4WD -
Boughton - John Myall (2012 Regional Winner)
Coastal - John Myall (Club Champ)
Colchester - George Fairweather (2012 Regional Winner)
Eastrax - Jonathan Brown
Herts - George Fairweather (Top finisher)
MERCC - Mick Spindles, (Club Champ)

2WD
Boughton - Jonathan Brown (Regional winner)
Coastal - Simon Watson (Fastest 2WD)
Colchester - Jonathan Brown (Regional winner)
Eastrax - Jonathan Brown (Regional Champ)
Herts - Danny Conway (Top finisher)
MERCC - Mick Spindles, (Club Champ)

jcb 06-03-2013 09:22 AM

What about ARC???


For the newer racers in the region and those that don't get the humor above (probably me being boring but hey ho!) no bollocks, no duff information, I'll be running one of the following at all venues, most likely the first one on the list with the rest being a handy option depending on actual track conditions on the day.


Dry:-
Rear- Schumacher Mini Spikes in Yellow
or Ballistic Buggy Spikes in White
or Dboots Multibyte

Front- Schumacher Narrow Low Profile Cut Staggers in Yellow
or Schumacher Cut Staggers in Yellow

Wet:-
Rear- Ballistic Buggy Spikes in Green
or Dboots Multibyte

Front- Schumacher Mini Spikes in Green


All with Mr 'O' Racing wide inserts in the rear and firms up front if required (no inserts needed in narrow low profile cut staggers)


Shame there isn't a tyre rule what with there being a couple of new / returning venues on the calendar. Gets rid of the tire lottery

Benh 06-03-2013 02:30 PM

Fair points.

Ok - seriously.

What I was trying to do was get away from the generic by gleaning the info from the track champs. That way it's up to date, it will be the best tyre for that surface and if they suggest a curveball they'll get called out. That way people could look at the preferred list and make their purchases on that info.

ARC falls into 'generic' choice as it's a complete unknown. The tracks not finished yet.

I was then going to publish that info for all to see and everyone can choose their own 'generic' set for their season.

That was my thinking.

rcmodelweek 06-03-2013 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcb (Post 753091)
Shame there isn't a tyre rule what with there being a couple of new / returning venues on the calendar. Gets rid of the tire lottery

I agree, Ballistic Spikes as a control tyre for the whole series! They would work at all tracks wet or dry....
Would come down to driver ability more then....

spindles69 06-03-2013 07:21 PM

[QUOTE=Benh;753193]Fair points.

Ok - seriously.

What I was trying to do was get away from the generic by gleaning the info from the track champs. That way it's up to date, it will be the best tyre for that surface and if they suggest a curveball they'll get called out. That way people could look at the preferred list and make their purchases on that info.

ARC falls into 'generic' choice as it's a complete unknown. The tracks not finished yet.

I was then going to publish that info for all to see and everyone can choose their own 'generic' set for their season.

Thats the thanks you get Ben for trying to give people a heads up on what tyres to run. F..k em Ben let them make there own choice:mad:.

Tyres that i will be using are worn minipins with drawing pins pushed through and taped on the inside. If i suffer grip roll then i will take the outside row of drawing pins out. Job done:thumbsup:.
Good for all surfaces.

jcb 07-03-2013 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcmodelweek (Post 753321)
I agree, Ballistic Spikes as a control tyre for the whole series! They would work at all tracks wet or dry....
Would come down to driver ability more then....


I think you'd need to give a couple of choices, like a dry weather and wet weather tire.

Personally I don't think Ballistics work everywhere, particularly when it comes to dry grass tracks.

Although everyone would be in the same situation. It would also make car set-up more critical, which may or may not be a good thing.

bomber 07-03-2013 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spindles69 (Post 753325)
Tyres that i will be using are worn minipins with drawing pins pushed through and taped on the inside. If i suffer grip roll then i will take the outside row of drawing pins out. Job done:thumbsup:.
Good for all surfaces.

I prefer 4" nails, it seems to go over the bumps better :)

spindles69 07-03-2013 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bomber (Post 753495)
I prefer 4" nails, it seems to go over the bumps better :)

Thats ok on the rears Lee but may damage the shell on the steering. My advice would be,you could try the four inch nails but don't hammer them straight through? :-))
Even better if you use screws you could wind them in and out to suit what track your racing on. You don't have to thank me i'm glad to help:-)).

Chesty 07-03-2013 09:14 AM

Please don't introduce a control tyre/s for this years series.

It's too late now as I'm sure many have bought tyres already so it would just be another thing to moan about.

I think anyone who has yellow minispikes/s ribs, BB greens & possibly dBoots will be sorted for the series:thumbsup:

Chesty 07-03-2013 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benh (Post 752586)
Firstly, quit spoiling my cunning plans! Secondly - I am relatively green in the RC world. I have no idea what Labia Rallybollocks are.

Here's how I see the tyre choices and the afforitayyyyy on the subject:

4WD -
Boughton - John Myall (2012 Regional Winner)
Coastal - John Myall (Club Champ)
Colchester - George Fairweather (2012 Regional Winner)
Eastrax - Jonathan Brown
Herts - George Fairweather (Top finisher)
MERCC - Mick Spindles, (Club Champ)

2WD
Boughton - Jonathan Brown (Regional winner)
Coastal - Simon Watson (Fastest 2WD)
Colchester - Jonathan Brown (Regional winner)
Eastrax - Jonathan Brown (Regional Champ)
Herts - Danny Conway (Top finisher)
MERCC - Mick Spindles, (Club Champ)

I thought 2012 season coastal club champ was Nic Donovan:woot:

wrighty 07-03-2013 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chesty (Post 753502)
I thought 2012 season coastal club champ was Nic Donovan:woot:




Lmao

Benh 07-03-2013 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chesty (Post 753502)
I thought 2012 season coastal club champ was Nic Donovan:woot:

:lol:
I put him down alongside Myally but, like so many, he suffered from a pre-submit deletion. I only post 10% of my inane dribble!

Tyre rule I agree, but too late for this year. But, it would need to carry an exception: For 1st entry to someone new to regional racing and with rtr or kit tyres. A certain Brady is reason to why this is so important.

JohnM 07-03-2013 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wrighty (Post 753514)
Lmao

Not sure why some of you lot think it's funny that Nic won the summer series, after all he did out point ALL of you who did enough rounds to count and there was a good number of you who did;) You all got beat fair and square:p

For Ben's question about tyres, last year I used BB greens to win the first round at Boughton in the wet, Schumacher yellow mini spikes to win the second round there and one round at Coastal, both in the dry.

Used DBoots Mulitibites in A compound to win the last dry/damp round at Colchester.

MERCC in the dry is DBoots time, nothing else really stays together long enough to finish a race there.

Eastrax, not sure, haven't been there for 5 years or so, but BBs or Schuey minis should work.

Herts is going to a tough one, yellow minis worked well last week in the cold and damp at the start, and in the dry later on. Some peeps were running micro spikes and were fast, but might be hard to hold on to for 5 mins. BB whites are supposed to work to.

ARC, don't care, not going, unless I really have to:p

rcmodelweek 07-03-2013 06:41 PM

Well maybe a control tyre may be worth looking into for next year? Possibly needs discussing at this years agm? Agree with Jon though, maybe a choice of two, it would certainly make the racing more interesting.....

spindles69 07-03-2013 07:13 PM

Why not go the full hog and run silver cans.

Leave it as it is otherwise racers will not bother doing the regionals.

All we want to do is have a days racing, if you win or lose it dosn't matter.

There's enough rules already. We need to encourage people to take part not to tell them little johnny cannot play today because he has the wrong tyres.

As the saying goes "if its not broken don't fix it"

rcmodelweek 07-03-2013 07:49 PM

Sorry. I'll post no more on the subject. Case closed.

Wish I could be at round 1, unfortunately Vegas is slightly more appealing :thumbsup:

David1976 08-03-2013 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spindles69 (Post 753675)
Why not go the full hog and run silver cans.

Leave it as it is otherwise racers will not bother doing the regionals.

All we want to do is have a days racing, if you win or lose it dosn't matter.

There's enough rules already. We need to encourage people to take part not to tell them little johnny cannot play today because he has the wrong tyres.

As the saying goes "if its not broken don't fix it"


Here here Michael!

nic 08-03-2013 03:08 PM

Thanks Jon that Coastal win has gotten me my £100000 a year contract with durango
so you bum boys can go and cry x

Benh 08-03-2013 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nic (Post 753942)
Thanks Jon that Coastal win has gotten me my £100000 a year contract with durango
so you bum boys can go and cry x

Legend!:thumbsup:




PS - If you're win has influenced just 10% of Roper's and Brady's spend, then Durango got a deal of the century!

GrahamH7060 08-03-2013 09:29 PM

Only £100000 Nic ? Why would you take a salary cut ???
I've seen your price list !!!! :)

Benh 15-03-2013 06:00 PM

Couple of things -

1st Update on the "Champions Tyre Choice"
Info is all here: http://bit.ly/WLtVO2

Or
2WD - http://www.brca-eoe.co.uk/communitie...4588882657.swf
4WD - http://www.brca-eoe.co.uk/communitie...4588882658.swf



And also - LOOK AT THESE!:wtf::)

Schumachers new long pile astro boots.

http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uplo...rBlockTire.jpg

Coastal 15-03-2013 07:16 PM

Awesome work Mr H., now I have to go out and get some tyres for my new 4WD:thumbsup:

spindles69 16-03-2013 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benh (Post 756473)
Couple of things -

1st Update on the "Champions Tyre Choice"
Info is all here: http://bit.ly/WLtVO2

Or
2WD - http://www.brca-eoe.co.uk/communitie...4588882657.swf
4WD - http://www.brca-eoe.co.uk/communitie...4588882658.swf



And also - LOOK AT THESE!:wtf::)

Schumachers new long pile astro boots.

http://www.redrc.net/wp-content/uplo...rBlockTire.jpg

Ben, iv'e got some original worn square blocks somewhere in the cupboard,i will have to dig them out:thumbsup:

Benh 18-03-2013 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spindles69 (Post 756637)
Ben, iv'e got some original worn square blocks somewhere in the cupboard,i will have to dig them out:thumbsup:

Have you considered opening an RC tyre museum? I think it was at Colchester you pulled out some tyres from the original Ford Model T.:lol:

spindles69 18-03-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benh (Post 757521)
Have you considered opening an RC tyre museum? I think it was at Colchester you pulled out some tyres from the original Ford Model T.:lol:

Anything to keep up with you Mr Hubbard :p

Benh 20-03-2013 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spindles69 (Post 757554)
Anything to keep up with you Mr Hubbard :p

:lol:

Says the man with a car so quick, it actually rips holes in Spacetime. :lol:



This was requested for apple fans, iOS users et al.

2WD - PDF

4WD - PDF

Benh 25-03-2013 06:06 PM

Just a quick update on the tyre choice for Holbeach.

Tony, the man behind Eastrax, has recommended exactly the same as JCB - but with the following couple of additions:

2WD - Dry - Rear
dBoot - Multibyte (Slightly quicker but harder to drive than Schumacher Yellow)

2WD - Wet - Front
Ballistic - Minispike - Green
For Damp/Wet - same as Jonathan Brown

For those running short course:

Dry - Korse King
or
Wet - Unknown.


Tony (dadtc3) will have a selection of tyres for sale trackside, should you need it.

In addition

EMS Racing (checa) have also expressed they will be supplying "tyre bargains" trackside.

GrahamH7060 25-03-2013 09:55 PM

Think I might need to buy more tyres Ben !
Do you ??

Benh 25-03-2013 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GrahamH7060 (Post 759761)
Think I might need to buy more tyres Ben !
Do you ??

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Dufty07 30-03-2013 03:18 AM

tyres
 
was thinking of running rubber n additive ......zooooooom.......:D


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